So Excited for Subclassing!!

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe · April 29

I am looking forward to sub classing like nothing I've ever looked forward to before in my 8 years playing. And the new heavy attack mythic!! So many of my friends will be able to hit the damage thresholds needed for smooth "endgame" comps. As a raid lead, I'm going to be thrilled to see many more people coming into trials and trifectas. Thank you most sincerely, Zos!

cmetzger93 · April 30

Agreed. A lot of doom and gloom on the forums about it but I am super excited!

SilverBride · April 30

This will ruin my Characters' identities and I will not participate in it.

NoSoup · April 30

SilverBride wrote: »

This will ruin my Characters' identities and I will not participate in it.

Well thats the great thing about it, you don't have to if you don't want to.....

SilverBride · April 30

NoSoup wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

This will ruin my Characters' identities and I will not participate in it.

Well thats the great thing about it, you don't have to if you don't want to.....

My no pet Sorcerer is being changed for this, and I have to start using pets on her (which I won't) or subclass (which I won't). I no longer have the option to just play her like I have for the past 10 years.

SpiritKitten · April 30

SilverBride wrote: »

This will ruin my Characters' identities and I will not participate in it.

So here is the unfortunate truth. ESO is the only realistic-looking MMO right now, which is the only kind I want to play. So as I have no choice, I will adapt with a new build and change my playstyle. You also must either adapt to the devs constantly changing the game, or play something else. You are still here after AWA and all the rest. Just adapt. Buddha says the only constant in life is change.

Daoin · April 30

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

This will ruin my Characters' identities and I will not participate in it.

So here is the unfortunate truth. ESO is the only realistic-looking MMO right now, which is the only kind I want to play. So as I have no choice, I will adapt with a new build and change my playstyle. You also must either adapt to the devs constantly changing the game, or play something else. You are still here after AWA and all the rest. Just adapt. Buddha says the only constant in life is change.

Buddha also says: restrain your mind from subclassing. He who is slow in doing good, his mind delights in subclassing. Should a person commit subclassing, let him not do it again and again. Let him not find pleasure therein, for painful is the accumulation of subclassing and identity theft

SilverBride · April 30

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

SpiritKitten · April 30

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

xylena_lazarow · April 30

Hell yeah I've already got two different tri class abomination Streak DKs ready to go for PvP.

Erickson9610 · April 30

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

SilverBride · April 30

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

I will move on before I do that.

SpiritKitten · April 30

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

I'm talking about soloing....world bosses, group dungeons, DLC public dungeons, etc...

SpiritKitten · April 30

SilverBride wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

I will move on before I do that.

Okay but if you change your mind no one will fault you.

Erickson9610 · April 30

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

I'm talking about soloing....world bosses, group dungeons, DLC public dungeons, etc...

Subclassing isn't required for that and it never will be.

Grega · April 30

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe wrote: »

I am looking forward to sub classing like nothing I've ever looked forward to before in my 8 years playing. And the new heavy attack mythic!! So many of my friends will be able to hit the damage thresholds needed for smooth "endgame" comps. As a raid lead, I'm going to be thrilled to see many more people coming into trials and trifectas. Thank you most sincerely, Zos!

Huh. I foresee opposite.

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe · April 30

I expect the doom and gloom on the forums, but I hope Zos continues with this direction. It may well save the game. More accessibility has been badly needed for some time.

wabajaa · April 30

Same. However I was a bit disappointed. I was expecting all 21 class skill lines in one character when I heard the news.

Giraffon · April 30

I still have not forgiven ZOS for AWA, but subclassing I can live with because it's optional for the players. I do expect some early PVP to be popcorn worthy events though with a lot of silly builds on showcase. It will be interesting to see what people come up with.

Not looking forward to the nerfs/balancing that will follow though.

SpiritKitten · April 30

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

I'm talking about soloing....world bosses, group dungeons, DLC public dungeons, etc...

Subclassing isn't required for that and it never will be.

Except they are nerfing the pure classes, so in order to have the same power as before (or more), subclassing is not optional. Look what nerfs they have already done on PTS.

Erickson9610 · April 30

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

I'm talking about soloing....world bosses, group dungeons, DLC public dungeons, etc...

Subclassing isn't required for that and it never will be.

Except they are nerfing the pure classes, so in order to have the same power as before (or more), subclassing is not optional. Look what nerfs they have already done on PTS.

Nerfs happen all the time, even way before Subclassing was in the works. Our abilities were nerfed and we got around just fine.

Heronisan · April 30

This wont help the players struggling now, try doing vet SCP first boss which requires like zero dps in a pug, the players struggling with damage these days, are also the ones struggling with mechanics, some extra dps wont help them.

And if we get a power creep now, to help these players skip mechanics they cant do, future content will be made even harder to match, making them hit the same wall they are allready at.

No one should be struggling with content with current 1bar and oakensoul heavy attack meta build.

Maggusemm · April 30

It will be a wonderful new experience and a lot of possibilities. I am thrilled to explore all the opportunities.

It will be a lot of research, fine-tuning, adapting skills to content.

OldStygian · April 30

Yeah I'm really looking forward to it, I've wanted more freedom with skill selection since I started playing. I'd actually stopped playing ESO a couple of months ago, moving on to another game. This has brought my interest back to ESO. Am looking forward to tinkering with it, playing around with toons that have basically had the same setups for years now.

Can't wait

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LunaFlora · April 30

i am also very excited for Subclassing.

i love that I'll be able to make my main character more like how i want her to be.

Daoin · April 30

well in the end its all about the player now they ZOS say in the reveal, plenty of people like classical aswell as punk rock music, why not original eso and this i asked myself ? but man all this because daggers and a staff did not sit well with every player to be honest its not as bad as words like stamplar or magplar when thinking about my toons subplar has a ring to it. either way, as one of the players in eso i'll still be running a mile from groups optimized around this with my finger always on the leave group trigger

Pixiepumpkin · April 30

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SpiritKitten wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I will not subclass on any of my characters.

Okay but classes are being nerfed. The only way to maintain your power is by subclassing. So, you might not have a choice.

You can always choose to not run content with people who require you to subclass.

I'm talking about soloing....world bosses, group dungeons, DLC public dungeons, etc...

Subclassing isn't required for that and it never will be.

Except they are nerfing the pure classes, so in order to have the same power as before (or more), subclassing is not optional. Look what nerfs they have already done on PTS.

Nerfs happen all the time, even way before Subclassing was in the works. Our abilities were nerfed and we got around just fine.

The difference is that players who desire to play their class, as a class to be played (which for many of us is a primary contributing factor in the purchase and continued purchases of the game) are now at a severe disadvantage.

This is a massive attack on players who champion the RPG aspect of the game.

old_scopie1945 · April 30

Maggusemm wrote: »

It will be a wonderful new experience and a lot of possibilities. I am thrilled to explore all the opportunities.

It will be a lot of research, fine-tuning, adapting skills to content.

Yes there is that, but at the expense of other folks enjoyment. It will be a crying shame if this goes live and pure builds are not compensated for being devastated by the nerf hammer. It seems the ZOS motto is not "play as you want", but now "play as ZOS wants" Such disrespect being shown to more traditional players is, IMO deplorable.

licenturion · April 30

Yep looking forward to it as well. Stoked!

Don't care about extreme min maxing and if people don't want to play with my character, so be it. They only harm themselves by chasing more and more people away.

It also lines up with what they said in the podcast. They want the game to be an Elder Scrolls experience first and an MMO second.

Daoin · April 30

licenturion wrote: »

Yep looking forward to it as well. Stoked!

Don't care about extreme min maxing and if people don't want to play with my character, so be it. They only harm themselves by chasing people away.

dont worry mate, wont be just you already people just equipping a lightning staff on every toon and not playing vet dundeons properly with thier toons personally i already started leaving any random dungeon finder dlc dungeon on all tanks healer and dps toons. base game vets i just go with dd and a lightning staff for the exp the freedom of the HA way even when not built around it is quite relaxing actually. now if ZOS would be so kind as to split base and dlc when in que would be a nice thing as i have only around 200 cp left to 3600cp max and still refuse to exp normal BRP or run around in circles on the maps. had ZOS not messed with all my characters zen i'd be playing as usual through good and bad

Thysbe · April 30

I think they mostly cater to the loud voices that expect to clear every content on every difficulty no matter how little effort they put into their playstyle. One bar using HA only, no skills + the right mythic will do DPS fit for clearing a trifecta. Dumbing down every content to that level.

I really can´t see why anyone who isn´t able to keep up any kind of 2 bar DOT rotation or weaving has to do endgame content (trial trifectas). Like unnerfed Oakensoul - stand still and push your button, with the right build you don´t even have to care about a single boss mechanic (Immortal Redeemer).

So besides disrespecting the more traditional players they also devalue their achievements in the game to almost zero. Everything that needed a bit of effort on the player side seemed to be treated like that. Even the Master Angler had to be nerfed into nothingness by having curated drop rates.

I personally see that this is making me loosing all interest.