PvP Death Notifications

DustyWarehouse · July 2023

Few questions around this for ZOS or anyone who's been able to test...

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This new chat feature will alert you to who defeated whom, around what area the death occurred, and show alliance ranks of those in the battle.

Does this mean it will show a kill feed of all players regardless of whether you were involved in the fight (like in FPS games), or will it only show those you have actively participated in a fight with?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

These notifications can be toggled on and off in the Social settings.

So I can hide them on my client, but I can't opt-out of the system? Other players will see me in their feed regardless of my settings? Does this also apply when a player is appearing offline?

I feel like the number of hate whispers may increase with this change (although a lot of players already have addons that give this information on PC).

illusiouk · July 2023

I don't want this feature in game, the swords on the map is enough. There needs to be some sort of hide function where your name does not appear in the notification to the whole server.

BalticBlues · July 2023

This feature only is useful if messages are limited to group members.
Otherwise the screen will flood win non-relevant messages. Suggestion:

Death Notification options
- TEAM [faction]
- RADIUS [like 50m or 100m]
- GROUP [your group]
- NONE

StihlReign · July 2023

An option to opt out of the data share and receive would be awesome.

No need to waste server resources since my account is a Nightblade.

~we don't care who's at the fight. we go to the fight.

Taggund · July 2023

illusiouk wrote: »

I don't want this feature in game, the swords on the map is enough. There needs to be some sort of hide function where your name does not appear in the notification to the whole server.

Agree.

sabresandiego_ESO · July 2023

To me these notifications sound awesome in battlegrounds

GooGa592 · July 2023

What's the problem with the current death recap notifications?

Ilsabet · July 2023

Imma die even more just to spam people who have these turned on.

alternatelder · July 2023

What a brilliant way to cause more lag. Surely they thought of the performance first, right?

GooGa592 · July 2023

alternatelder wrote: »

What a brilliant way to cause more lag. Surely they thought of the performance first, right?

I keep thinking of what happened to the scoreboard when they changed the code so that campaigns end on the first of the month instead of a consistent every 30 days.

It's probably better if they just don't mess with the death recap code most likely.

Why try and fix another system that isn't broken to begin with?

DustyWarehouse · July 2023

illusiouk wrote: »

I don't want this feature in game, the swords on the map is enough. There needs to be some sort of hide function where your name does not appear in the notification to the whole server.

I agree, and I'd go further. Ego can be a problem in PvP. I'd like an anonymous campaign where player usernames and character names are replaced with something like "Covenant Dragonknight" or whatever, and the character model is a generic alliance model with generic outfit style. So all we know is the level, rank and alliance of an opponent. Might even help the servers out since they wouldn't have to send every other player's client details about what colour I dyed my RaGada style belt.

acastanza_ESO · July 2023

alternatelder wrote: »

What a brilliant way to cause more lag. Surely they thought of the performance first, right?

There are already addons that display this information (and have been for years) so the game is already reporting this information to clients, ZOS is just making it visible as part of basegame instead of an addon.

Everyone who cares already knows if you died.

JerBearESO · July 2023

I wonder if they simply needed a way to test out the added coding to see how it would impact the servers. Maybe they are trying new coding methods with the aim to have little performance impact and needed a simple way to test that....

Ok that's wild assumption so don't take it seriously, but at least acknowledge that it's always possible there is an underlying motive yet unrecognized.

fizl101 · July 2023

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

What a brilliant way to cause more lag. Surely they thought of the performance first, right?

There are already addons that display this information (and have been for years) so the game is already reporting this information to clients, ZOS is just making it visible as part of basegame instead of an addon.

Everyone who cares already knows if you died.

Not if you play on console

Freelancer_ESO · July 2023

Has anyone actually tested this?

Cyrodiil has been empty both days I went on to try to test it.

Freelancer_ESO · July 2023

Here is a redacted picture of it in action for anyone else who was curious what it looks like.

IncultaWolf · July 2023

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

Here is a redacted picture of it in action for anyone else who was curious what it looks like.

I don't like it, seems unnecessary and some people like being anonymous

Bucky Balls · July 2023

I play mostly in off-line mode.

If this 'feature' breaks that choice I have made to NOT appear online by proclaiming I'm online then it's broken at inception.

Any such invidious 'feature' should ensure those who are in offline mode are automatically excluded and, in addition, there should be an opt-out/in so that those who choose NOT to have their user/character names used like this are also excluded.

This must be clarified - and fixed as described - immediately.

@ZOS_Kevin

I would also like to echo comments made above: this 'feature' does not fix anything. Please spend your time and our money on fixing things which ARE broken and in need of fixing.

Ilsabet · July 2023

Well that'll make the chat box completely unusable during zerg battles. Sounds like a feature to immediately turn off.

Dojohoda · July 2023

Of all the things that might have been done for pvp, what the actual bleep'o'tron? I just made up that word. I don't understand why we would want that feature. It seems like clutter. Is there any advantage to it?

Wuduwasa13 · July 2023

This is only going to amplify toxicity & absolutely spam zone chat, which definitely is not needed given how it is spammed plenty enough by moaners & toxic trolls. What an utterly dreadful addition, please throw it in the bin right now (or limit it to BG’s).

Freelancer_ESO · July 2023

The death notifications trigger if you kill yourself with a potion.They also trigger if you die via slaughterfish.

Edit: The death notification is also triggered by Imperial Law.

Hrafngrimr3 · July 2023

There’s a lot of concern over this regarding player safety, seeing as this could easily invoke player harassment, stalking, and does nothing to reduce the server strain currently plaguing pvp. I sincerely hope that either zos allows players to fully opt out of broadcasting and being broadcasted to or scraps it all together.

Ilsabet · July 2023

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

The death notifications trigger if you kill yourself with a potion.They also trigger if you die via slaughterfish.

Edit: The death notification is also triggered by Imperial Law.

Okay that's actually hilarious.

What does it say if you're killed by slaughterfish?

Freelancer_ESO · July 2023

Ilsabet wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

The death notifications trigger if you kill yourself with a potion.They also trigger if you die via slaughterfish.

Edit: The death notification is also triggered by Imperial Law.

Okay that's actually hilarious.

What does it say if you're killed by slaughterfish?

It does the same thing it does when you kill yourself with a potion where it says your character name defeated your character name with the location of your death.

Note that the testing with my character killing myself I've done solo. Cyrodiil on the PTS as far as I am aware is empty besides me. It is possible that nobody else sees it when you kill yourself or only people within a certain range.

Twig_Garlicshine · July 2023

Used to have this in Dark Age of Camelot.
Pretty funny to watch:
Bestpallyevah was killed by Noobynoobynoo
Imreallyaguy was killed by Urmompvpsbetter

Less naming police back then.
Weird the difference in game populations.
Here - more naming police, more hate whispers, more stalking.
Just weird.

Jaraal · July 2023

illusiouk wrote: »

I don't want this feature in game, the swords on the map is enough. There needs to be some sort of hide function where your name does not appear in the notification to the whole server.

Are you saying that people don't want their PvP inadequacies put on blast to the whole server, complete with a link to their name where they can receive unwanted hate whispers.... from everybody? Just wait until the next PvP event where PvEers will not only dread getting repeatedly killed over and over again, but they can be mortified by seeing the whole embarrassing spectacle of their PvEness broadcast to everybody in the zone!!

Welcome to ZOS' new vision for PvP.

fizl101 · July 2023

Its going to be awful on console, at least (if I understand correctly) you can put different chats in different tabs on pc. On console everything is mixed together. I'd be getting guild chat with 'noobguy jumped too far and didn't notice the cliff' with zone chat etc in one happy scrolling colourful mess.

Dojohoda · July 2023

Is there an option in chat tab creation to not include these notifications? I suppose I could test that myself.

I only want to read chat comments from the players.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom · July 2023

Fkey wrote: »

Used to have this in Dark Age of Camelot.

Yep, distinctly remember this in Darkness Falls.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom · July 2023

Actually looking forward to this change.

Skara has killed NBRatLulz
BigNordDK has killed StreamerABC
JohnnyCheapShot has killed BallGroupRelicRunner
SiegeMemesFTW has killed NoobTryingToPickUpVolendrungA
SiegeMemesFTW has killed NoobTryingToPickUpVolendrungB
SiegeMemesFTW has killed NoobTryingToPickUpVolendrungC
SiegeMemesFTW has killed NoobTryingToPickUpVolendrungD

As long as we have the option to hide the spam if it gets too obnoxious.