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DK Solos Craglorn
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I am amazied that anyone would have even the slightest understanding what the "best" build was......since there are what...over 1000, 2000?
People need to leave other MMOs at the door and look at this new one and what it has to offer. Maybe YOU come up with a great build, with a broken class, that rocks anyway cause you are good at playing it? This is possible in ESO...not many other games....Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"3 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭no way...as a scroc there is no way
youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
Probably no way for you but not for this guy. Don't judge other people based on your own abilities ( or lack of)
Hah look how fast his ult generates. I thought only DK's could get ultimate that fast!!!!0 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »no way...as a scroc there is no way
youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
Probably no way for you but not for this guy. Don't judge other people based on your own abilities ( or lack of)
Hah look how fast his ult generates. I thought only DK's could get ultimate that fast!!!!
its cuz of the aoe, as soon as he has no adds besides the boss, he will die and hvae no ult1 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »no way...as a scroc there is no way
youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
Probably no way for you but not for this guy. Don't judge other people based on your own abilities ( or lack of)
Hah look how fast his ult generates. I thought only DK's could get ultimate that fast!!!!
its cuz of the aoe, as soon as he has no adds besides the boss, he will die and hvae no ult
But people like to blame DKs for that "super fast ultimate gen" just because of AOE, when we can see its just as fast for everyone spamming impulse, and possibly other things, on a bunch of monsters.
With a nightblade spamming that circular blade throw thing going through craglorn stuff and he was able to use his ultimate quite often too, Warhorn.
Its not exclusive to DK's.Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on May 31, 2014 12:23AM3 -
Therium104✭✭✭alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
Probably no way for you but not for this guy. Don't judge other people based on your own abilities ( or lack of)
he is using surge healing too stay alive, that is a 50% heal for each crit you do, the only way too achieve this is too have npc that can be crit on easily period, the only reason he can do this is because is crit and aoe damage is so high, but as soon as you have no adds your dead i use the same build. as soon as your out of magic or have no crit BIG cirts at that your dead, its not even close too achieving what DK is doing, that is all luck.
Edit: on anther note is too make bosses resistant too crit would instantly solve this issue
Lol. So this is okay because you play the class?
Sorcs solo Craglorn. Nerf!!! Or maybe accept the fact others are better players? Just saying. Right?5 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »no way...as a scroc there is no way
youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
Probably no way for you but not for this guy. Don't judge other people based on your own abilities ( or lack of)
Hah look how fast his ult generates. I thought only DK's could get ultimate that fast!!!!
its cuz of the aoe, as soon as he has no adds besides the boss, he will die and hvae no ult
But people like to blame DKs for that "super fast ultimate gen" just because of AOE, when we can see its just as fast for everyone spamming impulse, and possibly other things, on a bunch of monsters.
With a nightblade spamming that circular blade throw thing going through craglorn stuff and he was able to use his ultimate quite often too, Warhorn.
Its not exclusive to DK's.
the issue is that that one ULT is already really strong, and together with massive aoe you can be unkillable...that is the problem they need too reduce the damage mitigation from that one ult2 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭"All those overpowered sorc skills" you could claim, but its really the light armor and destro staff, once again. Could sorc have done it with Medium/heavy armor and dual wield? hell..... no.....2
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vicNBitis✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Its not exclusive to DK's.
Having two insanely OP ultimates is, however.2 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »"All those overpowered sorc skills" you could claim, but its really the light armor and destro staff, once again. Could sorc have done it with Medium/heavy armor and dual wield? hell..... no.....
well maybe dual blade and medium amour its possible, if they had a high enough crit we could heal nonstop0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where adjusting class related ultimates that need it would be better than nerfing something anothers.Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on May 31, 2014 12:35AM2 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where buffing class related ultimates would be better than nerfing something anothers.
so you would rather people be able too solo content that your not supposed too solo?0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where buffing class related ultimates would be better than nerfing something anothers.
so you would rather people be able too solo content that your not supposed too solo?
Nerf the sorcerer then and he wont be able to solo it either then, right? Even tho sorcerers don't think they need nerfs, tho they apparently do because ONE OF THEM soloed a craglorn dungeon boss.Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on May 31, 2014 12:37AM2 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where buffing class related ultimates would be better than nerfing something anothers.
so you would rather people be able too solo content that your not supposed too solo?
Nerf the sorcerer then and he wont be able to solo it either then, right? Even tho sorcerers don't think they need nerfs, tho they apparently do because ONE OF THEM soloed a craglorn dungeon boss.
again il say this, it was the crit that was enableing that so nerf Crit surge, reduce the healing received too 25% go right ahead it will just stop the heals and then problem solved, however even in the video you see him about too die, and then he says "why cant i get a crit" and then he did which healed him. that effect 1 build that if they stack it that high and get lucky they can solo what looks like a miny boss whooo! the DK soloed what was it 6 Elite Flame Atcros, and his health never drooped bellow 80% that is OP, that dude just got lucky.
AND on another note the scorc had too run around and kite the boss in order too do the DK didntEdited by alexj4596b14_ESO on May 31, 2014 12:59AM1 -
Therium104✭✭✭alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where buffing class related ultimates would be better than nerfing something anothers.
so you would rather people be able too solo content that your not supposed too solo?
Nerf the sorcerer then and he wont be able to solo it either then, right? Even tho sorcerers don't think they need nerfs, tho they apparently do because ONE OF THEM soloed a craglorn dungeon boss.
again il say this, it was the crit that was enableing that so nerf Crit surge, reduce the healing received too 25% go right ahead it will just stop the heals and then problem solved, however even in the video you see him about too die, and then he says "why cant i get a crit" and then he did which healed him. that effect 1 build that if they stack it that high and get lucky they can solo what looks like a miny boss whooo! the DK soloed what was it 6 Elite Flame Atcros, and his health never drooped bellow 80% that is OP, that dude just got lucky.
AND on another note the scorc had too run around and kite the boss in order too do the DK didnt
You are really not processing what is going on. Whether a sorc solo by kiting has no relevance to the fact he did it and according to you snowflakes this is unacceptable. The only problem you have now is that your class is being questioned so you don't like it. So we need to nerf sorcs. What?4 -
vicNBitis✭✭✭If sorcerers had another ultimate like, say, Standard of Might to go with their Storm Atronach there'd probably be a thread about it or twenty.
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alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭Therium104 wrote: »alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Magma armor is for tanking, he used it for tanking. Why is this so shocking. There is even a syntergy morph that party members can use with it to give them a damage shield for 85% of their max HP. Blame the light armor and destro staff that he was able to use it so constantly, not the ultimate.
Standard you can move out of and they are already talking about altering it anyways.
And they're called ultimates for a reason. Perhaps other peoples ultimates just need to be made more ultimate in regards to ultimates? This is where buffing class related ultimates would be better than nerfing something anothers.
so you would rather people be able too solo content that your not supposed too solo?
Nerf the sorcerer then and he wont be able to solo it either then, right? Even tho sorcerers don't think they need nerfs, tho they apparently do because ONE OF THEM soloed a craglorn dungeon boss.
again il say this, it was the crit that was enableing that so nerf Crit surge, reduce the healing received too 25% go right ahead it will just stop the heals and then problem solved, however even in the video you see him about too die, and then he says "why cant i get a crit" and then he did which healed him. that effect 1 build that if they stack it that high and get lucky they can solo what looks like a miny boss whooo! the DK soloed what was it 6 Elite Flame Atcros, and his health never drooped bellow 80% that is OP, that dude just got lucky.
AND on another note the scorc had too run around and kite the boss in order too do the DK didnt
You are really not processing what is going on. Whether a sorc solo by kiting has no relevance to the fact he did it and according to you snowflakes this is unacceptable. The only problem you have now is that your class is being questioned so you don't like it. So we need to nerf sorcs. What?
my point if he wouldnt have gotten that last CRIT then he would have died, but the DK didn't even pass 80%0 -
Singular✭✭✭✭I am amazied that anyone would have even the slightest understanding what the "best" build was......since there are what...over 1000, 2000?
People need to leave other MMOs at the door and look at this new one and what it has to offer. Maybe YOU come up with a great build, with a broken class, that rocks anyway cause you are good at playing it? This is possible in ESO...not many other games....
My build is the best. I laugh at those worse than me and dismiss those better than me for being OP.
So there!War, give me war, give me war.1 -
Bayezid✭✭
And they say Nightblade is underpowered IMO!
If players stopped roleplaying with thier Nightblades then they can probably do what this guy did in the vid.4 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭was his health even going down??????? that is...... that is just pathetic. Why wont ZOS balance these out??? I love this game, iv been playin it nonstop since release, but its weakest point, is clearly BALANCE. This is the kind of crap that ruined the PvP, ZOS needs to stop adding in new content, and FIX THE CURRENT PROBLEMS FIRST. Forget about the justice system, and the dark brother hood, and the thieves guild, this game needs a MAJOR re-balancing first, before it gets any more new stuff. The DK needs to be forced, like everyone else to open themselves up for attack. I noticed all he did(at least in the first vid) was run in the middle, throw down a banner, and block 90% of the time. what kind of crap is that?:/ It needs to be fixed. idk how, but it needs to. A DK needs to be forced to actually ATTACK just like everyone else, not toss down a flag and block the whole timeEdited by Cody on June 1, 2014 4:47AM4 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
Light armor again! But.... no, no.... Just nerf the nightblade instead.
Amazing stamina recovery there too. Nerf Nightblade stamina recovery!!!!Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on June 1, 2014 12:09PM0 -
Officially NERFED! I love how the community in this game is so damn bad they have to complain about EVERYTHING and get it nerfed sooner or later, just pathetic, this nerf not only ruined the build but the class, DK's are still strong but those nerfs hurt us bad... Pathetic...3
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭RageGamerRyan wrote: »Officially NERFED! I love how the community in this game is so damn bad they have to complain about EVERYTHING and get it nerfed sooner or later, just pathetic, this nerf not only ruined the build but the class, DK's are still strong but those nerfs hurt us bad... Pathetic...
What nerf are you talking about? If its Magma armor then I am a pure tank, use it all the time, and even wrote a post about it being able to use a bit to much.
The fixed it a bit in this patch.
And for the record. They are doing balancing as good as they can across the board. STOP looking at only YOUR skills. Its irrelavant. Its almost impossible to balance a game big as this, based on skills, but they are doing a good job with it. Along with listening to us.
And the community in these forums are getting better but yes, I do agree it still has the majority of pure whiners. When they leave, maybe we get a communty.
And btw, the DEVS have listen and even added ideas that comes from these forums, but they, and I am SO glad for this, do not listen to either gamebreaking complaints, or pure drivvel whiners that has no point what so ever.
DKs is a strong class? I am a DK. if that was true, then I REALLY want an overview how to balance the classes.
I do believe the classes are decently balanced. Is how you build and use em, that matters.Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"2 -
RageGamerRyan wrote: »Officially NERFED! I love how the community in this game is so damn bad they have to complain about EVERYTHING and get it nerfed sooner or later, just pathetic, this nerf not only ruined the build but the class, DK's are still strong but those nerfs hurt us bad... Pathetic...
What nerf are you talking about? If its Magma armor then I am a pure tank, use it all the time, and even wrote a post about it being able to use a bit to much.
The fixed it a bit in this patch.
And for the record. They are doing balancing as good as they can across the board. STOP looking at only YOUR skills. Its irrelavant. Its almost impossible to balance a game big as this, based on skills, but they are doing a good job with it. Along with listening to us.
And the community in these forums are getting better but yes, I do agree it still has the majority of pure whiners. When they leave, maybe we get a communty.
And btw, the DEVS have listen and even added ideas that comes from these forums, but they, and I am SO glad for this, do not listen to either gamebreaking complaints, or pure drivvel whiners that has no point what so ever.
DKs is a strong class? I am a DK. if that was true, then I REALLY want an overview how to balance the classes.
I do believe the classes are decently balanced. Is how you build and use em, that matters.
Your ignorance humors me, I wasn't talking about magma armor or the banner nerf, I was talking about siphon and critical hit ulti regen which was nerfed for all classes... It is now almost impossible to solo a mob of 5+ since we barely gain any ulti anymore, DK's are still strong but the survivability of this build is gone out the door. Your entire comment is just contradicting itself so I won't respond to you anymore, the made a huge mistake nerfed ulti regen for all classes, yeah it was the core of an amazing build for DK's but other builds are going to suffer a lot now because of it now.2 -
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✭✭Its like every single DK soloed everything in the game. That 1% is doing it just for a video. I highly doubt people like Procblocked are solofarming. He cant even kill a Boss in the trails. They do it, coz they like to get the very best out of a class to show off the capabilities. Exceptional Players do that kind of stuff for the lulz.
I am DK! I never used that build though. Since its not even fun.
Zenimax is going way too much in the wrong direction. More and more of my guildies are abandoning ESO for all the crappy nerfs. The Ultimate Nerf now is the crown of the ice berg.
Trials with balanced setups are not working anymore. You cant win the DPS race on boss 3 in aetherian archives. Unless you now have even more heavy dps setups containing of top notch DKs and sorcs. We dont do that setups and have been stucked on Boss 3 anyways. But we made progress.
Now we are not able to bring it past 70%. What the hell is so hard to finally buff NB and Temp to an extend of DK/Sorc and adjust the mobs a bit.
You remember the "difficulty slider" for the mobs when craglorn patch hit live. We dont understand anymore what zenimax is doing. Do they even test what they throw at us players?Edited by xMovingTarget on June 3, 2014 9:21PM3 -
Therium104✭✭✭RageGamerRyan wrote: »Preach brotha!
Zenimax is listening to the wrong people. I have friends leaving the game. The forums are the worst possible place to obtain ideas for balance. These forums are by far the most pathetic ever read. The whining and complaining. None of it a proper representation of the majority. I love ESO but looks like everyone is jumping ship for Wildstar. I don't even want to play that game.
The uneccesay shield bash nerf. ... All this other garbage. Means people leave so a few bads can actually win at something. Lol.2 -
ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭LOL Wildstar oh "everyone is jumping ship for Wildstar" really? And what are you doing, clicking your counter as everyone exits then joins up Wildstar? Or are you just assuming to speak on behalf of everyone. Learn the difference from your own opinion to facts. Yes ZOS should fix things before doing tons of nerfs, but if your class relies on 2 ultimates it was definitely a broken class to begin with and needs to be fixed regardless. Unnecessary shield bash? Oh as a Vamp.. I say the unnecessary nerf of bat swarm since very few were abusing it but everyone in Cyrodiil was getting utterly owned from it. Yes you may see it as unnecessary, but many do not. And I say many for certainty with reading the comments, other forums, etc..
Can we add a dislike/disagree button on people's posts please? LOL2
