lillybit wrote: »

Trifectas used to get the skins and people complained about it being too much so the were moved to vet completion. This is proof that they really can't please everyone.

A portion of players who don't interact with high-end content are happy with the lackluster rewards just so they won't feel like missing out, ZOS should find a way to get feedback from players who are actually tackling trifectas similarly to what they did with the last Vengeance campaign.

I for one think the endgame community is so small exactly due to how hollow the incentive is, getting a mere title after a trifecta feels like a puny prize, I only do them exclusively because the content is actually really fun, the rewards unfortunately do not reflect that.

Now just imagine if every challenger/trifecta gave you cool cosmetics themed after the content they're tied to, you'd definitely have a major shift in players actually getting interested on high-end content and investing more time in the game, this would build a much healthier environment for ESO.

I never needed the high-end rewards for trifectas. The reward was a title and simply being able to do it with my friends.

I was a huge supporter of making the "premium" reward (e.g. personalities and skill styles) available to lower-tier clears. A personality is something that could be useful to someone who wants to roleplay and not necessarily for an endgame PvE thing. Why should something that's useful for one playstyle be gatekept behind another? That's like saying that you'll give an über gear set to someone who writes the best backstory for their local shopkeeper.

Skins modelled after the dungeon enemies I feel are more appropriate for the Challenger achieve. There's little reason to wear most of the dungeon skins in any world other than to brag about your clear (besides a few specific ones like the Malatar one), so making that a higher-tier reward makes sense.

But at the end of the day, the most fun I have in this game is being able to go into a new dungeon blind and puzzle out the mechanics with my dungeon friend group. So... well, 2026's not looking good for me.

I always wanted to give more feedback about better titles for group content, so this thread seems perfect for it

1. I like that skins are for veteran completions, but if skins and personalities were moved for Challenger completions, I would like that as well. Like in older dungeons, so there is a reason to get Speed, Hard Mode, No death achievements done.
In new dungeons, skins come from regular veteran clears, and it's either do Hard Mode or trifecta if you want some extra titles.
I am ok with adding even more cosmetics for dungeons/trials. As for trials specifically, Hard Mode can have some basic mount reward; Trifecta would unlock extra effects to that mount; list of different achievements in addition to Trifecta would unlock even better variant of the mount (such as the wolf with day/night variants from upcoming Battle Pass).

2. Please, make more titles and make some of them sound better (even as option, in case somebody likes their original version). There are lot of achievements with nice names, which grant no titles. And there are some titles which sound super boring or weird
What is even "Foundry's Foil" or "Coral Caretaker" or "Moth Trusted" or "Curator's Champion" or "Earthen Root Avenger"?..
Make that something like "Overseer" or "Demolitionist", "of Gryphon blood" or "the Wild" or "Gryphon Master" or "Gryphon Rider", "Scroll Keeper" or "Keeper of the Scroll", "Mightier than Sword" or "with Ink in her/his veins", "Avenger" - and I would find a use for those

Also, I would prefer to have selection of additional versions of even more dungeon/trial titles:

"Chaos Disciple" instead of "Bedlam's Disciple"
"Tormentor" (as short of "Telvanni Tormentor") instead of "Scourge of Sunnar"
"Inflammable" instead of "Weaver's bane"
"Battlescribe" instead of "Scribe Savior"
"Archdruid" instead of "Earthen Root Champion"
"the Undying" instead of "Fist of Tava"
"Relentless" instead of "Subterranian Smasher"
"Unsinged" or "Keeper of Knowledge" instead of "Ardent Bibliophile"
"Flame Dancer" instead of "Flamechaser"
"Vampire hunter" instead of "Bane of Thorns"
"Wicked" instead of "Storm Foe"
"Grave Robber" instead of "Bonecaller's bane"
"Drunk on Power" instead of "Hollowfang Exsanguinator"
"Nature's Wrath" instead of "Z'en's Redeemer"
"Cold-blooded" instead of "Frozen Treasure Seeker"
"Hircine's Hound" instead of "Hircine's Champion"
"Bonecaller" instead of "Blackmarrow's Bane"
"The Dark Heart" or "Twilight Cantor" instead of "Dro-m'Athra Destroyer"
"Perfectionist" instead of "Welkynar Liberator"
"Soul Savior" instead of "Xalvakka's Scourge"
"Herald of Change" instead of "Daedric Bane"
"Unsinkable" instead of "Swashbuckler Supreme"
"Master Marine" or "Corsair" instead of "Dreadsails' Scourge"
"Victorious" or "The Unbroken" instead of "Cista breaker"

Examples of dungeons achievement names which would be awesome titles:

"Rhytmic Genius", "Temple Hero"
"Minimalist", "Soul Rancher", "Soulbinder" (as shorter variant of achievement "Soulbinder Subordinate Slayer"), "Stone Breaker"
"Pack Hunter"
"Vault Guardian", "Legend" (as shorter variant of "Salvation's legend"), "Master of Fate" (as variant of "Fate's Master"), "Keeper of the Keys"
"Aggressive Arborist", "Gate Crusher", "Respects the Dead" (as variant of "Respect for the Dead")
"Can't catch me!"
"Big Bad Wolf", "Old Fashioned"
"Eye of the Storm", "Hex-Proof"
"Garden Master", "Friend of the Trees"
"Vault Cracker", "Purified", "Ice Breaker"
"Head of the Pack", "Apex Predator", "Mist Walker"
"Mountain God"
"Artisan of Pain", "Oathbreaker"
"Beacon in the Night", "Exterminator", "Matador" (as short version of "Haj Mota Matador"), "Fears no Darkness", "Embraced the Shadow"
"Darklight Dancer"

Examples of trials achievement names which would be awesome titles:

"Faster than Flames"
"Fire Walker"
"Power House", "Terminator" (short version of "Terminal Terminator"), "Machine" (short version of "Well-Oiled Machine")
"Stormchaser", "Faster than Lightning"
"Voice of Clarity"