PTS Update 44 - Feedback Thread for IC Itemization

ZOS_Kevin · September 16

This is the official feedback thread for the IC Itemization. Specifically, the focus is on testing currency conversion. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

Did your keys/fragments convert to currency?
Do you have any other general feedback?

acastanza_ESO · September 16

The first major callout is that Imperial Keys and Imperial Key Fragments are being converted to a new account-wide currency called “Imperial Fragments”. Keys and Key Fragments will be automatically converted from your inventory, or when they first go into your inventory from banks, guild traders, etc. Going forward, enemies will also drop this new currency instead of either keys or key fragments. Unlike Tel Var, you do not lose this currency on death.

Mine converted, including the ones that were in my bank without me needing to access or withdraw them. Noting because that was not my understanding of what would happen based on the quoted patch note (not complaining though).

Edit: ones in the inventories of other characters converted upon login to those characters

jcaceresw · September 17

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for the IC Itemization. Specifically, the focus is on testing currency conversion. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:
Did your keys/fragments convert to currency?

Do you have any other general feedback?

I saw how my key fragments got converted but since I do not have keys I don't know if they are converted to a specific amount of key fragments or they are converted in a 1:1 fashion? Wish the patch notes could be more clear on that subject.

Note aside, can you make already collected rune boxes to be grayed out or have a red message stating we already have that collectible as you do with the storage chests (the ones that comes from the Siege of Cyrodiil items)? They are bind on pickup so I don't benefit on getting a duplicate and try to sell it or email it to another account.

On another subject, I like the new changes on this patch. Makes me want to play IC a lot more than I currently do.

Necrotech_Master · September 17

very happy to have more sources to get gear, especially curated lol

kind of sad to see key frags go, i really enjoyed selling those lol

Jsmalls · September 17

From what I saw the Imperial City Mythic vendor had the same Leads as the infinite archive vendor?

Would prefer to see different options available for each.

If this could be weighted towards Mythics that have more preferred usage in PvP that would be even better.

ZOS_Kevin · September 18

jcaceresw wrote: »

I saw how my key fragments got converted but since I do not have keys I don't know if they are converted to a specific amount of key fragments or they are converted in a 1:1 fashion? Wish the patch notes could be more clear on that subject.

Hi jcaceresw! It is indeed a 1:1 conversion.
Here is a better breakdown as provided by the dev team.

1 fragment = 1 Imperial Fragment
1 IC vault key (any of the 6) = 60 Imperial Fragments (the original cost to make an IC vault key)
1 IC dungeon vault key = 150 Imperial Fragments (the original cost to make an IC dungeon vault key)

chessalavakia_ESO · September 19

My Key Fragments and Keys converted.

The Baron Thrisk Coffer is listed twice on the Grand Armor Vendor.

Could an icon be implemented to indicate if something is curated to avoid confusion?

For example, the coffers for the specific Imperial City Monster Shoulders are Curated without any label indicating it but, the coffer you get from the White Gold Tower Vault for Imperial Fragments are not curated.

I'm kind of curious what Tur wants to do with the Fragments.

Ratzkifal · September 19

What about legacy vault fragments that have now been serving as valuable collectibles? The patchnotes don't mention that since their names aren't "key fragment" even if that is their purpose. It would be a shame if my 8 year old Planar Armor was converted into Imperial Fragments rather than simply becoming a 'useless' legacy item (that still serves its purpose as a collectible and piece of history from a time before "key fragments" were introduced).
I couldn't check on them on the PTS yet...

Necrotech_Master · September 19

Ratzkifal wrote: »

What about legacy vault fragments that have now been serving as valuable collectibles? The patchnotes don't mention that since their names aren't "key fragment" even if that is their purpose. It would be a shame if my 8 year old Planar Armor was converted into Imperial Fragments rather than simply becoming a 'useless' legacy item (that still serves its purpose as a collectible and piece of history from a time before "key fragments" were introduced).
I couldn't check on them on the PTS yet...

my understanding is those legacy OG key fragments are basically treated the same as the current key fragments, they were just never previously converted into the more generic key fragments, but could still be used to get through the doors to make the keys

i dont know if that means they would get auto-converted too

code65536 · September 19

Ugh, why is this thing marked as "unique"?

Necrotech_Master · September 19

code65536 wrote: »

Ugh, why is this thing marked as "unique"?

my guess is its like all of the similar containers from the archive, basically forcing you to only buy 1 container at a time and then open it before buying another

its very annoying in the archive when i want to buy like 20 at once lol

EF321 · October 1

50.000-100.000 Tel Var for bound scripts at weekly vendor seems a bit excessive

XSTRONG · October 1

Anyone know if the Alchemy bags for Telwar still give the same amount of flowers on PTS?

Necrotech_Master · October 1

EF321 wrote: »

50.000-100.000 Tel Var for bound scripts at weekly vendor seems a bit excessive

are those the prices if you have not learned it on any toon yet?

in the archive for example the regular prices are like 20-40k archive fortunes per script if you havent learned a script before (which is also excessive), but the prices get reduced significantly (somewhere around 75-90% cheaper) after you have learned it at least once

EF321 · October 1

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

EF321 wrote: »

50.000-100.000 Tel Var for bound scripts at weekly vendor seems a bit excessive

are those the prices if you have not learned it on any toon yet?

in the archive for example the regular prices are like 20-40k archive fortunes per script if you havent learned a script before (which is also excessive), but the prices get reduced significantly (somewhere around 75-90% cheaper) after you have learned it at least once

Oh, right, I forgot about that. I was on alt account that has nothing.
It's 10k-15k-20k for learned scripts.

Necrotech_Master · October 1

EF321 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

EF321 wrote: »

50.000-100.000 Tel Var for bound scripts at weekly vendor seems a bit excessive

are those the prices if you have not learned it on any toon yet?

in the archive for example the regular prices are like 20-40k archive fortunes per script if you havent learned a script before (which is also excessive), but the prices get reduced significantly (somewhere around 75-90% cheaper) after you have learned it at least once

Oh, right, I forgot about that. I was on alt account that has nothing.
It's 10k-15k-20k for learned scripts.

hmm, with those numbers it still sounds a bit high, though the discount still seems to be proportional (80% discount for learned ones), maybe if the cost was cut to about 50% of what it currently is (for both learned and unlearned) that might make more sense

i double checked on the archive fortunes numbers for scripts (unlearned is 10k, 15k, 20k and learned is 2k, 3k, 4k)

in both cases its definitely not worth the unlearned price

RichestGuyinEso · October 15

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Ugh, why is this thing marked as "unique"?

my guess is its like all of the similar containers from the archive, basically forcing you to only buy 1 container at a time and then open it before buying another

its very annoying in the archive when i want to buy like 20 at once lol

This REALLY needs to be changed to buying normal boxes multiple at once.