Getting Kicked from PvP - please explain

Feaky · February 24

Queues over 100+ in GH and nearly the same in BR, I had to settle for the joke 7 day campaign the last 2 nights, now I cannot even log into ESO. This game is a joke. So Unreliable.

Zama666 · February 25

@Feaky ...BRUTAL

L_Nici · February 26

Usually if you crash or get kicked, you will not lose your spot in the campaign right away. Today I also crashed 4 times, annoying but on Windows 11 I am used to it. Somehow ESO just acts weird on 11. If you relog right away you just start where you left, even if you are in queue the queue counts you down further if you crashed, you do not start from the beginning again.

SeaGtGruff · February 26

I got disconnected twice last night on PC NA.

First time was during a large 3-way fight over Roe, so I guess it was understandable, but I was inside the walls in the thick of things several times with no problems (other than getting killed), then got disconnected while I was riding toward a resource and being fired upon by siege.

Second time was at a different keep IIRC, but near a lot of players of the same alliance as before. I swear, sometimes I suspect that some players deliberately use certain skills or stack procs that they know will cause players around them to lag out or disconnect. /shrug

Zama666 · February 28

I got disconnected 3x, always a big fight....always extra annoying during double xp events...

Zama666 · March 1

I got disconnected 3x, always a big fight....always extra annoying during double xp events...

yourhpgod · March 3

ping exploiting is a real thing in this game. I been around in circles with them about it.

Zama666 · March 11

hello,

today I can't get in at all:

i am getting:

An unexpected internal error has occurred.
Please contact customer service at https://
help.elderscrollsonline.com

over and over again.

oddly it worked 2 days ago before the update

Zama666 · March 16

ok, today, I was play about 4 hours, 2 sessions. PVP...

I NEVER got kicked once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did something change????

What did happen in big fights, my ping would jump to 999+ and no of my kills would fire, but I could run around, then suddenly it would catch up.

But I did not get kicked in two or 3 HUGE fights....

Progress??????

Z

Zama666 · March 19

Yesterday I also never got kicked but ping would jump to 999+ and I really could no do anything.

Same thing happened today, but it happened a lot and finally got kicked after 40 minutes.

I was unplayable....

but something got 'better'

Zama666 · March 20

today, no high ping kicked...not even a fight....

Zama666 · March 20

and again, 999+, but right away kick

Zama666 · March 21

Again,

HUGE battle, in t for almost 20 minutes, get kicked. Any chance or AP GONE
Get back in - same fight....5 more minutes....lag get crazy. Tag teamed watching stills of battle...death.
NO AP

Zama666 · March 22

And today, wait in a queue of 40, not terrible...but normal.
Get in for 30 minutes, freeze, kik'd...
and this time OUT of PVP!!!

I have to q again!!!!

Zama666 · March 30

Just tried Vengeance for the first time.
Lag is BRUTAL!!!!

Zama666 · March 30

I died and got kicked back to PVE...I got back in same lag, then got kicked.

SolarRune · March 30

If you are having issues in Vengence this points more to something about your setup/your end/location, for all the criticism of the experimental PVP instance, the one thing that is pretty common across the board is the reduction to no/very little lag, even when you are in groups multiple times bigger than than the entire server population in normal cyro campaign.

Zama666 · March 30

I died and got kicked back to PVE...I got back in same lag, then got kicked.

Zama666 · March 30

@SolarRune Hey! Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I get it, it is experimental. Nothing has changed with my set up. CPU/GPU monitor, normal. Latency would jump from 999+-235ms. Speed test were normal for my bandwidth on my end.

It was a Saturday night.

Suggestions what I can be looking for?

Tankz!

Z

SolarRune · March 30

If you're PC the starting point would be Addons - turn them all off and try it

Zama666 · March 31

hmmm... lag is not bad to day
Addons all turned off

But, I am playing a templar with 1H&S
All skills on that bar work

Other bar, I have a lightning staff.
When in combat:

Heavy attack only work 20% of the time, I hold, and nothing
Light Attacks, no issue
I also have Cleansing Ritual, Spear Shards, Piercing Javelin, Solar Flare and Sun fire.
Only spear shards is reliably usable. The rest are greyed out most of the time. Only occasionally they fire
I still have enough Magicka

And all my skills are Magicka based? What is Stamina used for?

Btw, where do I submit my feedback for Vengeance?
It is not bad.

Tankz,

Z

Zama666 · March 31

Things seem to be going a bit better. I got kicked after 2 hours.
My Ping was good, but big battles, the lag was terrible

Anyone else getting kicked?

The battles are huge which is cool.

Do all weapons do the same amount of damage?

MJallday · March 31

the frequency that this is happening suggests that you need to examine your setup

1. Remove all add ons. stop anything else on your pc running except eso
2. test your ping. not in pvp. just a quiet area no other people.
3. run a constant ping -t in the background. when you crash.. see what the ping times are - this will confirm theres a correlation between lag spikes and d/c's
4. consider change of ISPs. different ISPs will have different routes to ZOS. alternatively...
5. use a VPN.
6. you could change your entire setup or move house but this is a bit extreme

worth also grouping with a friend and seeing if they get kicked at the same time as you. if they dont and you do (when you're doing the same thing) - it may help you narrow the issue. good luck

Zama666 · April 1

Hey @MJallday

Thanks for helping out.

1. all addon disabled - same issue
2. ping varied through out the game. 200ms-999+ But sometimes in PVE it was 500+. Yes, in quiet times or alone, it dropped. Today in ROC it is 140ms when quiet
3. did not try this
4. Changing my vpn would be tough, I have limited choice - however before vengeance, same issues - getting kick, although Vengeance was a less frequent. I got kicked 2 in 3 times. Usually only once a session. Also never got 'can't mount when in combat'
5. I have tried with and without a vpn - no difference
6. If I had the money, I would....

Appreciate your feedback.

If you don't mind - what did you notice different in Vengeance vs ROC (Regular old Cyrodiil) for performance?

Zama666 · April 1

ok...today I play ROC (Regular Old Cyro) for about 2 hours.

I DID NOT GET KICKED
I DID NOT LAG

Could they have made changes already????

MJallday · April 1

Zama666 wrote: »

Hey @MJallday

Thanks for helping out.

1. all addon disabled - same issue
2. ping varied through out the game. 200ms-999+ But sometimes in PVE it was 500+. Yes, in quiet times or alone, it dropped. Today in ROC it is 140ms when quiet
3. did not try this
4. Changing my vpn would be tough, I have limited choice - however before vengeance, same issues - getting kick, although Vengeance was a less frequent. I got kicked 2 in 3 times. Usually only once a session. Also never got 'can't mount when in combat'
5. I have tried with and without a vpn - no difference
6. If I had the money, I would....

Appreciate your feedback.

If you don't mind - what did you notice different in Vengeance vs ROC (Regular old Cyrodiil) for performance?

if your ping is that variable.. and you're getting 500+ in pve - then theres really no hope and thats probably where your key issue your side is (btw im not suggesting this is all your fault - ZOS is aware of its own performance issues).

have you considered a different ISP (suggestion 4) - i know when i moved in the uk from one provider to another it dropped signficantly because they used different methods to get to the backbone.

for me, vengeance was fine - but then again i didnt have any problems in ROC as you call it.

Zama666 · April 2

Back to getting kicked from ROC....
Ping 999+
But this time kicked right of PvP, back to PVE

I doubt it is my ISP as my web browsing is fine, and my local ping is also low.

Wondering if distance from MegaServer makes a difference

Zama666 · April 2

I tried a VPN.
I think servers more south of the US are better.
I was on for about an hour, it got laggy during big fights, but I did not get kicked!
Lasted in a big fight to get a 41k tik!

MJallday · April 4

Zama666 wrote: »

I tried a VPN.
I think servers more south of the US are better.
I was on for about an hour, it got laggy during big fights, but I did not get kicked!
Lasted in a big fight to get a 41k tik!

theres your answer, its your routing. You might get mega browsing speeds but if your route to ZOS is not as optimal, thats where the problem will be

either switch to a VPN or switch ISP is your solotion

Zama666 · April 5

MJallday wrote: »

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Zama666 wrote: »

I tried a VPN.
I think servers more south of the US are better.
I was on for about an hour, it got laggy during big fights, but I did not get kicked!
Lasted in a big fight to get a 41k tik!

theres your answer, its your routing. You might get mega browsing speeds but if your route to ZOS is not as optimal, thats where the problem will be

either switch to a VPN or switch ISP is your solotion

Hey @MJallday I am using a vpn. I noticed I have better luck with Southern US servers