Wolfchild07 wrote: »

Add a neutralise poisons potion that removes the effects of poisons and makes you immune to poisons for the duration. It adds counterplay and it makes sense.

And an enchantment that gives you purging and immunity from all enchants for the duration? So everytime my enchant front bar procs all, your OD or spell damage or crushing enchants fail when you hit me with them?

Sounds great!!

One defense to counter all the attacks of the same type from any number of attackers for the duration!!!

What could go wrong?

it adds counterplay and it makes as just much sense.

Again I think the easiest fix is to let the snake blood passive reduce the effectiveness of poisons by 75%, and then have sets like curse eater also reduce poison effectiveness.

Don't forget there is a whole CP which drains resources as well, so with the update 14 changes poisons are just too effective.

Current poison counter-play tactics in ESO:
1. Run a Gankblade to make sure your fights are only a few seconds long, minimizing your opportunity to be poisoned.
2. Don't PvP.

Sanctum74 wrote: »

As far as poisons go i can make one with blue entoloma and emetic russula that says:
Increases the cost of your victims magicka abilities by 30%

If i make one with corn flower and colombine it says:
Drains magicka from your target, increasing the cost of their magicka abilities by 30% and restores xx magicka to you per second.

Notice anything different about the 2nd poison??? Despite having the same 30% cost increase it also says Drains magicka from your target!!!

kookster wrote: »

AFAIK this poison actually drains resources, there also may be a bug with it over performing/ messing up your regen. But I havent properly tested it.

Bugloss + Columbine + Blessed Thistle:
"Drains Magicha from your target, increasing the cost of their Magicka abilities by 30%, and restores 238 Magicka to you per second for 3.5 seconds.

Drains Stamina from your target, increasing the cost of their Stamina abilities by 30%, and restores 238 Stamina per second to you for 3,5 seconds.(10s cooldown)"

@Sanctum74 , @kookster this is simply poor naming choice by ZoS, used to differentiate the two poisons.

It's not indicative of what they actually do. Neither of these show the amount of 'drain' that takes place, only the cost increase.

Just like with Elemental Drain, it's not actually transferring or leeching the stat from one person to another. These don't work like "absorb magicka" in the standalone games.

(Hell, the Absorb Magicka glyph in this game doesn't work like absorb magicka in the stand alones.)

Even if they did, the drain rate would be, at most, the same as the gain rate for the receiver, which does not account for what you are describing.

OP, you need video, then maybe it can be identified what is actually happening. My gut says you're getting charged for additional / mulitple casts amidst the knockdowns/CC's and the UI is simply not keeping pace.

Combat Metrics would also show the step by step resource gain/loss and any buffs/debuffs as a result.

Xvorg wrote: »

I've seen some weird things this pelinal's whitestreak retribution aptitude madness weekend, among them, something quite similar to what OP mentions. Certain templar CCedme at half magicka pool, then I had 0 magicka when I broke CC. Having a 38k char, going from around 16 to 0 in one second seemed too CE for my liking.

I've been having issues CC breaking for a week. Not just the usual suspects that can be *ahem* manipulated, but any CC break.

And I'll have magicka, but get the "buzz" noise and I can't cast skills. I'm wondering if health desync has expanded to infect stamina and magicka bars.

To those that say that my Resources were not leeched by my opponent (as described in the OP), what else could have happened then?

It was just me and him, so I was hit with no ballista...

No one threw me a heal...

I don't use an Ice Staff...

I had about 1/4 of my life bar left when I finally got to my feet, but I had no Magicka left...

And of course, I only cast a single ability before being CC'ed...

So once again, if he wasn't leeching my Resources, what else could it have been?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There is counterplay already in the game as poisons are definitely purgeable ... and it's still a surprise to me that many players don't know that.

But, players (not sure if the OP is one of them) think they can't afford a skill slot for Purge ... and would rather complain in the forums than put it on their back bar.

Purge isn't a Templar skill. It's in the Alliance War section which means it's available to every class. If you're in a PvP raid, your healers will likely be running it for you ... my healer does.

But, if you don't have a healer running it, you can still slot it yourself. For non-healer roles, Efficient Purge works great due to the decreased cost ... which is especially nice in this post-Morrowind patch that puts a premium on one's own resource pools.

By the way, purge is also a good counter for Templars that spam Radiant Destruction.

TL;DR - Slot Purge on your back bar and stop whining ...

Lol, look at the cost of even morf Efficiency Purge before. And compare to cost of templars ritual..

I don't know exactly if cost poisons should make only skills more expensive (didn't fifnded a way how to test this for a sure), but had many situations, when on stamina character under cost poisons, u can't breakfree with 10k+ stamina lasts. Why, hell knows, poor indication doesn't give u clear picture. Combat log shows a part of information only. Combat tex... even in FTC it shows sometimes very strange things. It feels that stamina cost poison - increase all stamina things including block, bash, dodge, breakfree. On Ice staff block think magiska cost poison - also makes block for magiska more expencive. But if it works in such way - here a big disbalance between stamina and magiska in such case because almost anyone uses ice-staff mana blocking, but stamina block, bash, dodge, breakfree...

Prime exhibit of why not to necro threads.

Resource poisons used to be a much larger problem back in 2017, now after the CP reworks, people are sustaining indefinitely.

I would take it one step further, in 2024, we need parity between sets that both sap resources and those that provide it.

Wretched Vitality has no counter to it, we need more, better, ways to pressure sustain.