raudfsfolley wrote: »

They are still outside Daggerfall, where the ghosts are. At least they were yesterday. I counted at least 5 different bot trains with no less than 4 bots per a train. Had a heck of a time even getting the ONE HIT needed to do the quests for that area. I'd see the ghost, go towards it and... it was dead before my attack could go off.

Zenimark can say they're "working on it," all they want, but until I stop seeing so many bots flying through the air, tunneling under the ground, and running in trains, I won't believe it. Having a GM come on and announce they are there is like turning on the light in a questionable motel room... the cockroaches just vanish until the lights go off again.

Temporary fix for kill quests: Get a resto staff and put a point into the lowest heal skill. Nine times out of ten, you'll get credit. Downside is you'll feel dead inside knowing you contributed in some small way to organized crime. Interesting trade-off, no?

Cyphron wrote: »

fyendiarb16_ESO wrote: »

But honestly, the game is awesome and I dont know whats worse. A bot stuttering through the cave wall carrying MY Iron or a player sprinting and overtaking me to be the first at the iron node.

1000% this.

What was so awesome about Oblivion and Skyrim was the threatening setting of dungeons and the wilds. You just never knew what was around the next corner and it involved careful planning.

I don't know if the combat options improve, but just having 5 abilities really sux.

Epona222 wrote: »

First off, I do love the game. Just wanted to get that straight.
But when bots are running rampant through a quest area killing all the mobs meaning there is no impediment to doing the quest, you're walking from A to B and then back again, it renders it somewhat meaningless. When you know there should be mobs between you and your objective, but there's a bot-train running them all down. Robbing you of fun, use of tactics, and XP from dealing with mobs between A and B when you're questing.

Here's the thing.

There are trains of bots AND trains of multiboxers doing the same thing in areas. You can kinda tell the difference. Either way they do ruin fun since they just wipe everything out quickly.

I still report every train I see. The bots have disappeared in dungeons (as I have not seen one which is amazing, when I would find them crawling all over dungeons) but now I just go in there for skyshards and the achievement anyway.

But it's normal human behaviour. Can't do one thing, move someplace else. So in essence they were forced onto the surface.

The bot problem here is just how it was in FF14:ARR when it first came out. There were tons who focuses on harvesting crystals mainly and made the prices on the market go insane. Thankfully after constant work from Square Enix, they were really taken down. Most they do now is spam in shouts and tells.

I can't tell people what to do, but honestly, if 'you' quit a game over this, that is kinda sad. There is so much more to do out there. Yes it is frustrating, I've had numerous quests and areas knocked out from bots and multiboxers, but I just moved on and did other things.

ZoS needs to make a way for people to switch shards/instances at a wayshrine. You know those games where you click something near the map and it's a dropdown menu of all the open shards. It's not perfect, but it might help some.

Also, report them. There is an add-on out there that can help with this. Complaining about the bot problem yet not actively reporting them is like complaining about a politician but 'you' never vote. Yes it takes like, 2 minutes out of your time, and I've reported more people than I care to count, but I do it in hopes that they get stopped.

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Here is an add-on that was suggested to me by another forum user.

I got it, and it works wonderfully.

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info181-FastReport.html

If you haven't already, get the addon client used Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/

Then you can search there for FastReport by thelegendaryof

Once you install that in Minion, go into TESO then go to settings. You'll need to set up the report key (I used F5 in the key bindings).

So when you hover over someone, it will save the last name you captured, even if they disappear quickly. Hitting the key you chose for the report will bring up two windows, as shown in the screenshot http://cdn.eso.mmoui.com/preview/pvw554.jpg

Highlight and CTRL + C the information on the left hand window into the report window on the right hand side, then fill in the rest of what you saw, making sure to click from the drop down menu.

Hope this helps!

Epona222 wrote: »

I have reported many many bots, but I don't want to stand around reporting bot after bot. I paid my sub to play, not spend half an hour of my paid time reporting bots. I appreciate that doing so may (and I say may with a degree of doubt) help the situation, but after reporting so many and seeing no reduction. it gets a bit disheartening.

Who says there is no reduction? You do realize a report doesn't automatically ban them, right? There are protocols to look into things to make sure.

I've seen days with no bots, and days with tons. I guess since I've played MMOs since 2001 I'm a bit more jaded. I don't let one little thing ruin my fun. I've been through the FF14 bot fiasco (which was just as bad as here with many innocents being caught in a net, banned for over 2 weeks etc) so I know things start getting ironed out after time.

Please don't get me wrong, I dislike bots too. But I also won't lose sleep or let it ruin my enjoyment of such a lore rich game.

It's funny because when the bot thing started everyone was demanding that GM's come online and ban them. What did ZoS do? They sent GM's online to those locations and banned them. What are they doing now? Same thing + more.

You got what you wanted, and it was a temporary fix. They're working on a more permanent solution. It's not just a simple "On/Off" button to fix this.

There is one out of the box solution, that sprung to mind yesterday

Because the goldfarmers will always go for the easiest and most lazy way to earn gold.

Put something in the game that normal players do not need, but sells for a lot to the vendor,
That way the bots will all go for it, normal players will not find it anywhere and still not miss it.

And then put all the bots who harvest said material in a few quarantine zones, so no one can see them.

That balances out the whole game, the goldsellers are happy and so are we, the normal players.

I recently had some level 7 and 10 players join our guild and they did not know how to get iron, when i started playing in march the iron nodes were everywhere.

So maybe it is time to think outside the box :-)

I have to ask. Is this a bigger issue on the US servers than the EU ones ? Personally I hardly ever see bot's. I have seen some but not anywhere near "the sky is falling" quantities that are being mentioned here by others.

YourNameHere wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I have reported many many bots, but I don't want to stand around reporting bot after bot. I paid my sub to play, not spend half an hour of my paid time reporting bots. I appreciate that doing so may (and I say may with a degree of doubt) help the situation, but after reporting so many and seeing no reduction. it gets a bit disheartening.

Who says there is no reduction? You do realize a report doesn't automatically ban them, right? There are protocols to look into things to make sure.

I've seen days with no bots, and days with tons. I guess since I've played MMOs since 2001 I'm a bit more jaded. I don't let one little thing ruin my fun. I've been through the FF14 bot fiasco (which was just as bad as here with many innocents being caught in a net, banned for over 2 weeks etc) so I know things start getting ironed out after time.

Please don't get me wrong, I dislike bots too. But I also won't lose sleep or let it ruin my enjoyment of such a lore rich game.

Yeah men, but...

Tons, an i mean tons of bots harvesting (and now in dungeons again) (even at vr levels), this ruins game experience...

plus...half of the *** skills in the game bugged totally or in part....

plus... rush to throw new content while soooo much bugs still out there....

I really want to stick to it, but right now its pointles... maybe wen they release the console version....
If they dont close this beta then.... XD

Lucifah wrote: »

Communication could make a difference. But there's none to speak of.

The main issue is that we see lots of bots and only half-arsed measures to tackle them, at best. We do not know what's really going on. ZOS, please do enlighten us.

(If I missed official announcements, which are less than two weeks old AND contain more than the usual blah blah, do share! I'd really love to stand corrected on this one!)

Exactly, more and more people are saying the same thing - we can live with the bugs, we can even live with the bots, we can not live with the stone wall of silence and no evidence or feedback that anything we have been asked to do (reporting?) is having any affect.

Perhaps Zenimax isn't saying what they are doing to take care of the bots because these forums are public (even if you can't post you can still read them). Botters could see what Zenimax is doing and change accordingly. If Zenimax keeps it secret the bots won't know what to do. Though if Zenimax just took the game down for maintenance for a few weeks perhaps the bots would leave. I wouldn't mind not being able to play for a few weeks if it meant no more bots.

Kyle_Roberts wrote: »

It's still here. sigh... It spams the forums 24-7 with attention seeking posts about bots and about how it's quitting, but still it continues to troll and attention seek on the forums...? has it nothing better to do with it's life?
anyway, seeing as it's looking for "lols" and "agrees" I'll leave it an agree and hope it makes it's day, enjoy.

I dunno. just like I don't know if you have anything better to do with your life than insult other posters.

@j.frank.nicholsb14_ESO They can't report it - because they got nothing to report, they overwhelmed by bots, and they don't have a slightest idea, what to do about it.

ThatArgonianGuy wrote: »

Perhaps Zenimax isn't saying what they are doing to take care of the bots because these forums are public (even if you can't post you can still read them). Botters could see what Zenimax is doing and change accordingly. If Zenimax keeps it secret the bots won't know what to do. Though if Zenimax just took the game down for maintenance for a few weeks perhaps the bots would leave. I wouldn't mind not being able to play for a few weeks if it meant no more bots.

The thing is that they do not need to give specifics on what they are doing to combat bots. I don't think anyone would want that. Xenimax should not remain silent, however. To bolster their customer's confidence for the company, they should give an announcement like they did in April about banning X number of bots.

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

Wait. There's bots? In the freaking game?

Why have there been no posts about this???

They are busy with QQ about Vet Content, solo quests and armor decay.

shaiten wrote: »

resources vanish before your eyes because there are bots under the ground looting them before you can

still trying to figure out how people know bots are underground doing this ... maybe they are just invisible

Sometimes if you look down, you find a name included.

Reporting them has become harder now too as the speedbots that traverse through all manner of ground, rock outcrops, air, and do disappear are too quick for me to get a screenshot for the name.

Before you say to use "F" realize that even that has become more difficult, as per another thread, due to "targeting" issues. Although you can get plenty of traveling traders and critters names to show from leagues around.

I also am very sure that there are no names whatsoever that are visible in any screenshots to protect the innocent real player that may actually get a short notice in chat and to protect the gold farmers from shame (a program can feel shame?).