This test is the most fun I’ve had in Cyrodiil in a very long time. The combat is pretty bare bones, but to me it’s still fun and there’s still some room for skill expression.

Numbers are definitely more effective than ever, but I was able to play 100% solo and away from zergs today. I still had a good time and found good small fights.

To be fair I’ve always hated all of the cheese and build variety in ESO, so this environment is closer to what I want from the game. I understand that others love to theory craft and outbuild others though.

frogthroat wrote: »

I don't think there is a conspiracy or moving goalposts or anything like that. They are troubleshooting to find out the cause so they know what needs to be done.

We don't know what they are going to do once they isolate the issue. Even they don't know - otherwise there would be no reason for troubleshooting, just implement the fix. It can be a complicated thing, for example remove many proc sets and multi-effect skills. Or it could be as simple as moving one line in the code from a repeating function to run only once. But nobody knows at this point. That's why troubleshooting exists, to find out what causes issues.

It is not a conspiracy because it has happened before that positive response to a performance-based ruleset led to impactful gameplay changes. No-proc and the reduction of group sizes from 24 to 12 were both gameplay decisions that emerged from otherwise unsuccessful performance tests. It is pretty obvious that, while part of Vengeance is definitely to get a baseline on performance, another objective of it is to test the viability of PVP-specific skills. If our opinion on the gameplay aspect of this test were wholly irrelevant, ZOS would not have asked us several questions about just that in their official feedback thread.

KiltMaster wrote: »

I know this is a test

But I'm old enough to remember what happened to Ravenwatch when a small group of people proclaimed that no proc was the best thing that ever happened to the game, and the test became a forced change real quick.

"But I'm old enough to remember what happened to Ravenwatch when a small group of people proclaimed that no proc was the best thing that ever happened to the game, and the test became a forced change real quick."

Oh, you mean the Ravenwatch no proc that doesn't exist anymore?

sans-culottes wrote: »

Quackery wrote: »

This pvp mode was fun for one day, but it's utterly unplayable not having any ACTUAL skills or being able to play the way we were SUPPOSED TO PLAY!! Why the hell were they even selling us the new chapter if our scribed skills are worthless?!?

I've spent more than 10k on this game, but I think I'm bowing out on Cyrodiil. This is just tragic. Let's hope for ZOS's sake that these new players actually spend money...

$10,000 USD? That’s not insignificant. Anyway, you know this is just a week, right? They said so many times. Not sure what’s “tragic” about it.

It'll be tragic if ZOS gives up on fixing the original PvP they created and goes with any version of template only PvP as the only option going forward.

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We have lost so much in this game since 2014.

Torchbugs

Cyrodiil Deer

Doors on towers

Animation Canceling

and now..

All skills except class.

In the name of performance.

Before anyone comments. We know it's a test. It's always a test before they really change stuff.

Thats what Ive been saying is if the way theyre improving performance is by taking things away from Cyro then theres only so much that can be removed before you run out of stuff to take away to artificially increase performance.

@SeaGtGruff You stated out that Animation Canceling is still what it was and thats just straight up false information. I just made you clear your statement is fully wrong because AC is not what it was back in time not even much close to it anymore... and now its me "attacking you"..... only because i stated out your point is fully false about "animation canceling is still what it was". You could actually cancel animations way faster and in different ways or for example cancel animation of ults or cancel the animations of the skills in general a lot faster etc etc. nothing to deal with light attack or anything like that. What you are refering to is just ONE part of remaining animation canceling possibilites left in the game and i dont think its rly good or productive in any sort of way if someone tells X thing is still same as it was (on the forums especially) even tho its totally false, im not talking about only one part of animation canceling and neither you did, its about your statement of AC being still what it was and there for you got my anwser. I anwsered to you and literally just said its wrong information, animation canceling is not what it was and got changed drastically and by a lot. Dont feel attacked! Because i didnt attack you, i just pointed out a very false statement of you and now you got it even explained with some examples here by me if you dont believe in it there is surely patch notes left there to reread how much actually animation canceling got changed. Just the clear example at the end (Back in days could animation cancel dawnbreaker with basically block canceling it) how is it still same AC now compared to back in time before they changed it when i cant animation cancel my dawnbreaker nowadays via block anymore but could do it back then? And by animation canceling a Dawnbreaker back then via block it literally means you could cancel the animation of dawnbreaker via block if you timed it good so the ult went out almost without any animation showing there much since you canceled its animation just for clarification. "So please stop attacking me for pointing out that animation cancelling is still a thing." and this was by all means not the statement you made firstly about animation canceling which i just pointed out, its still a thing but not what it was yes. A person states out we lost things of X Y Z we lost things of animation canceling and in fact we lost the possibilitie to cancel ults via block for example so how didnt we lose the animation canceling there? And thats just one thing what we lost in terms of Animation Canceling.... nothing ment bad just a missunderstanding maybe but maybe you will understand my side sry for the bunch of text