Taarente wrote: »

Even just doing a daily imperial city quest will get you over 100 tel var from killing a few mobs. So I go in to do an ic daily for a siege of cyrodiil merit then i have to run back to a sewer exit where some ganker is waiting and i get killed? Which part of that is fun gameplay?

the cat and mouse thats a big part of the fun in IC , you want an quick in and out do quest then die to some add go to base and be done if telvar dont matter/aint the reason your there why would it be so hard to do ?????

spartaxoxo wrote: »

If someone is farming, they obviously shouldn't be able to just queue out. That's been lame and needed a fix.

But you can get 100 Telvar extremely easily. It's a low enough number that someone who hasn't been farming Telvar can't get out either just because they defended themselves. There are things like fishing achievements or keys they may want to turn in.

Something like 500-1000 Telvar would still prevent farming abuse without requiring death taxis for people who are there for non-farming purposes. I guess death taxis aren't the worst thing in the world if you don't have much Telvar to speak of anyway. But I'd kind of preferred people who were purposely trying to die wouldn't run into me on the rare occasion I'm actually playing IC.

I agree. The port out limit should be 1000.

Most of us who do IC daily run one quest then port to Cyro for PvP. It's generally the people farming tel var that abuse the ability to port out to cyro.

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Taarente wrote: »

Even just doing a daily imperial city quest will get you over 100 tel var from killing a few mobs. So I go in to do an ic daily for a siege of cyrodiil merit then i have to run back to a sewer exit where some ganker is waiting and i get killed? Which part of that is fun gameplay?

the cat and mouse thats a big part of the fun in IC , you want an quick in and out do quest then die to some add go to base and be done if telvar dont matter/aint the reason your there why would it be so hard to do ?????

Cat and mouse is fine. Is there some game breaking we’re solving with this? Otherwise it’s just annoyance for the sake of being annoying.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

imPDA wrote: »

Taarente wrote: »

Even just doing a daily imperial city quest will get you over 100 tel var from killing a few mobs. So I go in to do an ic daily for a siege of cyrodiil merit then i have to run back to a sewer exit where some ganker is waiting and i get killed? Which part of that is fun gameplay?

Why EVERY person is so pessimistic in this thread? Imagine you going to sewers exit and killing ganker because you have decent gear, awareness of situation and detect pots ready, and gaining additional 5k from them lol. It is fun gameplay, sorry for you it is different on your side.

Because the current tv limit forces people into high risk, high time consuming activity for low reward.

Good games have low reward activities also come with low risk. But encourage players to take on riskier plays for higher rewards. The higher the risk, the higher the reward. The lower the risk, the lower the reward.

Telling people who are only interested in a low reward, very quick activity that they need to be fodder isn't going to make them positive about IC. It's just going to make them not bother with the mode or bypass the force mechanicism by purposefully dying. And a player that is purposely dying can have negative impacts on unrelated people.

I would suggest replacing IC quests with something like "kill X people", "take district N", "kill boss S" (I genuinely have no idea what all quests are, I have finished only few of them in IC, but all of them was something like "free these people", "burn sieges there" and other slop), then it will be interesting for PvP players and will prevent PvE players from appearing in IC and doing these low reward quests.

In general, entire location is high risk, so if you want low risk low reward out of it, it is not the best location to go. You will receive reward for the quest tho, so this is your "low risk low reward" part of IC experience, you can't fail quest if you die, everything on top of it - a bonus. If you manage to kill mobs and farm TV, well - they are all yours. If you expect low risk low reward - you can also try to farm in sewers, you will hardly meet anyone there.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We’ll touch base with teams to get some answers.

@ZOS_Kevin, just seeing if you have any answers yet.

imPDA wrote: »

I would suggest replacing IC quests with something like "kill X people", "take district N", "kill boss S" (I genuinely have no idea what all quests are, I have finished only few of them in IC, but all of them was something like "free these people", "burn sieges there" and other slop), then it will be interesting for PvP players and will prevent PvE players from appearing in IC and doing these low reward quests.

PvE players appears there and do quests mostly in event time. And main rewards for this quests are event tickets, not tel var or what is given in boxes.
So no matter what quests will be like, PvE players still will have to do them to get all tickets (trade bars after update).