Vengeance Alliance Lock

aetherix8 · 8:12AM

Should Vengeance be alliance locked?

Gabriel_H · 8:25AM

Yes

Yes, but not yet.

This is still in its testing phase. I'd like to see some fundamental changes before we get to that point. Once there have been more additions and ZOS have more data, I think they should actually reduce the cap from 900 to 360 brining it inline with other campaigns, and have 2 Vengeance. One alliance locked, one open to all.

If player numbers then grow, ZOS can simply increase the cap. IF the numbers grow. I'm not convinced they will at present.

aetherix8 · 9:55AM

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Yes, but not yet.

This is still in its testing phase. I'd like to see some fundamental changes before we get to that point. Once there have been more additions and ZOS have more data, I think they should actually reduce the cap from 900 to 360 brining it inline with other campaigns, and have 2 Vengeance. One alliance locked, one open to all.

If player numbers then grow, ZOS can simply increase the cap. IF the numbers grow. I'm not convinced they will at present.

Two Veng campaigns, one faction-locked and one without the lock, is indeed an interesting proposition. But I'm not sure that bringing population caps to 360 is a good idea, as we would be again in the "map too big and too empty" situation.

Gabriel_H · 10:05AM

Yes

aetherix8 wrote: »

Two Veng campaigns, one faction-locked and one without the lock, is indeed an interesting proposition. But I'm not sure that bringing population caps to 360 is a good idea, as we would be again in the "map too big and too empty" situation.

People are simple creatures. They follow the crowd. Bringing the caps down to 360 initially, will let people see how popular/unpopular is is compared to normal Cyro.

Eldovar · 10:29AM

No

Nope, everyone is constant on repeat how Vengeance is for casuals etc. So keep it casual and keep alliance lock away.

Doesn't matter much anyway cause from reading here and other platforms it seems most people have more than 1 ESO account anyway so it's pointless. Especially since you don't need to grind anything for Vengeance and you can buy a new base game account in a sale for a few euros and start playing Vengeance. People will just relog.

Major_Mangle · 10:36AM

No

I´m not a supporter of Vengeance by itself (even though there are a few things I like about it, like how single target heals has to be aimed on the person you want to heal, aka no smart healing) but for the sake of the topic I´ll respond mainly regarding faction lock itself:

(My take on faction lock goes for any type of faction lock, regardless of campaign)
If it´s the current version of faction lock where you´re locked out for an entire month then absolutely NO (this goes for any type of faction lock generally speaking since I find it to be horrible to begin with). If Vengeance got reworked to become a 7 day campaign then I see less issues (still have issues with faction lock) with having a faction lock. Ideally if you want some kind of middle ground I´d prefer a 1-2 day lock that prevents you from swapping factions, and if you change faction during a campaign duration you lose out on rewards (like transmutes etc). But a complete lock like current Greyhost, absolutely not. It´s awful in its design and prohibits you from playing with more than one group of friends.

aetherix8 · 4:20PM

I rarely see polls so even as this one; 50/50 at 6.10pm.
I was never bothered by the lack of a faction lock while playing RW, although sometimes I wished there was some kind of a safeguard in place preventing players from changing their alliances multiple times per day.
Perhaps if this poll were proposing a shorter duration restriction (24 hours), the result would be different.
But it is interesting to see that faction lock is not as universally preferred as it is sometimes claimed.

Necrotech_Master · 6:31PM

aetherix8 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Yes, but not yet.

This is still in its testing phase. I'd like to see some fundamental changes before we get to that point. Once there have been more additions and ZOS have more data, I think they should actually reduce the cap from 900 to 360 brining it inline with other campaigns, and have 2 Vengeance. One alliance locked, one open to all.

If player numbers then grow, ZOS can simply increase the cap. IF the numbers grow. I'm not convinced they will at present.

Two Veng campaigns, one faction-locked and one without the lock, is indeed an interesting proposition. But I'm not sure that bringing population caps to 360 is a good idea, as we would be again in the "map too big and too empty" situation.

i dont think there would be enough pvp population for 2 vengeances lol

the population caps in veng are already 360/faction which is 3x that of normal cyro camps

as for the OP topic, i dont really care much about the faction locks as i only have AD toons lol

but something that could work is maybe making vengeance a 7 day camp that is faction locked, so it rotates faster

to be honest i think 30 days for the campaign duration is too long, its not even worth it for the transmutes anymore

aetherix8 · 6:38PM

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

aetherix8 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Yes, but not yet.

This is still in its testing phase. I'd like to see some fundamental changes before we get to that point. Once there have been more additions and ZOS have more data, I think they should actually reduce the cap from 900 to 360 brining it inline with other campaigns, and have 2 Vengeance. One alliance locked, one open to all.

If player numbers then grow, ZOS can simply increase the cap. IF the numbers grow. I'm not convinced they will at present.

Two Veng campaigns, one faction-locked and one without the lock, is indeed an interesting proposition. But I'm not sure that bringing population caps to 360 is a good idea, as we would be again in the "map too big and too empty" situation.

i dont think there would be enough pvp population for 2 vengeances lol

the population caps in veng are already 360/faction which is 3x that of normal cyro camps

as for the OP topic, i dont really care much about the faction locks as i only have AD toons lol

but something that could work is maybe making vengeance a 7 day camp that is faction locked, so it rotates faster

to be honest i think 30 days for the campaign duration is too long, its not even worth it for the transmutes anymore

I’m an incurable optimist - I believe Veng can make it to be pop locked, but it would have to be vastly improved first.

The current caps are 300 per faction.

And I hope it remains a 30day campaign, it is simply more engaging and competitive when it’s a month-long contest.

LunaFlora · 6:58PM

No

No, i despise alliance lock.

i want to be able to play Cyrodiil with any character

Orbital78 · 7:42PM

Yes

They need to balance the teams, I'm not sure the best route. Otherwise it will just be PVD like most campaigns at off hours.

Erickson9610 · 7:55PM

No

There should always be at least one Cyrodiil campaign without faction lock.

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