BlueRaven wrote: »

Zos has been pretty anti-casual since Necrom came out, so should these “choices” really be that much of a surprise?

Not true. ESO is catering more and more and more to the casual crowd. This thread makes it seem as though there is a small, vocal subset of players that don't want to engage in combat at any level at any time.

Drammanoth wrote: »

Stop the entitlement. How many PvE players get 'collect 100 resource nodes' or 'kill 500 enemies' ?

I play PvE mostly, but because of the fact that I do not suffer from entitlementitis, I take a toon, join a group on Cyro, kill / get killed and leave.

I refuse to be a drama queen - especially in times, where drama is more 'valued' than reason.

As many of us are paying monthly to play this game, we should be "entitled" to have fun playing it. We should be "entitled" to be able to play and experience the game to it's full extent.

I am pretty sure ZOS understands that business model very well. Keep the customer happy.

If I buy a coffee, I am "entitled" to drink it, not half of it, all of it.

Please stop with the bating posts. You mention reason. It is perfectly reasonable to ask for at least one of the endeavors each week to be something which everyone can achieve in the normal course of their gaming experience.

opethmaniac wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

opethmaniac wrote: »

For clarification:
Is it

• 15 killing blows (killed by you)

or

• 15 (assist) kills?

If it is the latter, you should done with it in 10 minutes.

It's the latter.

Then it's ridiculously easy: equip Silver Shards from the Warriors Guild and pepper the Zerg with long-range AE attacks from the castle walls. No special weapon skills needed.

Agreed, it's a non-issue. Especially during MYM.

… I’m sorry, but what is the issue here? The base game Craglorn trials can be completed naked without barely any knowledge of mechanics. The kill 15 players endeavor can be achieved by damaging a player that gets killed — you don’t have to land the killing blow, meaning you can pew pew from the safety of a keep wall or drop oils if the risk of dying is too scary. The only SEMI difficult endeavor here is the district bosses, and only because they might be getting farmed a lot (so your group may end up waiting around for respawns).

Again, what is the issue? These are ultra casual achievements. Are you folks just mad because some of the endeavors occur in PVP zones?

Aurielle wrote: »

Are you folks just mad because some of the endeavors occur in PVP zones?

Is anyone mad here?

Go anywhere, do anything, and play your way in The Elder Scrolls Online, the award-winning online RPG set in the Elder Scrolls universe

In ZOS's own words.

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

Go anywhere, do anything, and play your way in The Elder Scrolls Online, the award-winning online RPG set in the Elder Scrolls universe

In ZOS's own words.

and?

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

...never has ESO been advertised as a PVP experience...

that is false

Killing 15 players took me like 2 minutes. Alessia Bridge did the job

The thing is, that you don't need to deal killing blow, so just use some AOE like Arrow Spray or Caltrops or even a Siege Weapon and it will work.

Edit: What is very weird is time disparity for every of those weekly events. Doing 4 Trials or killing 7 world bosses in IC takes a lot more time.

RetPing wrote: »

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

Go anywhere, do anything, and play your way in The Elder Scrolls Online, the award-winning online RPG set in the Elder Scrolls universe

In ZOS's own words.

I don't understand, what are you trying to say?
i don't see any relation between your post and the topic of this thread.

That I and other "casual" gamers, who do not wish to engage in PVP and Trial content, should not be forced to do so, in order to get our weekly endeavors.

That the choice of weekly endeavor options should not be forcing anyone to have to do content that they do not normally do, in order to gain their weekly endeavors.

That there should have been more choice than PVP, PVP and End Game so that I could play my way and still get my seals.

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

JustLovely wrote: »

15 kills in cyrodiil is super easy and fast. Took me 10 minutes today. If you don't want to PvP, do two normal trials. It will take a lot longer than the 15 kills in cyro, but it's still super easy as well. These are not hard tasks to complete. ESO+ does not entitle a player to free rewards without having to play the game.

I wasn't asking for free rewards and nowhere in any of my posts, did I ever state that I wanted free rewards. I just wanted more balance in the tasks needed to earn the rewards. I am happy to play the game, but never has ESO been advertised as a PVP experience so I fail to see how it is being unreasonable or entitled to expect a non-pvp route to obtaining weekly endeavors that doesn't involve grouping with 12 other people to complete four Trials.

Uhhhh… Cyrodiil and the Alliance War was ESO’s original end game, and was advertised as such… ESO has been a PVP experience from the start. Some of the devs who worked on developing ESO/Cyrodiil also worked on DAoC, another triple faction PVP-focused MMO.

Read this article from 2013: https://www.gameskinny.com/culture/elder-scrolls-online-and-the-legacy-of-daoc/

Aurielle wrote: »

Uhhhh… Cyrodiil and the Alliance War was ESO’s original end game, and was advertised as such… ESO has been a PVP experience from the start.

What does that have to do with offering 2 PvP options and not one for those that don't do PvP?

Dragonnord wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Genuine question, don't take offense please, I just want to understand: are you still playing the game to this day or have you left around Update 35-37 but still keeping up with the forum?

The reason for the my question is..

No offense taken mate.

I'm still playing. Every single day since 2014. So no one will tell me (no offense intended) how the game was and is because I have seen all its process.

Can't believe reading people here saying the game was not nerfed and it's experts that see it easier, when countless patches have been posted showing nerfs to trials, dungeons, hard modes, health pools, enemies damage and so.

The amount of dungeon hard modes nerfed is shameful to be honest, the amount of trial bosses toned down, the amount of mechanics removed, and people still saying the game is the same.

A lot, literally a lot of content has been toned down these past 2-3 years, making the game a lot easier than before all those nerfs.
 

Props to you! You've probably spent more time than me then, and are more experienced. But I doubt you've closed more Dolmens, as I'm almost at 7.000 XD

Jokes aside, I remember veteran players saying the Trials were too hard around Update 35-36. Wasn't the toning down a response to those requests?
It's hard for me to imagine a casual complaining about the difficulty of trifecta RockGrove or DreadSailReef, so I assumed the players that asked for those nerfs were "elites"/pro.
Are these the types of nerfs you are referring to? Maybe I am unaware of others since I don't participate in those activities.

The Necrom chapter was received at launch by the community as a "hard mode overland response". The Seekers got nerfed since then because they used to put in combat everyone and killed a lot of less-powerful players.
Those WBs are undeniably the hardest in the game and the World Event is the most tedious for sure.
I never played and only watched the new Dungeons and Trials but they seem to be reputed as quite hard.

I'm trying to explain why it's hard for me to see a decrease in difficulty in the past year.
Before that? I used to play less and pay less attention, so can't say, but this recent time? I would say it got harder...


I have no personal problem with this endeavors but I think the suggestion someone made to have 5-7 to chose from instead of 3-5 is goooood!

SilverBride wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Uhhhh… Cyrodiil and the Alliance War was ESO’s original end game, and was advertised as such… ESO has been a PVP experience from the start.

What does that have to do with offering 2 PvP options and not one for those that don't do PvP?

I was responding specifically to someone who stated as a fact that ESO has never been advertised as a PVP game.

And LOL, there IS an option for people who don’t do PVP. Four trials. Normal Craglorn trials are some of the easiest content in the game.

See what I mean, person who asked me if anyone was “mad” in this thread? People see two PVP endeavours and the rage blinders just go on.

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

JustLovely wrote: »

15 kills in cyrodiil is super easy and fast. Took me 10 minutes today. If you don't want to PvP, do two normal trials. It will take a lot longer than the 15 kills in cyro, but it's still super easy as well. These are not hard tasks to complete. ESO+ does not entitle a player to free rewards without having to play the game.

I wasn't asking for free rewards and nowhere in any of my posts, did I ever state that I wanted free rewards. I just wanted more balance in the tasks needed to earn the rewards. I am happy to play the game, but never has ESO been advertised as a PVP experience so I fail to see how it is being unreasonable or entitled to expect a non-pvp route to obtaining weekly endeavors that doesn't involve grouping with 12 other people to complete four Trials.

Uhhhh… Cyrodiil and the Alliance War was ESO’s original end game, and was advertised as such… ESO has been a PVP experience from the start. Some of the devs who worked on developing ESO/Cyrodiil also worked on DAoC, another triple faction PVP-focused MMO.

Read this article from 2013: https://www.gameskinny.com/culture/elder-scrolls-online-and-the-legacy-of-daoc/

That might have been the case back in 2013, however a quick scroll through https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/updates shows no mention of PVP outside of one DLC, that being Imperial City.

The vast majority of content in TESO is non PVP so for me, coming into the game, ESO was very much sold as PVE experience and their DLC list further reinforces that point.

Yeah, and I started playing ESO back in Beta, when this WAS advertised as a PVP game, so you were still incorrect in stating that this has “never” been advertised as a PVP game. Never means not ever. The game’s advertising history does not date back to when you personally started playing ESO.