YES! This happens to me too....no more memory leaks on my end, but...

When I start the game, my textures look great. As I play for a few hours, they slowly begin to degrade to almost nothing...really low settings. I check my video settings, and nothing has changed there...they are all set to high.

But in-game, they look terrible.

It doesn't happen to me after minutes...it happens after a few hours of play.

Come on, Zenimax....fix this issue!

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Either it's a new anti-crash/memory conserving technique (which would imply it's intentional), or it's something going awry with LOD, as @Moonraker surmised.

I don't believe its a conserving memory workaround. At least I HOPE

The textures don't look just "a bit low" - they are totally out of control. My horse looks like a flat meatball. Even the signs in front of craftshops are unrecognizable - basically like 4x4 pixels sized up. Every texture gets blown up like 2000%. I hope its just some lines of code that went terribly kamikaze and can be fixed.

Added a screenshot; thats where I'm usually starting from. Ground textures get muddy, walls as well. Look at the plants in the background; they are only "half-drawn". The horse in the left background has a muddy texture etc pp. 10 minutes later, basically all textures look low res:



Problem occurs on 2012 27'' iMacs (3,1 Mhz i5) with 10.7.5 and 10.9.2/3, running ATI Radeon 6970M 1GB.

Hey Moonraker, hey FurTrader,

happy to have both of you around, appreciated your knowledge and support here and over there at TF already a lot.

Moonraker: Then it might not be the LOD system. I know its effect. Since 1.1.2, some textures stay muddy, even right after login. I login the game, mount my horse and - it looks like a giant blob. I visit a city; half of the buildings/grounds are muddy. No matter how close or far I get: they stay muddy. Look at the flowers/grass in the screenshot above: They are just half drawn/sprinkles. Dungeons: Same issue with textures. This occurs less general right on login, but for sure after some gaming. All player-toons stay crystal sharp, thou. Their horses: not.

Yes, I have textures set to high. Pre-1.1.2 I had very, very rarely crashes in PvE-environments (like: every 2 or 3 hours, or even none). Didn't PvP much, yet. No data on this.

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

See also this thread.

Either it's a new anti-crash/memory conserving technique (which would imply it's intentional), or it's something going awry with LOD, as @Moonraker surmised.

Actually I was referring to the former and it is an intended function. It may also be something different Hard to tell currently but I believe it is related to changes in the LOD management.

Only time I see low res textures is when I approach NPCs, they are low res for a second but I only have a 1GB card. A suggestion, lower the textures to Med but keep up sampling on high and see if it delays or stops it. Also when it happens, try switching to desktop and back or /reloadui. If that fails then switch from high to med and back again.

Out of interest. How much memory does your gfx card have and what type is it? Also hoe much system memory do you have?

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I will add to this thread and say that today I noticed some things in the world got "stuck" in a low res state (i.e. crafting tables and horse). Players looked fine for me.

I'm assuming a log out and back in resets textures back to higher res?

I think that certain textures get loaded later so tend to show low texture. I have always noticed for example, that the Blacksmiths anvil is always low texture for me and horse often is or becomes increasingly so. To restore it you need to reboot the game to drop the memory again.

It's a little different from what others have posted I think which is ground textures and walls. Sometimes it takes the client some time to draw in objects within the bounds of the View Distance. So, if there is some server lag houses don't 'pop' into higher quality with some delay.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Moonraker wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I will add to this thread and say that today I noticed some things in the world got "stuck" in a low res state (i.e. crafting tables and horse). Players looked fine for me.

I'm assuming a log out and back in resets textures back to higher res?

I think that certain textures get loaded later so tend to show low texture. I have always noticed for example, that the Blacksmiths anvil is always low texture for me and horse often is or becomes increasingly so. To restore it you need to reboot the game to drop the memory again.

It's a little different from what others have posted I think which is ground textures and walls. Sometimes it takes the client some time to draw in objects within the bounds of the View Distance. So, if there is some server lag houses don't 'pop' into higher quality with some delay.

Well what I am saying is that the textures of the crafting stations were of much poorer quality my last play session than I have ever seen them. And the textures did not bump up after a few seconds.

I think they need to do some tweaking in a future patch most likely.

Yes, it sounds similar to what I see on those. I just haven;t seen ground textures like some of the screenshots show generally.

Happens to me as well.

Texture issues here as well - horses (and other various things like boxes, cabinets, and backpacks) are all very low rez now. I'm on an iMac as well (see comp specs below), but I did not have this issue before the patch. Horses never looked awesome, but this ghostly white blob that is now my horse is definitely new since the 1.1.2 patch.

A complete logout and quit client > restart will fix things for a bit, but they degrade over time again. At first this was just annoying, but it's starting to affect gameplay now. When the textures get low, I often can no longer see small objects like lorebooks or items I might be tracking for a quest, which means I missing things or can't find what I'm looking for unless I quit/restart.

In regards to previous crashing from memory leak, I have no idea if this related or not. I do seem to be crashing less, but it is still happening. Unless this is new bug, the memory leak crashes seem to be improved, but are definitely NOT completely fixed.

27" imac late 2013
Processor 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4096 MB
Software OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)

Moonraker wrote: »

It may be effecting lower end or older Macs more but bit early to know from reports so far as few give system details.

Thanks for your patience, Moonraker. I'm on a mid 2011 iMac with 16 GB RAM, Ati Radeon HD 6970M (1 GB), i5 3,1 Mhz – one on 1.7.5, one on 1.9.2.

Randay wrote: »

but thats just what my stomache tells me. i think it should be able to programm that the memory gets freed a bit to be able to load more textures.

I have been thinking the same thing.

Randay wrote: »

...i can now finally play for more than 1 hour in cyrodil, maybe 2 befor i have to restart the client...

I look at it as a reminder to get up from my desk and walk around a bit ;-)

Another thing I noticed (I don't know if it will help Zen or not). It's not just the game world that goes blurry. Icons in the UI do as well.

I think the degradation in visuals we are seeing in the mac client over time must be linked to the improved stability that we now have.
As others have said the way the eye of your horse dissolves in to its surrounding grey makes a great marker telling you to log out before actual game play is affected.
As long as things keep improving I will keep playing and with luck in another month or so all this will be just a memory

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

My report on the subject from Cyrodiil.

I was questing in Cyrodiil, ventured into a dungeon, did that and then emerged out into the world again. Textures were stuck extremely low and bad looking (the ground, rocks, trees, sides of structures, horse). The textures never bounced back.

The good news is that I never crashed in cyrodiil and I was there for over an hour. I think the textures getting bad and the memory leak fixes are somehow related.

I hope they are aware and will put further fixes into future patches.

If it's as we suspect then the reason is it has been adjusted from the previous iteration of the client to more aggressively down sample textures to help stabilise the client as lower textures = less memory used. That's simplistic but about it.

There was a feature in place already which did this but guess that it is just being more aggressive to reduce memory usage for stability. I expect if it is too aggressive it can be adjusted back up.