My two gold worth.

• Love the Game and able to look past a LOT of things, but VR leveling? WTF!
• Loved leveling 1-50 with the stories in my favorite faction. (Was cool)
• Love having the ability to do other faction story lines.
• HATE leveling VR content with a fraction of the VP.
• HATE not getting ANY EXPLORATION VP for two zones. Umm WHY?
• HATE not having a lot of players around after VR6. (Grouping = Zero)
• HATE needing a map to show me every spot to pickup quests.
• HATE not being able to play my way and forced to do everything to level.
• HATE having to Get 6 flowers, 4 mudcrab legs and wine for only 7k VP.
• HATE killing 3 MOBS after a LONG fight and getting a whopping 114 VP
• HATE doing a "Solo" dungeon and walking out with 1k repairs and 300g.

I love the game as I said, but this VR grind will turn away a LOT of players. Especially after how easy/fast the first 1-50 levels could be completed.

Inco - please stop and think for a while. You dont HAVE to do anything to level up. Because you dont HAVE TO level up. Its not mandatory. It will come in its time, dont think about it. Just enjoy the beauty of Tamriel while it lasts.

@LadyMamoulian‌ & @Kililin‌

Ok so you two have different points of view regarding this topic. We got that.

I personally think the quests are made really good and I enjoy them (almost) all, as I enjoy the landscape and feeling of the game.

but

I also think players should have more choices in how they want to reach VR10 such as Questing, PvP (not really possible atm), Dungeons, stupid grinding, exploration, hell why not even by crafting!?

This thread should not be about wether you want to quest or not, but rather how different people with different playing styles should be able to play the way they want, without feeling left behind.

peace.

So now more content is a bad thing?!

You should enjoy the game and leveling... if you don`t leave don`t ask them to change the game for you....

Chryos wrote: »

For one thing, there should not be any such thing as a v10 mudcrab.

As the TES fans keep saying this is NOT a typical MMO .. TES games have LEVEL SCALING, this is what's happening here.

Chryos wrote: »

For one thing, there should not be any such thing as a v10 mudcrab.

In fact they need to be V10, because it would break my immersion if it would carry a V10 weapon, without being permitted to wield them.

1-50 is crap, boring, too easy and mindless aoe spam.
VR zones are best thing this game has atm, make it even more challenging!

You have to be satisfied with the choice of your class and race. Maybe you level your char to VR10, but I don't think people will level twinks/alternates to VR10 like it is common practice in other MMORPGs when they reached max level and want to try other things.

There is another problem. You don't have fun in leveling a twink as much as in other games. In ESO the number of different quests is relatively small in comparison to other MMORPGs, so you have to do every quest, which means you know them all. Of course, some quests feature choices with other outcomes which you want to try, but I guess most people will find it boring to go through the same quests they did already once.

But maybe they will patch more quests and questlines into the game later on.

For me, it's the forced grind that brings my desire to get beyond vr3 to stand still. I've already done the majority of these quests for alts. Why do I have to push through them again on my main in Vet ranks? Because the devs got lazy and couldn't come up with an original idea? How does this not break immersion? I'm DC...why in the hell would I ever help out the other factions other than total world destruction? It's just cheap filler because they couldn't come up with an end game that worked.

There should be an option to instantly level to v10 so ppl who are in a hurry to get to v10 can do so and get bored to death.

ElliottXO wrote: »

VR leveling is not comparable to 1-50. It takes longer and gives less rewards, that is why people feel frustrated. Besides some people don't want to spoiler the other factions for their alt. You gotta respect that.

Easy fix, roll to 50 in each faction prior to doing the VR content. Or better yet just enjoy all the content of the game on the same character! Easy either way. Honestly this feels more like a cry fest of people who are bemoaning the fact that they are not getting their little 'ding' pat on the back every two hours.

Personally I love it taking a longer time to actually hit a higher rank. I have time and resources and reasons to develop my current rank gear. In the 1-50 game there was never a reason to go for anything bigger than white gear with the exception of maybe three fights.

Tougher mobs, hell yeah bring em on! About time in my opinion. The very fact that I have to adapt my strategy to survive the content absolutely makes my love this game even more then I already so, and I've been playing this thing for over 7 months now. Yeah prior to the inclusion of the PTS on the launcher, we were migrated over to it at whatever point that was when we finally got to keep our testing characters. A little over a month on live and I have to say it's only gotten better with time.

Of course for me, much of this is the fact that now I get to play with family who's seeing the content for the first time. Well for the most part anyways. They did get into the stress tests.

As far as the OP is concerned I have to heartily disagree, especially with their choice of title. The fact that a player can work through all the games content on one character is integral to this being a true elder scrolls experience.

I read people whine that they think this game should have instead simply have made there be 150 levels, instead of 50 plus veteran ranks. I imagine that's simply out of frustration over finding enough skill points to flesh out what they want to do. They want those free hundred skill points. Don't worry those points will be readily available enough in a few weeks once the first of many adventure zones drop. I've got to tell you though, that content makes what you see in the 50+ and even the 50++ zones look tame.

LadyMamoulian wrote: »

It is interesting to see how some whiners are complaining about levelling too fast and having nothing to do

This kind of player has no reason to complain because he has decided to skip most of the content on purpose. Thats ok everyone knows the consequences because its common sense.

and some other whiners about levelling too slow and having too much to do and being bored by it already

This kind of player is missing the point because the game is not about being slow or fast and this pressure comes from him self.

They should quit being stressed out in a game ...
It's a game, so relax and have fun.

Well, the simple answer is - just stay in the middle.

I think the core of your described whiners are not able to think that way.

As well the leveling concept and idea behind TESO was well known before buying it. If i feel the design and level concept will not fullfil my MMO expectations i just don't buy it or i just will give it a try for a couple of weeks without complaining.

For me its hard to believe that players cannot find a reason to like this game or not having fun playing TESO. But it's all there ... If they cannot appreciate it, for them its for sure the wrong game.

I'm hope ZOS is not bother by these posts, as the people who complain always complain. If there were no VR ranks they would have been complaining about the "boring" dungeons and lack of end game content.

VR ranks are there to have something to achiev after you get the max level. If you dont like it dont do them, go PVP or do dungeons. But please stop complaining about every aspect you dont like in the game.

If you cant find any enjoyment in the rest of the game then uninstall and go play another game. Its not like they hold a gun to your head and that you need to play the game.

I did every tiny thing from levels 1-50 in my Faction (Aldmeri Dominion).

All Lore Books, Skyshards, no skipping dialogues etc.

Took me about 5 in game days to do all this, now i am VR2 and going from VR1 to VR2 took me 2 in game days.

Yes, it is much much slower, but i am fine with it. There are tons of Skyshards from the other factions to collect, so no worries with regards to skill points coming in. Not to mention some long quests give you another skill point.

I am OK with this, not fully happy with the slow progress, but just OK. Could had ZOS done it better? offcourse they could, every game could had been done a bit better here and there.

I am not agree with you OP. You need leveling to be hard enough to keep one main character instead of re-rolling or making many alts for crafting and etc..

I am at vr7 now and it is not that hard to level. Just do all your quests and you will get your level.
1 weekend day is more then enough to get 1+ level on any VR rank.