The Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion REMASTERED

VDoom1 · April 24

This is such a huge nostalgia leap for me!

Oblivion was the first open world RPG I ever played. My first step into the Elder Scrolls universe. I was totally clueless and it was so much fun!

I love that Oblivion got this. Like woopie!

It's always been my favorite Elder Scrolls game!

AusarViled · April 24

if its a open world game on unreal its a hard pass for me. Unreal engine runs very poorly, and is known for some of the worst performance issues on PC of all game engines. May not be as bad as bugthesda engine, but not much of an improvement

SatanicSister · April 24

I'll pass the remastered version. I still play Oblivion every now and then, and I've never had any issues with it looking bad. As long as the game is good, I am not going to bothered by bad graphics.

And the pricetag would be quite high for me, as I would probably have to get a new laptop as well. I highly doubt my 4-year-old Lenovo Legion can properly run it. Even if it could, it would probably fry.

Xarc · April 24

Apparently some people criticize the game just because they can't afford to play it because of their old pc...
Guys if you can't play it don't spew your hate

old_scopie1945 · April 24

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

Oblivion was a great game in its time but new paint wont change much. Ill pick it up on a deep sale at some point.

I've seen a lot of people who haven't got the Remastered game describing it as new paint or just a reskin, but the people who are actually playing it describe it as going a lot deeper than that - which is my experience thus far. In some ways it's more a faithful remake than a remaster.

I have played the remaster, brought it an hour after it released, the truth is that IT IS Oblivion with a coat of paint, it still has the game breaking bugs both Major and Minor, people saying otherwise are looking at it through rose-tinted glasses.

I figured the game wasn't that good.

I feel like it depends on what you're looking for.

For anyone who has a lot of nostalgia for Oblivion, it's excellent. It's the same game with a fresh coat of paint and a few tweaks here and there. If you got sucked into Oblivion almost 20(!) years ago and haven't revisited in a while, it's a great way to get sucked back in.

If you don't enjoy the TES series, or your only introduction to TES was Skyrim and you prefer the various anti-RPG mechanics like the removal of equipment repairs and having attributes and more skills (again, some may call that QoL instead...), then maybe the Oblivion remaster will be a bit on the janky side. It is a 20 year old game, and a typical Bethesda game (read bugs both large and small), just with HD graphics.

I knew what I was getting into. And I love it. It would be great to get a Morrowind redo as well, but that's something that wouldn't be able to be ported over and given a fresh coat of paint as much as needing a ground-up rebuild from scratch.

Something to wet your whistle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NOmy08tSVk
Skywind is still being worked on, so keep your fingers crossed.

Sapphire_Lily · April 24

I’m enjoying it immensely. Lucien Lachance woke my khajiit up and he’s actually menacing in the remaster. It’s everything I wanted in a remaster.

Cooperharley · April 24

Imagine if ESO got some solid graphical updates

Pevey · April 24

Whether you personally buy it or like it, it is flying off the shelves. Everyone is talking about it. Even major brands like Dominos tweeted memes about it.

I know it always seems like I am just giving ZOS a hard time, but I am begging someone there to really think about the stark difference in reactions. Why is all this happening over the re-release of a 20-year game with bugs and performance problems? Why the love and excitement over this when the release of something new for ESO is always met with an overall reaction somewhere between "meh" and "I hate this?" They are both Elder Scrolls. People love Elder Scrolls.

But a lot of people really dislike ESO, and this is widely known. Rather than players and former players recommending the game to friends, the majority actively discourage others from playing it. See this Youtube link where a Skyrim streamer tries ESO and talks about all the unexpected barrage of negativity he got for it: [Skip to 25:35, the section about "Community"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXerFpiCca8&t=1535s

I can imagine if you are someone working at ZOS, for your own sanity you have to get really good at tuning out criticism. But if none of the criticism ever gets through, nothing will ever change. A lot of people really do hate this game, and some awareness of that needs to creep through. I'm not going to go into all the reasons people give for hating the game. They are all out there, expressed many times in many ways by many different people. The people who take the time to write these things aren't just trying to be mean. They want ESO to be a true Elder Scrolls-level success that most players will actually recommend to other players. As it is, most Elder Scrolls fans pretend ESO just doesn't exist.

BXR_Lonestar · April 24

Love the game! I threw money at my screen as soon as I got home and saw it was available for purchase. Have only just escaped the sewers (playing on an escalated difficulty), but the game looks gorgeous!

My only two problems:

1. I hate the choice for Body 1 vs. Body 2 body types. I don't see why this choice was necessary for a 20+ year old game. Just give me the game like it was. A few added additions like the Origins are nice, but this isn't one of them.

and

2. I hate that they changed the control scheme. Yes, I can customize my button mapping, but I'd really just prefer it if they offered "classic" control scheme or "revised" or whatever you want to call it as a button mapping layout.

Syldras · April 24

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

1. I hate the choice for Body 1 vs. Body 2 body types. I don't see why this choice was necessary for a 20+ year old game. Just give me the game like it was. A few added additions like the Origins are nice, but this isn't one of them.

I've noticed that on screenshots yesterday as well, and while I'm not emotionally engaged with this in either way (I don't care, I'll see it only for a few seconds during character creation anyway), it really makes me wonder how this is seen as an improvement or as more inclusive or modern? Because literally nothing changed, they just called it differently. We still have two clearly separate archetypes in game: "Body type 1" that has breasts and a higher voice, can't walk around topless and is called "she" by npcs. And "Body type 2" that has no breasts, a deeper voice, is taller and more muscular, can walk around topless, and is called "he" by npcs. You can't change any of these attributes in game, you can't mix anything, so what difference does it make whether the high-voiced, breasted figure adressed as "she" is called "body type 1", "female", "apple" or "toaster"? Except for one of these words being the usual biological term.

Makes me curious now, though: Does the clothing still change according to the character's sex? I remember that many clothes automatically had a skirt on female characters and pants on males in the original game. Which was something I disliked, as someone who loves to dress his male Dunmer characters with robes or shirt and long skirt combinations. Which was fully possible in Morrowind. Also, I never understood why someone playing a female adventurer should not be able to let her wear pants.

amig186 · April 24

Syldras wrote: »

Makes me curious now, though: Does the clothing still change according to the character's sex? I remember that many clothes automatically had a skirt on female characters and pants on males in the original game. Which was something I disliked, as someone who loves to dress his male Dunmer characters with robes or shirt and long skirt combinations. Which was fully possible in Morrowind. Also, I never understood why someone playing a female adventurer should not be able to let her wear pants.

Clothing behaves exactly as it did originally. Armour on the other hand uses the male version for both sexes, with adjustments where necessary, so there are no more iron boob plates or chain mail tank tops. A bit of a shame because they fit that campy fantasy movie style, but I know that not everyone liked them

zaria · April 24

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

Oblivion was a great game in its time but new paint wont change much. Ill pick it up on a deep sale at some point.

I've seen a lot of people who haven't got the Remastered game describing it as new paint or just a reskin, but the people who are actually playing it describe it as going a lot deeper than that - which is my experience thus far. In some ways it's more a faithful remake than a remaster.

I have played the remaster, brought it an hour after it released, the truth is that IT IS Oblivion with a coat of paint, it still has the game breaking bugs both Major and Minor, people saying otherwise are looking at it through rose-tinted glasses.

I played Oblivion for years after it was released. Had loads of fun, but think I wait for more mods.
I submitted an bug report, plants did not look harvested after picking, if was from an many years old mod i disabled to try to fix an bug. Because some mod or mod conflict cheap pants became skirts, so the gray fox was wearing an skirt as the stranger.

But the real bizarre stuff happened then the grey fox and the one who stole the Cowl of Nocturnal, and says he's her husband and the Gray Fox and the Countess of Anvil. At this perfect time Hieronymus Lex who your framed previously burst in to the room to talk about mudcrabs. No screenshots as I fell off my char laughing. I assume its an very rare thing as done that guest +10 times and it only happened once. but it was peak Oblivion.

Second most hilarious thing and easy to replicate is then fighting the bandits at the Anvil harbor side merchant in an fighter guild quest, they was to strong for me so i escaped out into the street, unlike Skyrim enemies will follow trough load doors but outside I would get help. One lady helped me in an Mythic Dawn outfit who was very weird as It was far from my first game. She was friendly.
I was not yet hostile to the Mythic Dawn so he helped me and the town.
Now having the thief guild and the guards fight the same enemy is just cool and realistic.

ArchMikem · April 24

Anyone else notice the build version they launched with is 0.4?

They've got some serious updates and patches to do.

spartaxoxo · April 24

Syldras wrote: »

I've noticed that on screenshots yesterday as well, and while I'm not emotionally engaged with this in either way (I don't care, I'll see it only for a few seconds during character creation anyway), it really makes me wonder how this is seen as an improvement or as more inclusive or modern? Because literally nothing changed, they just called it differently. .

It makes it easier for some transgender players to mentally identify their character as transgender.

Syldras · April 24

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It makes it easier for some transgender players to mentally identify their character as transgender.

I know very well how important it is for many trans people, especially if real life is rather troubled, to play a character that fits their self-perception. For binary trans people, that would be a male or a female character, so removing "male" and "female" in the editor makes it, if at all, worse, not better.

Do people identifying as nonbinary profit from having "body type 1" and "body type 2" instead of "male" and "female" if the depiction of said body types is exactly as usual (female body type is called "she" in dialogue, has breasts, has a high voice, wears skirts instead of pants, etc)? Because the gender depiction in Oblivion is very, very binary, and just not naming the depicted genders in game doesn't change that.

spartaxoxo · April 24

Syldras wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It makes it easier for some transgender players to mentally identify their character as transgender.

I know very well how important it is for many trans people, especially if real life is rather troubled, to play a character that fits their self-perception. For binary trans people, that would be a male or a female character, so removing "male" and "female" in the editor makes it, if at all, worse, not better.

Do people identifying as nonbinary profit from having "body type 1" and "body type 2" instead of "male" and "female" if the depiction of said body types is exactly as usual (female body type is called "she" in dialogue, has breasts, has a high voice, wears skirts instead of pants, etc)?

Yes, some non-binary players do. I think they're the main ones that wished for that but I'm not too familiar with the subject. Some of them also consider non-binary to be a form of transgender. I can see how a binary transgender person may not like that but then the NPCs in game would still be using male/female pronouns. I don't want to speak too definitively as I'm not a member of either community.

SeaGtGruff · April 24

Pevey wrote: »

Whether you personally buy it or like it, it is flying off the shelves. Everyone is talking about it. Even major brands like Dominos tweeted memes about it.

I know it always seems like I am just giving ZOS a hard time, but I am begging someone there to really think about the stark difference in reactions. Why is all this happening over the re-release of a 20-year game with bugs and performance problems? Why the love and excitement over this when the release of something new for ESO is always met with an overall reaction somewhere between "meh" and "I hate this?" They are both Elder Scrolls. People love Elder Scrolls.

But a lot of people really dislike ESO, and this is widely known. Rather than players and former players recommending the game to friends, the majority actively discourage others from playing it. See this Youtube link where a Skyrim streamer tries ESO and talks about all the unexpected barrage of negativity he got for it: [Skip to 25:35, the section about "Community"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXerFpiCca8&t=1535s

I can imagine if you are someone working at ZOS, for your own sanity you have to get really good at tuning out criticism. But if none of the criticism ever gets through, nothing will ever change. A lot of people really do hate this game, and some awareness of that needs to creep through. I'm not going to go into all the reasons people give for hating the game. They are all out there, expressed many times in many ways by many different people. The people who take the time to write these things aren't just trying to be mean. They want ESO to be a true Elder Scrolls-level success that most players will actually recommend to other players. As it is, most Elder Scrolls fans pretend ESO just doesn't exist.

Personally, I love The Elder Scrolls Online and will happily recommend it to anyone who's looking for a game to play. But I was resistant to it way back when it first released, for no other reason than it's an online game and I wasn't at all interested in any online games back then, especially ones that required a subscription to play. I promptly forgot about it even existing for years, and back in 2017 when I was looking to get into gaming again it came as a complete surprise that there was an Elder Scrolls MMO. I bit the bullet and have been playing ESO every day since-- except on rare occasions when I have an internet outage or power outage.

Northwold · April 24

Desperately resisting the urge to buy this and lose months of my spare time! IMO Oblivion is SO MUCH better than Skyrim because they never sanded off the edges. It was when they were still inventive, willing to experiment, willing to allow quests to take you down completely unexpected rabbit holes, not afraid of visual variety. It's an absolutely amazing game.

Rungar · April 24

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

JustLovely · April 24

Xarc wrote: »

For all fans of the Elder Scrolls series,
The Elder Scrolls IV: OBLIVION Remastered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJ3PZuAjK4

Available today

This looks great, but why?

JustLovely · April 24

Rungar wrote: »

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

They should put ESO on a new engine too. If they can "remaster" Oblivion they can do it for ESO too.

SeaGtGruff · April 24

JustLovely wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

They should put ESO on a new engine too. If they can "remaster" Oblivion they can do it for ESO too.

I doubt it would be very easy. For one thing, ESO has a lot more graphical resources than Oblivion.

Icy_Waffles · April 24

I have to say it’s the first title that has made me consider upgrading consoles lol

spartaxoxo · April 25

Here's some familiar faces. Some of the merchants and also the Emperor's guard. The unlabeled character is my personal character. Chana Mornard from the Systres, my own little nod to ESO lol.

JimT722 · April 25

I liked Morrowind and Skyrim more than Oblivion. Oblivion was a good game, though. I'm enjoying the remaster. it looks so good. Now they need to do Morrowind.

old_scopie1945 · April 25

JustLovely wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

They should put ESO on a new engine too. If they can "remaster" Oblivion they can do it for ESO too.

No thank you very much. ESO has a charm all of its own and doesn't need any resource hungry mega platform. ZOS has the capability of improving older areas to the level of the newer DLCs anyway.

Xarc · April 25

JustLovely wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

They should put ESO on a new engine too. If they can "remaster" Oblivion they can do it for ESO too.

Not everyone has a computer capable of running UE5. So fewer players, fewer clients for Bethesda, on an MMO it's not the best idea

Grizzbeorn · April 25

JustLovely wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

If ive learned anything from this its that you can, in fact, slap unreal engine on top of any game.

They should put ESO on a new engine too. If they can "remaster" Oblivion they can do it for ESO too.

You can't just "put" a game like ESO on a new engine. It's not a copy-paste kind of thing.
You have to re-code the entire game from scratch on the new engine.

Not even close to being a remaster.

Rikkadir · April 25

Does Rohssan still have limited Septims/gold at Fighting Chance?
Or are they now limitless.

AcadianPaladin · April 25

@spartaxoxo thanks for the character sampler shots. Your Chana Mornard character looks incredible!