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Shield bashed to death.
Tripp3r
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Ok, so i never make rant threads, i actually usually make fun of those who do, but i spose there's a first time for everything so here i go.
Iv'e been optimistic about this game since the start, iv'e put up with a fair few things.
but in this case i want to atleast get my opinion out there.
I'd say about 90% of the time i die in cyradiil it's me being killed in say.. idk 10-13 seconds maybe less by some dude who literally charges at me, and shield bashes me to death, i mean it sounds stupid but there's no honor in this.. it's literally a skill-less kill, i mean yeah i'm a nightblade, i spend most of my time poping out of the shadows and killing people before they get a chance to do anything either.. but i mean atleast i have a variety of abilities i need to use in quick succession in order for me to simply stay alive, these dudes are dragonknights most of the time and they just charge and shield bash, dying isn't fun, and i guess no one would like it, but this isn't fun to the point where i'm actually getting frustrated and logging off... i'm not going to do anything drastic like threaten to cancel my subscription if it isn't fixed or something, but idk.. i just don't like it, it's an annoyance... it's bringing my fun train to a rocky halt.
no more fun choo choo for me.
So yeah, thanks for reading my rant, have at me.
TL;DR
So basically i wanted to make 3 points here.
1) If you're running around shield bashing people to death, know that you're not playing with any skill, or honor if that comes into play anywhere, and that i have no respect for you as a fellow player.
2) i think that something does need to be done here i don't have a clue as to what, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels similar to the way i do.
3) if you feel the same way feel free to rant below, but don't get too out of control yeah?
Iv'e been optimistic about this game since the start, iv'e put up with a fair few things.
but in this case i want to atleast get my opinion out there.
I'd say about 90% of the time i die in cyradiil it's me being killed in say.. idk 10-13 seconds maybe less by some dude who literally charges at me, and shield bashes me to death, i mean it sounds stupid but there's no honor in this.. it's literally a skill-less kill, i mean yeah i'm a nightblade, i spend most of my time poping out of the shadows and killing people before they get a chance to do anything either.. but i mean atleast i have a variety of abilities i need to use in quick succession in order for me to simply stay alive, these dudes are dragonknights most of the time and they just charge and shield bash, dying isn't fun, and i guess no one would like it, but this isn't fun to the point where i'm actually getting frustrated and logging off... i'm not going to do anything drastic like threaten to cancel my subscription if it isn't fixed or something, but idk.. i just don't like it, it's an annoyance... it's bringing my fun train to a rocky halt.
no more fun choo choo for me.
So yeah, thanks for reading my rant, have at me.
TL;DR
So basically i wanted to make 3 points here.
1) If you're running around shield bashing people to death, know that you're not playing with any skill, or honor if that comes into play anywhere, and that i have no respect for you as a fellow player.
2) i think that something does need to be done here i don't have a clue as to what, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels similar to the way i do.
3) if you feel the same way feel free to rant below, but don't get too out of control yeah?
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Seroczynski✭✭✭It's getting changed in v1.1.1“To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.” ― Homer J. Simpson3 -
p.hurst1b16_ESO✭✭✭OP.
Lol.
Stealth stunlocker gets caught out and stunlocked !
Result is QQ on forum !
Welcome to the great tradition of "rogue" style pvp QQ in action since the dawn of MMO time.
<Enigmatic Name> Is poaching new guild members again ! Apply on our webby with your CV and proof of identity and we can arrange an interview with a panel of our officers.5 -
Shillen✭✭✭These guys are dragonknights most of the time? Any class can do it. Why even bring that up?
As Seroczynski said it's getting changed. It's been changed on the PTS for weeks now but they still haven't pushed the patch live.Edited by Shillen on May 15, 2014 12:15PMPlease LOL my comments. I'm an aspiring comedian.0 -
Affrayer✭✭✭Using bash jewelry combined with the sword and shield passive deadly bash, players can get bash to cost little stamina, as low as 50 and under, and do anywhere from 200-400 damage per bash.
It IS overpowered, and from what I hear it's getting a damage reduction. something to do with the jewelry.Edited by Affrayer on May 15, 2014 1:19PMPffffff2 -
...i mean yeah i'm a nightblade, i spend most of my time poping out of the shadows and killing people before they get a chance to do anything either.. but i mean atleast i have a variety of abilities i need to use in quick succession...
So what your saying is that the tables get turned and now its cheap and unskillful? If DK had another skill they spammed just like every other class and did the same thing to kill you it would STILL be cheap and unskillful. Personally Bolt escape is much more of a problem but you learn to deal with it.
Just a spoonful of moon sugar helps the medicine go down.2 -
zeuseason✭✭✭I think it's fumy too, but you can literally build a character around shield bash and be very effective. To each their own I say!
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PVPers in WOW do it's their currency for phat lewt.Biggc49042 wrote: »honor? dude its a video game who speaks of honor in a video game...
Edited by KerinKor on May 15, 2014 12:18PM0 -
BergisMacBride✭✭✭✭✭On PTS, they've decreased the stamina cost reduction on the passive for bashing, so you should see less of this after the big patch.1 -
Aci✭✭✭This is a typical example where things should be fixed for pvp but maybe not touched for pve?
Im a fan of some potential mechanic that skills would work differently in pve and pvp so devs can fix the pvp part of it without hurting the pve one without reason.
Just imagine it would show 2 different tooltips: One for pvp and one for pve.
Edited by Aci on May 15, 2014 12:19PM2 -
Affrayer✭✭✭If someone is bashing you to death you need to kite them and switch to ranged combat.Pffffff2
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dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Any class can use shield and do that. Truthfully any class with a spamable CC that gets the drop on another player can simply spam that CC until the player is dead. The issue with shield is the low stamina cost, which is getting changed in 1.1. the real overall issue is no diminishing returns on any CC1
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Skirmish840✭✭✭Hmmm.... I'm a dragon night, a level 20 one and I'm stupid enough to run into the middle of a bunch of vets and die, what amazes me the most is it isn't the NB's I have the most trouble with, it's the Sorcs, one spell and I'm felled, I'd love to know how to get my spell resistance up to point where it actually resists something o.0
If I shield bash and I do, it's to gain an advantage on my target, I charge in with a bash then hit my resistance, if I'm still breathing I'll switch to damage mode and whack for my life, most of the time I'm not alive lol
I agree, continually shield bashing is um... lame....
But so is being killed by one freaking spell
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Shillen✭✭✭This is a typical example where things should be fixed for pvp but maybe not touched for pve?
Im a fan of some potential mechanic that skills would work differently in pve and pvp so devs can fix the pvp part of it without hurting the pve one without reason.
Just imagine it would show 2 different tooltips: One for pvp and one for pve.
No, as someone with a shield bashing character, it is completely broken and OP in PvE as well.Please LOL my comments. I'm an aspiring comedian.0 -
Shanna✭✭✭This is a typical example where things should be fixed for pvp but maybe not touched for pve?
Im a fan of some potential mechanic that skills would work differently in pve and pvp so devs can fix the pvp part of it without hurting the pve one without reason.
Just imagine it would show 2 different tooltips: One for pvp and one for pve.
This would be great. My alt is a DK, and it's my first time trying to play a tank build. I might have given up already (from dying too often) if I wasn't able to use the bash tactic on npc's.
This is all part of the game.0 -
SaibotLiu✭✭✭✭So this guy probably spends the majority of his pvp life hiding in the bushes, waiting for someone to run by on a horse so he can jump and smack them to death in complete suprise, with little to no risk, then complains because someone smashes him in the face with a shield, and says they have no honor.
I play a nightblade, and I hate DK, and I often...OFTEN jump people on horses and gleefully kill them. Theres no honor in any PVP kill. First thing I learned in this game in particular, if you try to play with some class, you're an idiot. Personally I dont like being an idiot, which is why I also use a shield and bash people in the face, after I knock them off their horse.
Carry on.
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wretch200✭✭✭I think this is a perfectly valid statement, and obviously the people that have a problem with this forum are the people who are in fact Dragonknights who are Raging about losing their only deadly ability (Which isnt even a class ability might i add) besides Standard of Might. What are you gonna do now? Whip me to death? Honestly, get over it. Youre meant to be a tank not a freaking Juggernaut of unthinkable destruction.0 -
Shillen✭✭✭I think this is a perfectly valid statement, and obviously the people that have a problem with this forum are the people who are in fact Dragonknights who are Raging about losing their only deadly ability (Which isnt even a class ability might i add) besides Standard of Might. What are you gonna do now? Whip me to death? Honestly, get over it. Youre meant to be a tank not a freaking Juggernaut of unthinkable destruction.
Since when are dragonknights meant to be a tank?
Please LOL my comments. I'm an aspiring comedian.1 -
Honestly, get over it. Youre meant to be a tank not a freaking Juggernaut of unthinkable destruction. Sooo what your saying is we are suppose to be a tank.. aka eveyones whipping boy chars to feed your pvp rank? Also in your own words "What are you gonna do now? Whip me to death?" That sums it up exactly. Once another skill is given to DK or any other class for that matter that someone uses for his / her advantage its OP now and let the QQ begin.
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Tell me the last time you've seen any other class 1v10 in pvp. Please. PLEEEEAASE tell me. Thx for understanding.Since when are dragonknights meant to be a tank?
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Mephos✭✭✭shield bash itself is NOT a problem. actually the dmg is decent (with rings etc. it gets really high, but you can scale other skills as well)
the problem is that you BLOCK at the same time while doing an insane amount of DPS.
Blocking makes you immun to CC
Blocking reduces your incoming dmg extremly
you can even increase your movementspeed while blocking to make its last flaws go away.
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Tripp3r✭✭✭
My class has one stun and it's my ultimate.p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »OP.
Lol.
Stealth stunlocker gets caught out and stunlocked !
Result is QQ on forum !
Welcome to the great tradition of "rogue" style pvp QQ in action since the dawn of MMO time.
I'm aware of that, but as many people know dragonknights are pretty good at locking things down at the moment, i spose i just wanted to emphasize the point.These guys are dragonknights most of the time? Any class can do it. Why even bring that up?
well, excuse me for respecting my fellow players when they kill me and not just saying "NAH HE KILLED ME F*** Y*** M**"Biggc49042 wrote: »honor? dude its a video game who speaks of honor in a video game...
the tables haven't been turned really, atleast when i pop out of the shadows most of the time people can run away and try to counter me, most of the time succeeding.Gornt_Grimreaver wrote: »...i mean yeah i'm a nightblade, i spend most of my time poping out of the shadows and killing people before they get a chance to do anything either.. but i mean atleast i have a variety of abilities i need to use in quick succession...
So what your saying is that the tables get turned and now its cheap and unskillful? If DK had another skill they spammed just like every other class and did the same thing to kill you it would STILL be cheap and unskillful. Personally Bolt escape is much more of a problem but you learn to deal with it.
when these shield bashers do it i'm stun locked the entire time from the beginning of combat until the end with absolutely no option what so ever to get out of it.
i'd rather not deal with an ability that ends up costing people 50 stamina and dealing 400-500 damage while stunning them the entire time.
Bolt escape is a blink, it's not really hurting anyone to the point this is, maybe you should deal with it.
I agree with you man, each to their own, i'm really trying not to seem like i'm whining and qqing but yeah... i figure it's good people have found this and congrats on them doing so, but it is as it stands a little over powered, as vampires were, so it needs tweaking, i'm not trying to say it should be removed entirely.I think it's fumy too, but you can literally build a character around shield bash and be very effective. To each their own I say!
On a side note, it is getting nerfed in 1.1
You can't do anything, you're stunned the entire time, you can't even potion.If someone is bashing you to death you need to kite them and switch to ranged combat.
i'm not making a threat, what gave you that impression?This threat is priceless.
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wretch200✭✭✭Btw, its wouldnt be hard to balance the game if diminishing returns/cooldowns were set into place. It would remove a lot of headache for devs0
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WingZer0✭Dragonknights were designed to be a tank and/or a 'freaking Juggernaut of unthinkable fire destruction'. So many possibilities
Edited by WingZer0 on May 15, 2014 12:33PM0 -
Axewaffle✭✭✭I think this is a perfectly valid statement, and obviously the people that have a problem with this forum are the people who are in fact Dragonknights who are Raging about losing their only deadly ability (Which isnt even a class ability might i add) besides Standard of Might. What are you gonna do now? Whip me to death? Honestly, get over it. Youre meant to be a tank not a freaking Juggernaut of unthinkable destruction.
Since when are dragonknights meant to be a tank?
Go into cyrodil, and watch a dragonknight charge some random person in a zerg, shield bash them to death activate his coldowns, and walk out at a leisurely pace while the rest of his team catches up to him... Full heavy armor, shield and dk cooldowns in pvp is fine... but coupled with ungodly dps with shield bash, just makes it stupid.0
