Mends_from_Shadows wrote: »

Once again, EP gets locked just like AD and all of the sudden AD are getting pushed past Alessia. Even numbers and it's a totally different story.

That's generally how most games are with zerg realms

When you get close to even population, they get trounced because they relied on numbers.

AD on this server has this happen...

I'm sure it happens with the other factions on other servers.

But yea, only way AD is able to survive during US primetime is to take everything when everyone is not on during the morning hours.

LGAllastair wrote: »

Nice evening for Vokundein guesting at Auriel's bow. We took EP scrolls back, when I logged off 10 minutes ago we were almost taking Emperor for EP (When I say we I mean the entire EP faction, not just my guild, we had good support, I am sure others will post here with their comments). Vokundein will keep going, I have to leave though, work tomorrow. Thanks for the fun AD.

We dethroned the emperor but DC decided they wanted to start taking EP keeps instead of getting their scrolls back. A lot of us left after we dethroned AD.

Something that should be addressed with the alliance takeover of maps is the gate camping that takes place directly outside of the other factions gates for what appears to be no other reason of AP farming.

Implementing a 0 AP earn zone from the gates would discourage this farming. This zone would go into effect in several circumstances, but would require all scrolls to be controlled by one faction AND the scroll gates would be open.

The zone would be limited to the area inside of the scroll gates.

Just want to say to you Vokundein guys, you're always welcome in Auriel's bow. You guys are some of the only Wabbajack people who come into our campaign and are classy about it. Half of the people from Wabbajack that come to help out have some sort of messiah complex that just pisses everyone in Auriel's Bow off. Good to see it's not all of you Wabbajackers.

Mends_from_Shadows wrote: »

Just want to say to you Vokundein guys, you're always welcome in Auriel's bow. You guys are some of the only Wabbajack people who come into our campaign and are classy about it. Half of the people from Wabbajack that come to help out have some sort of messiah complex that just pisses everyone in Auriel's Bow off. Good to see it's not all of you Wabbajackers.

Not sure what side you are on but there are more than a few DC with the messiah complex that already brought about the down-fall of DC on Auriels Bow...those who actually call the Bow their home

Game is not PvP friendly when making alts since there is only a few good Campaigns out there and will lock you out of them...and of course all the bugs we have to endure.

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Iceman_mat wrote: »

Some people will just not be satisfied....they want everyone in the whole WORLD to play North American Time periods only, just ignore because you will never cure a poor sport mentality...

Not sure where you got the idea anyone was asking for that... I've read the entire thread and the only time anyone came close to that was saying it sarcastically.
The whole point of this thread was to point out there's a population imbalance on the AD side on this server, which has been proven repeatedly. Screenshots clearly show that during NA off-hours AD is at High or Full on Auriel's while every faction on every other server is at Low. No one has suggested Oceanic players shouldn't be allowed to play on NA off hours. I agree, that would be absurd... except no one has said that on this thread, unless I missed a comment.
The only solution to the problem is the same for both sides, AD and EP/DC: to leave a server where you're winning and go to a losing one. For the AD, it's to leave AB and go on another, and for the EP/DC it's to leave another and come on AB. It's ridiculous that either side of this can insult the other for not doing the very thing they're unwilling to do themselves: switch servers. It's like 2 people standing on a cliff calling each other a coward for not jumping.

First of all, if your gonna quote me it an obvious attempt to have a forum internet fight as stated at the end of my original post

Being your flaming.

then please quote it properly. You won't but it usually gives you more of a "ground" to stand on when internet fighting, even though it's still a stupid thing to do, #irony.

Second of all my post (as follows)

When I played in Bow I found that from 8am - 5pm is a complete waste of time. You might take this as rage, you might take this as "he's a noob" I don't really care but when it takes me 4 hours to not only explain but try to get a group to implement a flank tactic and get told to "shut up noob" or "you don't know anything" or whatever for those four hours (yes I counted) to only have it not only implemented but succeed and take one of the scrolls back (yes I timed it and watched it happen) in 30 minutes from after 5pm (seriously) then your problem isn't player numbers it's communication and teamwork.

Which you read as "omg people in this time zone *** suck" isn't that at all it is more on the basis of "Omg people no matter what their time zong can't work together worth a ***" which are similar, I will give you that however the second one gives more of a reason if read carefully then the first statements general grouping.

Thirdly the second part of my post, which tried to avoid an essay like post (ikr), to which it has now failed solidified that with an example soon to come.

Instead of going into an essay like post I will simply show you why you are good or bad in pvp with how you think of this statement I received from another player, in the pvp, during the 4 hours of trying to get a flank maneuver to work.

The example being which I left to the reader but obviously have to explain now because the internet

He said, and I quote (mind you this is in a 3 way war between 3 factions on 1 map, were the variable is AD has more players then us) "BP is not important to DC".

Was that of "Since we have low forces let's use a basic tactic (flanking) to pull another enemy (BP) into fighting with another enemy (AD) so that even though we have lower numbers we can force them to fight each other (enemy of my enemy) so that together (DC + BP) will have equal forces pushing against a similar front (bp wanted a castle, dc wanted the scroll)"

I was trying to show with out blatantly pointing it out (which I failed I guess) to the reader in a kinda "wink wink nudge nudge" in the statement of "BP is not important to DC"

Lastly what i'm trying to convey is that you can nerf the *** out of every aspect in this game you think is op (vamps, ad has more numbers, w.e) but in the end if you are playing a game were people refuse to teamwork or communicate (as found between the hours of 8am - 5pm, est on personal experience) then it won't matter because a team that does the latter will beat you every time.

I'm sorry you had trouble understanding my post and hope this clears it up and you know, It's just my opinion man.

On a side note I would like you to go into AB during an AD peak hour winning jerk fest and see how many of them you can get to "switch" to another campaign when they are already winning one. I'm sure they will switch no problem.


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The wait times when locked out are pretty small. Maybe 5 min from what iv seen with 50 people in front of me.

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

Mends_from_Shadows wrote: »

Just want to say to you Vokundein guys, you're always welcome in Auriel's bow. You guys are some of the only Wabbajack people who come into our campaign and are classy about it. Half of the people from Wabbajack that come to help out have some sort of messiah complex that just pisses everyone in Auriel's Bow off. Good to see it's not all of you Wabbajackers.

To be fair bro, it goes both ways. Its not like some AB "homers" were very friendly in zone chat either.

-Victoria Concordia Crescit "Victory Grows Through Harmony"

It's just extremely evident most EP from wabba come over because their campaign is boring.

shirorxb14_ESO wrote: »

It's just extremely evident most EP from wabba come over because their campaign is boring.

I don't know what makes you think that, Wabba is one of the most balanced campaigns so far with really interesting fights happening. Yes there is zergfesting also but that's in almost every campaign with a decent sized population. What we in Vokundein were looking for when we guested on AB was a truly challenging uphill fight in a highly populated campaign dominated by another alliance. We went there and had a lot of fun but Wabba is still our home. Though expect to see us coming in force from time to time to wreck some havoc

Kriss wrote: »

shirorxb14_ESO wrote: »

It's just extremely evident most EP from wabba come over because their campaign is boring.

I don't know what makes you think that, Wabba is one of the most balanced campaigns so far with really interesting fights happening. Yes there is zergfesting also but that's in almost every campaign with a decent sized population. What we in Vokundein were looking for when we guested on AB was a truly challenging uphill fight in a highly populated campaign dominated by another alliance. We went there and had a lot of fun but Wabba is still our home. Though expect to see us coming in force from time to time to wreck some havoc

Wabbajack balanced? You are joking of course

Population advantage be damned.
We held off AD at the Temple of Ghartok for about an hour tonight. 3 bars against our 1.
It just goes to show what a little organization and a lot of grit can accomplish.
/drink to everyone that fought there until the end!

Auriel's Bow died. DC and EP population has never been over 1 bar all day.

Win is such a strong word. Killed is a better one.

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Those EP who actually want competition left Wabbajack a while ago. Those who are there are those who just want to siege empty keeps or outnumber the enemy by vast amounts.

fixT*

@Lord_Draevan Probbly should merge those those three servers into one huge campaign