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VR Difficulty change?

  • LonePirate
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    R0M2K wrote: »
    Im Trapped in a ship trying to kill Vicereeve Pelidil (Vr8) and i can barely take him to 70% after deploying everything, ultimate included.

    This is absurd, cant advance nor do anything but sit and wait for the fix.

    Are you able to join a Cyrodiil campaign? That would at least remove you from the ship and you can then a take a wayshrine back to whatever PVE zone you wish.
  • ciannait
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    Sihnfahl wrote: »
    You are assuming they have a QA team. At this point, I'm not sure they do.
    They do. And they're hiring to boot.
    Except that there shouldn't be any updates that don't get tested.
    I believe the issue that happened was that they didn't think it had to be tested. They had assumed that when they told the coder to increase the mob's VP, the coder would just increase the VP. Instead, it appears the coder did a too-free replace that resulted in an unintended boost to everything else.

    My armchair guess is that VP / exp is linked to the mob's strength. ie, if it gives 100VP, it must be a level V10 (or whatever) mob, so adjust the HP and damage output accordingly. And then bumped up the VP without traversing the linked code to verify it didn't auto-scale.

    Again, just a wild-azz guess...
  • Kevaliji
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    My god, solo in VR is pretty much impossible now. vetrank.jpg This isn't from a boss but just standard enemies. I mean really? I don't even have an attack that can do that kind of damage. 1048 damage on a single attack? This isn't a boss!

    To be fair, thats his AoE attack. So you were standing in it, next time dont.
  • KhajiitiLizard
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    Kevaliji wrote: »
    My god, solo in VR is pretty much impossible now. vetrank.jpg This isn't from a boss but just standard enemies. I mean really? I don't even have an attack that can do that kind of damage. 1048 damage on a single attack? This isn't a boss!

    To be fair, thats his AoE attack. So you were standing in it, next time dont.

    It wouldn't have made any difference. In that situation I could not dodge it. Walls to my sides and enemies blocked any means of escape. I posted an image that showed no AoE attacks and I still died in a few seconds. The fix can't come soon enough.
    Edited by KhajiitiLizard on May 23, 2014 8:32PM
  • Letareus
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    Hey there everyone,

    Some VR content and monsters are indeed more difficult after yesterday’s patch, though this change was unintended. We are working on a fix now to revert the difficulty back to what you were familiar with prior to patch 1.1.2, and plan to have this rolled out in the next 24 hours. Thanks for your reports and patience.

    Thank you. Not knowing was the worst part.
  • Slash8915
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    Saw this posted on another thread. Man, what I wouldn't give for this attack in PvP...

    http://oi57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg
  • kirnmalidus
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    Slash8915 wrote: »
    Saw this posted on another thread. Man, what I wouldn't give for this attack in PvP...

    http://oi57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg

    Exactly.
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    Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.

    - @ruze84b14_ESO
  • FunkyBudda
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    Hey there everyone,

    Some VR content and monsters are indeed more difficult after yesterday’s patch, though this change was unintended. We are working on a fix now to revert the difficulty back to what you were familiar with prior to patch 1.1.2, and plan to have this rolled out in the next 24 hours. Thanks for your reports and patience.

    thanks for the update, but as a professional company, you guys really should have better QA team or process in place to test a patch prior going live.



  • Fshober28b14_ESO
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    Yup, there was a big damage increase(and whatever else they did) and now even as a V10 in full legendary owned by things that were at level just the right difficulty level solo. I can't even take 2 normal mobs in Bangkorai without getting owned.



    Edited by Fshober28b14_ESO on May 23, 2014 10:27PM
  • Nate
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Dreads the thought of encountering mobs with one or more healers :o
    Hey there everyone,

    Some VR content and monsters are indeed more difficult after yesterday’s patch, though this change was unintended. We are working on a fix now to revert the difficulty back to what you were familiar with prior to patch 1.1.2, and plan to have this rolled out in the next 24 hours. Thanks for your reports and patience.

    I will now revert back to my other self, the one that isn't constantly nerd raging about this subject. Still not happy(about the game, otherwise I'm friggin extatic today as it's nice out and I got my grades back and they were good). These kinds of mistakes kill games.

    Relax Cory. It'll be alright.
  • YstradClud
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    Hey there everyone,

    Some VR content and monsters are indeed more difficult after yesterday’s patch, though this change was unintended. We are working on a fix now to revert the difficulty back to what you were familiar with prior to patch 1.1.2, and plan to have this rolled out in the next 24 hours. Thanks for your reports and patience.

    Thanks for the reply. Guess I'll wait until the hotfix to finish my quests in the vr9-10 zones.
    |Pascweten| Breton Templar PC NA
    |Ceaulin| Bosmer Templar Xbox NA
  • Blackwidow
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    FunkyBudda wrote: »
    you guys really should have better QA team or process in place to test a patch prior going live.

    QFT.
  • Chem
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    PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEAASSSE do NOT revert the changes. Why should we be able to kill 3-4 groups? VR is the way it SHOULD be NOW! Keep the challenge. People can still solo. Don't let this game get as easy as WoW became.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey guys, just letting you know that this issue has been hotfixed, and VR content has been reverted back to the same difficulty prior to patch 1.1.2.
    Gina Bruno
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  • Blackwidow
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    Thank you @ZOS_GinaBruno! :)
  • Worstluck
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Thanks for the prompt fix!
    Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
    ―Madanach
    Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
    ―Mehrunes Dagon
    Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
    ―Uriel Septim

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  • Pele
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    My god, solo in VR is pretty much impossible now. vetrank.jpg This isn't from a boss but just standard enemies. I mean really? I don't even have an attack that can do that kind of damage. 1048 damage on a single attack? This isn't a boss!

    Ouch. My favorite part of that screenshot are the hints. To paraphrase:
    - Use block and L2P!
    - In case you didn't know, pots help. L2P!
    - BTW, your death just cost you gold in repairs #ForTheLulz

    Edit: Typo
    Edited by Pele on May 24, 2014 1:16AM
  • thebigMuh
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    Hey guys, just letting you know that this issue has been hotfixed, and VR content has been reverted back to the same difficulty prior to patch 1.1.2.

    No it was not.

    Just logged in, VR8 Kagoutis have 5.8k HP, yesterday they had a touch over 4k. Their heavy attacks also hit for ~300 hp through blocking, normal attacks for 150 through blocking.

    I can kill a single one, but a pack of two completely destroys me.

    Try again.

    Ciao, Muh!
    Edited by thebigMuh on May 24, 2014 1:20AM
  • Gremmore
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    Well that was not the evening i planned; I also didn't notice the change sofar, perhaps game needs a restart? Sofar i used about 40 shards today and 40 potions on V6/7 I mean common!! Normally pots are just for V-Dungeons and most of them are now ways to gain shards.... now as many other mentioned running into 2 mobs can be deadly... Specially if one of them has a Bow! My new nightmare mob now as Templar...

    Hope it's fixed fast, saw 2 ppl in guild raging out before they logged off for today and i must admit i felt the same! Only those who were in new content as team of 4 were having time of their lives and are almost lvl 11 with mostly purple rewards... While alll inbetween V2-10 are F@cked!! Nice Patch there!! only favouring the ppl that will never be happy for long...

    hopefully tomorrow will bring some joy back to the game
  • thebigMuh
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    I would be thoroughly amazed if the Hero engine supported changing the stats of persistent, spawned entities on the fly. I guess the changed values only apply to newly spawned instances, not to the ones already around.

    They should give the servers a reboot...

    Ciao, Muh!
  • Chirru
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    As of 9PM EDT on 5/23, we have completed a hotfix on both megaservers that reverted the difficulty of Veteran Rank content (50+ and 50++) to what it was prior to patch 1.1.2. Thank you for your patience as we fixed the issue.
  • YstradClud
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    Hey guys, just letting you know that this issue has been hotfixed, and VR content has been reverted back to the same difficulty prior to patch 1.1.2.

    Cool thanks for the speedy fix.

    |Pascweten| Breton Templar PC NA
    |Ceaulin| Bosmer Templar Xbox NA
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Hey guys, just letting you know that this issue has been hotfixed, and VR content has been reverted back to the same difficulty prior to patch 1.1.2.

    Thank you.

    Now , just need to fix the broke achivs and bitting jabs and i will play again.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • Sakiri
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    Mablung wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    Kiwi wrote: »
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    3 seconds worth of damage

    v3 dk in full custom crafted v3 heavy armor with v3 sword&board and max HP stat, overcharged armor and spell resist

    Is black winter the force choke?

    NPC ability names are foreign to me with no combat log detailing or anything.

    Because if it is, youre supposed to cc break that.

    I believe black winter is the cone frontal attack that comes at you with the hands animation. I have not fought a harvester yet so I could be totally wrong.

    That one hits like a girl. The choke is what hits like a truck.
  • Sakiri
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    Kevaliji wrote: »
    My god, solo in VR is pretty much impossible now. vetrank.jpg This isn't from a boss but just standard enemies. I mean really? I don't even have an attack that can do that kind of damage. 1048 damage on a single attack? This isn't a boss!

    To be fair, thats his AoE attack. So you were standing in it, next time dont.

    It wouldn't have made any difference. In that situation I could not dodge it. Walls to my sides and enemies blocked any means of escape. I posted an image that showed no AoE attacks and I still died in a few seconds. The fix can't come soon enough.

    Dodge roll will push you through a line of npcs blocking your path.
  • edu.journeymanub17_ESO
    I'm still taking hits with 1500+ damage from VR5 trash mobs (skeletal archers to be precise), notice that I'm past softcap on armor and spell resistance (1900+ and 2000+ respectively)

    I still can't beat a trash healer anymore as they heal a lot over my output dps and I can't interrupt them because stamina poll got dry pretty fast trying to tank other stuff and the nerfs on bash.

    When they say:

    "As of 9PM EDT on 5/23, we have completed a hotfix on both megaservers that reverted the difficulty of Veteran Rank content (50+ and 50++) to what it was prior to patch 1.1.2. Thank you for your patience as we fixed the issue."

    I could not do other thing than completely disagree, it's NOT what it was prior to patch 1.1.2, period.
  • Worstluck
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    Yeah I am not 100% they fixed everything, but whatever. I went into a solo dungeon, one that I did with ease a few days ago, and the boss murdered me, over and over again, just had insane HP. My gear was actually better than before and I used the same skills. I did finish a quest that I could not do last night, so some of it is back to normal.
    Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
    ―Madanach
    Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
    ―Mehrunes Dagon
    Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
    ―Uriel Septim

    Daggerfall Covenant
  • Sanspoof
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    Maybe it's just my idea but I'm in eastmarch and some mobs still seem to have more hp than usual.
  • YstradClud
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    Might still be a little out of wack but I'm seeing a definite improvement in the AD vr zones.
    |Pascweten| Breton Templar PC NA
    |Ceaulin| Bosmer Templar Xbox NA
  • captain_awesome
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    Time for some capslock action.

    STILL NOT FIXED

    Stealth attack barely scratches the mobs now, before this patch it was almost a one bomb then a melee to kill the 2 other mobs. Now its a desperate fight to kill 3 mobs, there is no margin for error, and even if you play like Jack Bauer, you can still get owned.

    So yeah, it's not true when you say its reverted. Strange of you to say that when it's clearly not the case.

    Please explain!
    Edited by captain_awesome on May 24, 2014 3:53AM
    Dominion FTW.
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