The Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion REMASTERED

Pepegrillos · April 25

Pevey wrote: »

I can imagine if you are someone working at ZOS, for your own sanity you have to get really good at tuning out criticism. But if none of the criticism ever gets through, nothing will ever change. A lot of people really do hate this game, and some awareness of that needs to creep through. I'm not going to go into all the reasons people give for hating the game. They are all out there, expressed many times in many ways by many different people. The people who take the time to write these things aren't just trying to be mean. They want ESO to be a true Elder Scrolls-level success that most players will actually recommend to other players. As it is, most Elder Scrolls fans pretend ESO just doesn't exist.

I've noticed there are two things people outside the ESO-sphere hate with a passion about this game: (1) the floaty combat (+weaving) and (2) the monetization of the game (the best cosmetics are all paid for).

NoticeMeArkay · April 25

I'm currently playing the remastered version of Oblivion and it's great fun.
I'm even capable of running it on medium settings with an Nvidia GTX 1080 on 60fps without issues. And I was 80% sure I'd most likely have to refund it (Steam purchase) but apparently I got very lucky.

It's incredibly well optimized as far as I can tell and still feels like Oblivion down to the core.

The character editor is incredibly fun and you can make characters look quite impressively unique.
Lots of people complained about the argonians based on the look of a few NPCs but I can assure you that you can even recreate skyrims argonians in Oblivion remastered. Khajiit never looked better in my opinion and the unique alien-like look of bosmer, altmer and dunmer was preserved without forcing "same face syndrome" onto the player while successfully avoiding to water them down to yet another pretty human with pointy ears.

f.e. here is a picture of my argoniann (left) next to an NPC by the docks (right).

Remind you the graphics portrayed on the picture above are medium settings.

Syldras · April 25

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Here's some familiar faces. Some of the merchants and also the Emperor's guard. The unlabeled character is my personal character. Chana Mornard from the Systres, my own little nod to ESO lol.

Thank you! Thoronir seems a little creepy to me

But Baurus does look really good. And the rest of the npcs from that selection seems okay.

SeaGtGruff · April 25

Syldras wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Here's some familiar faces. Some of the merchants and also the Emperor's guard. The unlabeled character is my personal character. Chana Mornard from the Systres, my own little nod to ESO lol.

Thank you! Thoronir seems a little creepy to me But Baurus does look really good. And the rest of the npcs from that selection seems okay.

Yes, I agree about some characters looking creepy, possibly from being so familiar with them from the OG. When I saw the adoring fan during the announcement livestream, my reaction was "ick!" Thoronir elicits the same reaction from me.

spartaxoxo · April 25

Rikkadir wrote: »

Does Rohssan still have limited Septims/gold at Fighting Chance?
Or are they now limitless.

I have no idea, I actually didn't realize she didn't have a cap in the first game. I'm only level 2 so I'm not sure if you can sell her items above her 1200 coin cap as I haven't found anything worth that much. All merchants have infinite coin below that coin as they always have.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

@spartaxoxo thanks for the character sampler shots. Your Chana Mornard character looks incredible!

Thank you!

I spent way too long in the character creator the first time I played. Didn't even have time to make it out the sewer lol.

Syldras wrote: »

Thank you! Thoronir seems a little creepy to me But Baurus does look really good. And the rest of the npcs from that selection seems okay.

Yes! Thoronir is a bit creepy but honestly Elves were always a bit creepy in Oblivion. I feel like ESO really gave them a glow-up. Or I guess they glow down later in the timeline

TaSheen · April 25

@spartaxoxo - Channa looks really good! I'll probably get the game eventually - my new machine is actually better than the "recommended" list so that's helpful - but I'm pretty unthrilled about it being steam....

Syldras · April 25

Now I'm somehow wondering if the npc design gets worse the farther you venture in the story - the best looking npcs I've seen so far were Emperor Uriel and Baurus after all

Or maybe they paid more attention to main characters? How does Jauffre look? Or Martin?

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Yes! Thoronir is a bit creepy but honestly Elves were always a bit creepy in Oblivion. I feel like ESO really gave them a glow-up. Or I guess they glow down later in the timeline

In Oblivion, they all looked like potatoes to me. Everyone.

Now I'm curious especially of the elves in this remake, though. Can somebody go to Skingrad and make screenshots of: Falanu Hlaalu from the alchemy store, Skingrad's other alchemist Sinderion who lives in the basement of the West Weald Inn, Maglir from the Fighter's Guild (I think he's also at the West Weald Inn at the beginning), Glarthir (you'll find him - or rather he'll find you

), Salmo the Baker (what ever he even exists for, as he sells nothing - and actually giving him bread will make the game crash)?

Oh, and as a plus a few non-mer... Count Hassildor, his steward Hal-Liurz (I think she had huge eyes in the original?), and maybe Gunder and Eyja from the general goods store?

RaddlemanNumber7 · April 25

I won't be touching this. If they'd fixed the clunky mechanics and left the graphics alone I might have been interested.

I particularly dislike what they've done to the NPC's faces. They're all unrecognisable and some of them are just plain deformed.

They left the bad bits alone and wiped away the good bits.

old_scopie1945 · April 25

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

I'm currently playing the remastered version of Oblivion and it's great fun.
I'm even capable of running it on medium settings with an Nvidia GTX 1080 on 60fps without issues. And I was 80% sure I'd most likely have to refund it (Steam purchase) but apparently I got very lucky.

It's incredibly well optimized as far as I can tell and still feels like Oblivion down to the core.

The character editor is incredibly fun and you can make characters look quite impressively unique.
Lots of people complained about the argonians based on the look of a few NPCs but I can assure you that you can even recreate skyrims argonians in Oblivion remastered. Khajiit never looked better in my opinion and the unique alien-like look of bosmer, altmer and dunmer was preserved without forcing "same face syndrome" onto the player while successfully avoiding to water them down to yet another pretty human with pointy ears.

f.e. here is a picture of my argoniann (left) next to an NPC by the docks (right).

Remind you the graphics portrayed on the picture above are medium settings.

I must say your Argoniann looks a lot better than the NPC, good show.

NoticeMeArkay · April 25

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

I must say your Argoniann looks a lot better than the NPC, good show.

Thanks! I went back ingame and made this Khajiit to show them off too. Personally, I think they look fantastic and the level of customization that the sliders allow for is fantastic

AzuraFan · April 25

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

I must say your Argoniann looks a lot better than the NPC, good show.

Thanks! I went back ingame and made this Khajiit to show them off too. Personally, I think they look fantastic and the level of customization that the sliders allow for is fantastic

Wow, the khajits look fantastic. Almost makes me want to play one. Almost. lol.

Warhawke_80 · April 25

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

Unreal supports vast and deep modding compatibility ...to compare that with this Frankensteined Hero Engine ability is laughable...

It's not about the capabilities of the tool kits. Owning the engine means they don't have to pay licensing fees to third parties to provide creation kits. It's relatively inexpensive for them compared to other companies and they have complete control over what those kits provide. They have a unique relationship with their modding community that is empowered, in part, by them having their own engine.

Nonsense....lol

The argument that owning an engine uniquely empowers modding communities is downright ludicrous when you factor in Unreal Engine’s superiority. Ditching licensing fees? Peanuts compared to the colossal expense of maintaining a proprietary engine—dev costs, updates, and patches pile up fast. “Complete control” over creation kits? More like shackling yourself to outdated tech. Unreal’s cutting-edge tools, vast ecosystem, and constant updates leave clunky, homegrown engines like Bethesda’s Creation Engine in the dust. Unreal’s Blueprint system and accessible source code make modding a breeze, powering vibrant mod scenes for games like Ark or Squad without needing a bespoke engine. The “unique relationship” with modders? That’s community engagement, not engine ownership. Any dev using Unreal can replicate that with good documentation and support. Claiming a proprietary engine is key to modding is like insisting you need to handcraft a hammer to build a house—when Unreal’s a freaking power tool factory. Absurd and outdated.

spartaxoxo · April 25

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

The argument that owning an engine uniquely empowers modding communities is downright ludicrous when you factor in Unreal Engine’s superiority.

A lot of companies opt into these types of engines and just get around the fees by not offering the same level of mod support. Bethesda chooses to their own engine to make their games their way and one of things it lets them do to support modding at a cheaper cost. Obviously it is not the only reason or they'd just do like other companies. Simply a nice bonus benefit. A lot of companies don't do that level of mod support because it is a large hassle that costs a lot and doesn't easily gain back costs.

Companies don't operate only on what is the latest tech. They're all aware of that unreal and other engines can do. There's a huge amount of reasons why any developer makes the games the way they choose to make them. At least Oblivion: Remastered is an engine more to your preference. 🤷🏿‍♀️ And that's the last I will say on this as it's besides the point of the thread.

spartaxoxo · April 26

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Syldras wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Yes! Thoronir is a bit creepy but honestly Elves were always a bit creepy in Oblivion. I feel like ESO really gave them a glow-up. Or I guess they glow down later in the timeline

In Oblivion, they all looked like potatoes to me. Everyone.

Now I'm curious especially of the elves in this remake, though. Can somebody go to Skingrad and make screenshots of:

I needed to go to Skingrad anyway to give Sinderion his Nirnroot. So, I tried to hit the places you asked. Also picked up some screenshots around Castle Skingrad because I had been interested in comparison ESO to it earlier. I was mainly interested in Skingrad because it's the newest zone on live for a short while more. Anyway, here's who I could see and a couple bonus ones I happened to run into while playing. Sadly, the Count is not seeing visitors at the moment. 😜

And here's some shots of West Weald Inn and Castle Skingrad in Oblivion: Remastered

And here's some shots of Castle Skingrad in ESO

Syldras · April 26

spartaxoxo wrote: »

-snipped for brevity-

Syldras wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Yes! Thoronir is a bit creepy but honestly Elves were always a bit creepy in Oblivion. I feel like ESO really gave them a glow-up. Or I guess they glow down later in the timeline

In Oblivion, they all looked like potatoes to me. Everyone.

Now I'm curious especially of the elves in this remake, though. Can somebody go to Skingrad and make screenshots of:

I needed to go to Skingrad anyway to give Sinderion his Nirnroot. So, I tried to hit the places you asked. Also picked up some screenshots around Castle Skingrad because I had been interested in comparison ESO to it earlier. I was mainly interested in Skingrad because it's the newest zone on live for a short while more. Anyway, here's who I could see and a couple bonus ones I happened to run into while playing. Sadly, the Count is not seeing visitors at the moment. 😜

Thanks a lot!

The mer really do look weird.

Actually, Salmo looks so scary, I wouldn't even consider buying bread from him anymore (and I don't seem to be the only person, considering he walks around in rags - I know he already did in the original game, but it looked less horrible. I'll probably have nightmares of him chasing me and trying to stuff me into his oven now).

BretonMage · April 26

I agree that the mer design is off-puttingly weird. The humans in the remaster are alright, but the mer suffer from either very odd proportions (the female altmer in particular) or strange colouring. The dunmer should be a bluish grey, but they're green or something in the remaster. I've noticed a fair few altmer with overly big mouths and long, balloony necks. The mouths in general in the game are too big.

I've often been startled and a little scared when I encounter a badly designed mer, which had never happened in any previous Elder Scrolls game. The games with the best mer design remain Skyrim and ESO.

Some unfortunate examples of mer:

Tbf, this is probably my biggest complaint about the remaster. Everything else is fine.

phairdon · April 26

Rungar wrote: »

Oblivion was a great game in its time but new paint wont change much. Ill pick it up on a deep sale at some point.

Yeah. Played many hours of the original version, it was first elder scrolls experience. Installed the remaster and spent a few hours exploring, just can't get into the game anymore.

Btw, its on game pass.

SeaGtGruff · April 26

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

Unreal supports vast and deep modding compatibility ...to compare that with this Frankensteined Hero Engine ability is laughable...

It's not about the capabilities of the tool kits. Owning the engine means they don't have to pay licensing fees to third parties to provide creation kits. It's relatively inexpensive for them compared to other companies and they have complete control over what those kits provide. They have a unique relationship with their modding community that is empowered, in part, by them having their own engine.

Nonsense....lol

The argument that owning an engine uniquely empowers modding communities is downright ludicrous when you factor in Unreal Engine’s superiority. Ditching licensing fees? Peanuts compared to the colossal expense of maintaining a proprietary engine—dev costs, updates, and patches pile up fast. “Complete control” over creation kits? More like shackling yourself to outdated tech. Unreal’s cutting-edge tools, vast ecosystem, and constant updates leave clunky, homegrown engines like Bethesda’s Creation Engine in the dust. Unreal’s Blueprint system and accessible source code make modding a breeze, powering vibrant mod scenes for games like Ark or Squad without needing a bespoke engine. The “unique relationship” with modders? That’s community engagement, not engine ownership. Any dev using Unreal can replicate that with good documentation and support. Claiming a proprietary engine is key to modding is like insisting you need to handcraft a hammer to build a house—when Unreal’s a freaking power tool factory. Absurd and outdated.

Do you work for the marketing department of Epic Games?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 26

Castle Skingrad is so much better in ESO, the one in Oblivion feels tiny and it's missing a backyard and back entrance.

Also Janus Hassildor is gonna wish he was not the Count of Skingrad when my Vestige returns from wherever to get his house back.

Xarc · April 26

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Castle Skingrad is so much better in ESO, the one in Oblivion feels tiny and it's missing a backyard and back entrance.

I agree about skingrad, I really like the city in ESO, maybe my favourite one in the fullgame

I still keep in mind that ESO is 1000 years ago when i playing TES IV or TES V.
but when I travel through Cyrodiil and I come across Fort Nikel, it's so amazing to think "I was there 1000 years ago"

zaria · April 26

VDoom1 wrote: »

This is such a huge nostalgia leap for me!

Oblivion was the first open world RPG I ever played. My first step into the Elder Scrolls universe. I was totally clueless and it was so much fun!

I love that Oblivion got this. Like woopie! It's always been my favorite Elder Scrolls game!

I played it a lot, so much that I remember the guild and main quest well I think. Need an second SSD for this so ordering an 4 TB one, that should help a lot

AvalonRanger · April 27

Bug is not culture. Just broken product.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7j9axu_QY
16 times bugs even in UnrealEngine5.

Syldras · April 27

It's fascinating that some of these bugs are exactly the same as they were in the original game.

Desiato · April 27

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

I'm currently playing the remastered version of Oblivion and it's great fun.
I'm even capable of running it on medium settings with an Nvidia GTX 1080 on 60fps without issues. And I was 80% sure I'd most likely have to refund it (Steam purchase) but apparently I got very lucky.

It's incredibly well optimized as far as I can tell and still feels like Oblivion down to the core.

It's funny that you say that because Digital Foundry were extremely critical of its performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0rCA1vpgSw

Digital Foundry is famous for their thorough an objective performance analyses.

spartaxoxo · April 27

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Bug is not culture. Just broken product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7j9axu_QY
16 times bugs even in UnrealEngine5.

I ran into a goblin that I couldn't shoot with my bow because the the game kept crashing. Had to use magic and lure him out of the mine and let a guard kill him.

Lylith · April 27

works fine for me, i'm level 20-something, atm.

admittedly, some of the characters still look a bit rough and unresolved, though.

no crashes. (fingers crossed)

PrayingSeraph · April 27

Anyone notice that the new DLC confirms that the

Order of the Hour

still exists in Oblivion's era?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 27

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Anyone notice that the new DLC confirms that the
Order of the Hour
still exists in Oblivion's era?

Their purpose seems completely different, also it's funny watching a Lich realize that Lichdom is a horrible way to exist.

NoticeMeArkay · April 27

Desiato wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

I'm currently playing the remastered version of Oblivion and it's great fun.
I'm even capable of running it on medium settings with an Nvidia GTX 1080 on 60fps without issues. And I was 80% sure I'd most likely have to refund it (Steam purchase) but apparently I got very lucky.

It's incredibly well optimized as far as I can tell and still feels like Oblivion down to the core.

It's funny that you say that because Digital Foundry were extremely critical of its performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0rCA1vpgSw

Digital Foundry is famous for their thorough an objective performance analyses.

Apparently not thorough enough? I dont know, i didn't watch the video you posted. But I can tell you that 60fps and medium settings on a gtx 1080 is definetly nothing I expected. But it works, smooth as silk.

robpr · April 27

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

I'm currently playing the remastered version of Oblivion and it's great fun.
I'm even capable of running it on medium settings with an Nvidia GTX 1080 on 60fps without issues. And I was 80% sure I'd most likely have to refund it (Steam purchase) but apparently I got very lucky.

It's incredibly well optimized as far as I can tell and still feels like Oblivion down to the core.

The optimization is all over the place. On my 3060 I'm getting 15 fps on exteriors on everything on Low, but it works smooth even on High when in interiors. For some people it works well, for some not at all - I did not see any middle ground yet.