Sometime dungreon hm mechanics 100% aim me

Renato90085 · November 28

This has bothered me for a long time but I didn't have a forum account before..
yesterday i help a friend go tank VCA HM last boss
we wipe 5 time but finish this,but..in there 5 wipe all link mech 100% aim me+anyone
it not first happen in me,it happen in lastyear when i run SH/BS/SCP hm

Bammlschwamml · November 28

It's either bad luck, or it's just in your head (like always picking the slowest lane) or a game mechanic you should learn.

Sometimes the player standing furthest away gets targeted, sometimes it's the closest...

Renato90085 · November 28

Bammlschwamml wrote: »

It's either bad luck, or it's just in your head (like always picking the slowest lane) or a game mechanic you should learn.

Sometimes the player standing furthest away gets targeted, sometimes it's the closest...

I don't think so, we have combat addon and vc and we know mech is random choose
and it not my first time do these dungreon hm...

sarahthes · November 28

There are certain game mechanics that seem to pick a person to target and will target that person unless there's no option to (i.e. they are already dead) unless the group disbands and reforms.

Dagoth_Rac · November 28

Soarora · November 28

Are you the tank in this situation? It is not a random mechanic. I haven't gone back to do the testing but I'm pretty sure that he links the two closest people of some sort, either two closest people to him or closest person to the person in front of him, maybe something else. Either way, the tank will always get the link unless the tank is further than someone else from the boss (like when I was moving to a new position when link comes out, that's the only time I, as the tank, did not get linked). As healer, I have successfully baited the link by standing next to the tank, in front of the boss.

I will also note that it is not new to be like this, as I healed it back when it came out and that is when I first realized it seems possible to bait the links. People just generally think its random for some reason, maybe one person somewhere said its random and everyone took that and ran, but it's not random.

Castagere · November 28

This happens to me all the time, In public dungeons or delves. I can stand there all day doing light attacks, but as soon as I use an ability, they focus on me. It doesn't matter how many other players are pounding on the boss mob.

Soarora · November 28

Castagere wrote: »

This happens to me all the time, In public dungeons or delves. I can stand there all day doing light attacks, but as soon as I use an ability, they focus on me. It doesn't matter how many other players are pounding on the boss mob.

If there’s no taunt, then I think enemies focus the person with the highest damage or the highest healing, preferring to target the healer. I may be wrong on this point though, not something I’ve personally paid attention to.

Amottica · November 28

Soarora wrote: »

Castagere wrote: »

This happens to me all the time, In public dungeons or delves. I can stand there all day doing light attacks, but as soon as I use an ability, they focus on me. It doesn't matter how many other players are pounding on the boss mob.

If there’s no taunt, then I think enemies focus the person with the highest damage or the highest healing, preferring to target the healer. I may be wrong on this point though, not something I’ve personally paid attention to.

and distance from the boss can play in some fights. Also, when speaking anecdotally as we are here our memories can make it seem like we are always getting targeted.

Not knowing what mechanic they are speaking of makes it difficult to respond appropriately.

Renato90085 · November 29

Soarora wrote: »

Are you the tank in this situation? It is not a random mechanic. I haven't gone back to do the testing but I'm pretty sure that he links the two closest people of some sort, either two closest people to him or closest person to the person in front of him, maybe something else. Either way, the tank will always get the link unless the tank is further than someone else from the boss (like when I was moving to a new position when link comes out, that's the only time I, as the tank, did not get linked). As healer, I have successfully baited the link by standing next to the tank, in front of the boss.

I will also note that it is not new to be like this, as I healed it back when it came out and that is when I first realized it seems possible to bait the links. People just generally think its random for some reason, maybe one person somewhere said its random and everyone took that and ran, but it's not random.

Shipwright's Regret HM fIrst boss stage 1 choose mech i am dps and not highest dmg
Coral Aerie HM lastboss Tether mech I have experience for all role,i link other dd/healer when i other 2 run
100% only happen this time (tank
Bal sunnar hm I am highest dps because i help a newplayer group

code65536 · November 29

For the Coral final boss HM tether specifically, it does seem to prioritize the tank a lot. As a tank, I get the tether about 80% of the time. There have even been runs where I got every tether.

But it wasn't like this originally. When Coral was first released, the tether targeting was indeed random and I didn't get it more often than other players. But some time within the past year (not sure when exactly), its targeting behavior changed and the tank is targeted far more frequently.

From a trifecta perspective, this is nice since the tank is better able to handle the damage from the tether. But from a just-get-a-clear perspective, this change is pretty nasty because if the tank is involved in a tether mishap, it's a wipe and you're not recovering.

Soarora · November 29

Renato90085 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Are you the tank in this situation? It is not a random mechanic. I haven't gone back to do the testing but I'm pretty sure that he links the two closest people of some sort, either two closest people to him or closest person to the person in front of him, maybe something else. Either way, the tank will always get the link unless the tank is further than someone else from the boss (like when I was moving to a new position when link comes out, that's the only time I, as the tank, did not get linked). As healer, I have successfully baited the link by standing next to the tank, in front of the boss.

I will also note that it is not new to be like this, as I healed it back when it came out and that is when I first realized it seems possible to bait the links. People just generally think its random for some reason, maybe one person somewhere said its random and everyone took that and ran, but it's not random.

Shipwright's Regret HM fIrst boss stage 1 choose mech i am dps and not highest dmg
Coral Aerie HM lastboss Tether mech I have experience for all role,i link other dd/healer when i other 2 run
100% only happen this time (tank
Bal sunnar hm I am highest dps because i help a newplayer group

I'm not sure what you're talking about with SWR HM. If it's the stack AoE, I haven't particularly noticed how often certain players get it because either way everyone's involved with the mechanic.

For CA HM, any time I run it as tank I get the tether, and a friend of mine (tank) was also complaining about the tether (also saying it wasn't always that tank would get tethered, so maybe Code is right that it did change). That said, again, I haven't gone back to do testing, my observations are from looking at logs and recent personal experience (darn you, CA tri). It could be that it's something to do with who gets in first or CP like other strange situations, but it's certainly not random.

Bal Sunnar I don't know what you mean because there's no targeted mechanics I can think of except skeever spawns (it seems as a tank, I get my skeever spawning last) and the first boss teleporting to someone.

Renato90085 · November 29

Amottica wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Castagere wrote: »

This happens to me all the time, In public dungeons or delves. I can stand there all day doing light attacks, but as soon as I use an ability, they focus on me. It doesn't matter how many other players are pounding on the boss mob.

If there’s no taunt, then I think enemies focus the person with the highest damage or the highest healing, preferring to target the healer. I may be wrong on this point though, not something I’ve personally paid attention to.

and distance from the boss can play in some fights. Also, when speaking anecdotally as we are here our memories can make it seem like we are always getting targeted.

Not knowing what mechanic they are speaking of makes it difficult to respond appropriately.

Soarora wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Are you the tank in this situation? It is not a random mechanic. I haven't gone back to do the testing but I'm pretty sure that he links the two closest people of some sort, either two closest people to him or closest person to the person in front of him, maybe something else. Either way, the tank will always get the link unless the tank is further than someone else from the boss (like when I was moving to a new position when link comes out, that's the only time I, as the tank, did not get linked). As healer, I have successfully baited the link by standing next to the tank, in front of the boss.

I will also note that it is not new to be like this, as I healed it back when it came out and that is when I first realized it seems possible to bait the links. People just generally think its random for some reason, maybe one person somewhere said its random and everyone took that and ran, but it's not random.

Shipwright's Regret HM fIrst boss stage 1 choose mech i am dps and not highest dmg
Coral Aerie HM lastboss Tether mech I have experience for all role,i link other dd/healer when i other 2 run
100% only happen this time (tank
Bal sunnar hm I am highest dps because i help a newplayer group

I'm not sure what you're talking about with SWR HM. If it's the stack AoE, I haven't particularly noticed how often certain players get it because either way everyone's involved with the mechanic.

For CA HM, any time I run it as tank I get the tether, and a friend of mine (tank) was also complaining about the tether (also saying it wasn't always that tank would get tethered, so maybe Code is right that it did change). That said, again, I haven't gone back to do testing, my observations are from looking at logs and recent personal experience (darn you, CA tri). It could be that it's something to do with who gets in first or CP like other strange situations, but it's certainly not random.

Bal Sunnar I don't know what you mean because there's no targeted mechanics I can think of except skeever spawns (it seems as a tank, I get my skeever spawning last) and the first boss teleporting to someone.

yes, it stack aoe ,i read this mech is choose one when boss health is higher than 30%
Bal Sunnar it first boss teleporting and put a aoe
and if i run vet it never happen to me

Renato90085 · December 7

Update: happen again but not for me , and have taunt bug?
yesterday night i help friend do SWRHM
in log we arc dps 100% got all stack mech in SWR HM first boss
every wipe we have 2 time mech , in all 4 wipe 1kill he get 9 time mech, only 1 time he die so mech choose me
next stage all choose he too.
and sometime tank first taunt but boss attack me first, log say he first lightattack or es
but timeline have tremorscale first sec

https://www.esologs.com/reports/fr9wmNg8TxjnaDGQ#fight=3&type=damage-taken&ability=-163756

Soarora · December 7

Renato90085 wrote: »

Update: happen again but not for me , and have taunt bug?
yesterday night i help friend do SWRHM
in log we arc dps 100% got all stack mech in SWR HM first boss
every wipe we have 2 time mech , in all 4 wipe 1kill he get 9 time mech, only 1 time he die so mech choose me
next stage all choose he too.
and sometime tank first taunt but boss attack me first, log say he first lightattack or es
but timeline have tremorscale first sec

https://www.esologs.com/reports/fr9wmNg8TxjnaDGQ#fight=3&type=damage-taken&ability=-163756

Oh yeah, for sure taunt is bugged. I've heard people be told to do a light attack before taunting. Sometimes I taunt and it just doesn't go off (one time in a TTT prog I used frost clench and WATCHED THE PROJECTILE HIT THE ENEMY and it didn't taunt it so I just stood there in shock and died. So it's not just that I somehow missed...). In MHK on last boss I have to taunt Vykosa before taunting a dog or else the taunt doesn't apply at all to the dog.