Weekly endeavours

Deter1UK · April 2023

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I agree that this week's weekly endeavors are a poorly crafted menu. This may be the first weekly ever that I may skip.

yes, they usually spread them across the various game areas , one simple overland task (35 world bosses or 200 harvestings etc ) in addition to the above would have satisfied everyone.

ApoAlaia · April 2023

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

Just get your self in a battleground, but please dont sit there and wait till its over, that is so toxic and triggering to us who who actually play them.

I mean, once there why not just participate?

Is not like people have anything to lose, not even the equipment degrades...

Tandor · April 2023

It's a pass for me. I don't mind the options for those who don't do other things like overland and harvesting, but it's a shame there are only 3 options for the weekly endeavours.

Mr_Jord_Joe · April 2023

Unfortunately I suffer from panic syndrome, and generalized anxiety, toc, and these "Trial, Arena, Battlegrounds" content make me anxious, and I've had anxiety and panic attacks because of these, I'm an extremely casual player in content because of my limitations, and this week unfortunately I feel excluded from the possibility of earning these endeavors points... maybe I'll try, but I'm afraid of crises...

method__01 · April 2023

just do the nMal ,took me 1 hour for both runs and ill proly repeat them tomorrow for my NA toons
or do BG with a low level toon,no1 cares about score and usually matches end fast

KlauthWarthog · April 2023

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

Unfortunately I suffer from panic syndrome, and generalized anxiety, toc, and these "Trial, Arena, Battlegrounds" content make me anxious, and I've had anxiety and panic attacks because of these, I'm an extremely casual player in content because of my limitations, and this week unfortunately I feel excluded from the possibility of earning these endeavors points... maybe I'll try, but I'm afraid of crises...

Both Maelstrom Arena and Vateshran Arena are solo instances, and will count for the arena weekly.

You can run either on normal, and take your time. If you pick the quest at the entrance, your progress will get saved on each milestone, so you do not need to complete either on a single sitting.

Out of those, I would suggest starting with Maelstrom, as it is more straight-forward, and it is completely linear.

jaws343 · April 2023

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

Unfortunately I suffer from panic syndrome, and generalized anxiety, toc, and these "Trial, Arena, Battlegrounds" content make me anxious, and I've had anxiety and panic attacks because of these, I'm an extremely casual player in content because of my limitations, and this week unfortunately I feel excluded from the possibility of earning these endeavors points... maybe I'll try, but I'm afraid of crises...

See, this is where I find the "I don't do that content" argument breaks down.

You don't do group content, PVP content, or solo arenas, due to stress. That's fine and perfectly reasonable.

But also, other players don't do:
- Resource picking
- Stealing
- Group Boss killing
- Weapon damaging abilities
- Class damaging abilities
- Quests for that matter

The Endeavors, USUALLY, have a PVP, Group PVE and Solo PVE option. Not every choice out of those three options is going to suit everyone. And it shouldn't suit everyone, they have to draw a line somewhere. Do the things you want to do from the options, or move on from them. The choices can't really accommodate everyone without it no longer being a choice and just being nonsense.

Snamyap · April 2023

bmnoble wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

- The dragon star arena bares on normal difficulty as much of a challenge as a public dungeon in a dlc zone.

I will solo dragonstar arena for this week's endeavour, but that last fight is way harder than any public dungeon fight.

A bit sad that some people apparently don't even want to try normal maelstrom arena, 8 year old solo content. What's the worst that can happen? Death? That's a bit of repair cost. Nobody is gonna make fun of you, because there is nobody else there... 🤷

I can do it just fine on normal, vet I am useless at. I just find doing that boring and would rather use the time for something else.

It is boring, and does take too long. But I still need a few weapons for my sticker book, so I just decided to do it when arena's show up in the endeavours.

ghost_bg_ESO · April 2023

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

Just get your self in a battleground, but please dont sit there and wait till its over, that is so toxic and triggering to us who who actually play them.

I mean, once there why not just participate?

Is not like people have anything to lose, not even the equipment degrades...

that's too much faith in humanity... latest was galen - have seen so many people running to volcanic vent to take dirt nap until it's finished.

Marcus684 · April 2023

I've been putting off running MA for the stickers because I hate trying to remember mechanics, but I guess this gives me incentive to pull up my big boy britches and get to it.

ZDunlain · April 2023

Kallykat wrote: »

I usually sit it out when they are all combat-related, but especially when they are pvp or can't be completed solo. I prefer things I do anyway like harvesting resources.

I agree with you about endeavors not being specific at PvE or PvP but not all people do overland things and are really focus on PvP or PvE.

Mr_Jord_Joe · April 2023

KlauthWarthog wrote: »

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

Unfortunately I suffer from panic syndrome, and generalized anxiety, toc, and these "Trial, Arena, Battlegrounds" content make me anxious, and I've had anxiety and panic attacks because of these, I'm an extremely casual player in content because of my limitations, and this week unfortunately I feel excluded from the possibility of earning these endeavors points... maybe I'll try, but I'm afraid of crises...

Both Maelstrom Arena and Vateshran Arena are solo instances, and will count for the arena weekly.

You can run either on normal, and take your time. If you pick the quest at the entrance, your progress will get saved on each milestone, so you do not need to complete either on a single sitting.

Out of those, I would suggest starting with Maelstrom, as it is more straight-forward, and it is completely linear.

Unfortunately I don't have any of the two dlcs of these arenas...

wolfie1.0. · April 2023

Battlegrounds are easy. Ndsa is easy, nma is easy.

I have found that pvp is only bad if you have an expectation of winning. If you go in wanting to lose as fast as possible its better.

Wolfkeks · April 2023

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

KlauthWarthog wrote: »

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

Unfortunately I suffer from panic syndrome, and generalized anxiety, toc, and these "Trial, Arena, Battlegrounds" content make me anxious, and I've had anxiety and panic attacks because of these, I'm an extremely casual player in content because of my limitations, and this week unfortunately I feel excluded from the possibility of earning these endeavors points... maybe I'll try, but I'm afraid of crises...

Both Maelstrom Arena and Vateshran Arena are solo instances, and will count for the arena weekly.

You can run either on normal, and take your time. If you pick the quest at the entrance, your progress will get saved on each milestone, so you do not need to complete either on a single sitting.

Out of those, I would suggest starting with Maelstrom, as it is more straight-forward, and it is completely linear.

Unfortunately I don't have any of the two dlcs of these arenas...

Dragonstar Arena is also an arena you can do solo (or you bring a companion if you have one) - though I would suggest making your build a bit tankier than normal.
I personally would suggest a sorc with the flappy bird healing morph - there might also be a guide somewhere for soloing that arena with builds and tips (gonna post it later if I find it).

Mik195 · April 2023

Well, I've been waiting for years for ZOS to change the battlegrounds quest to be talk to the guy instead of playing a battleground, but they haven't. So apologies in advance for anyone who gets stuck on a team with me-I'll be worthless. Maybe ZOS wants to kill battlegrounds since this seems to be a way to make it miserable for players this week.

And for those who think arenas are easy - ive been working on Maelstrom for 5 years and still can't complete and I only managed Dragonstar once after working on it for 18 months. I'm delighted you find the simple, but that's not true for all of us.

jaws343 · April 2023

Mik195 wrote: »

Well, I've been waiting for years for ZOS to change the battlegrounds quest to be talk to the guy instead of playing a battleground, but they haven't. So apologies in advance for anyone who gets stuck on a team with me-I'll be worthless. Maybe ZOS wants to kill battlegrounds since this seems to be a way to make it miserable for players this week.

And for those who think arenas are easy - ive been working on Maelstrom for 5 years and still can't complete and I only managed Dragonstar once after working on it for 18 months. I'm delighted you find the simple, but that's not true for all of us.

Normal Maelstrom? Normal Maelstrom is easier than most DLC public dungeons.

RMW · April 2023

Mik195 wrote: »

Well, I've been waiting for years for ZOS to change the battlegrounds quest to be talk to the guy instead of playing a battleground, but they haven't. So apologies in advance for anyone who gets stuck on a team with me-I'll be worthless. Maybe ZOS wants to kill battlegrounds since this seems to be a way to make it miserable for players this week.

And for those who think arenas are easy - ive been working on Maelstrom for 5 years and still can't complete and I only managed Dragonstar once after working on it for 18 months. I'm delighted you find the simple, but that's not true for all of us.

mmh I can't speak for bgs as I don't play them much anymore but if you tell us what the problems with Maelstorm and Dragonstar are we can def try to help you with that.

AzuraFan · April 2023

When I saw the choices I thought, "Ugh." But then I did the four battlegrounds. Doesn't take long. I may suck at it, but at least I'm there to occupy the opposing team's attention. Because there are probably a lot of PvE'ers going in this week, I actually did okay in a couple of them.

Even though I generally don't PvP, I do participate in the battlegrounds when I join them. It can be fun as long as there's nobody toxic screaming in group chat about how the team is sucking (yes, there are actually players who do that). In one group this morning there was a helpful person, which is always nice to see.

thedocbwarren · April 2023

Sorry, just my opinion, but these are the most boring tasks in the game. Take way too long, not fun, and provide nothing for my desire to play. A shame for this week. Guess, for me, it would be equally a pass if all PvP.

spartaxoxo · April 2023

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Weren't they saying that daily / weekly endeavours were supposed to be done "just by normally playing the game" ? I mean a lot of people are doing just overland / questing content. So for many it will be doing "abnormal" content lol.

Anyway, since it says "Complete" (and thankfully not "win"), then I am gonna AFK Battlegrounds 4x times. Is that what you wanted ZOS ?

They don't mean every player or even type of player will always get it done normally every week. They mean that they will be activities that some players can get done in the background. There will probably be some trials and battleground's players pretty happy this week. As that is content a segment of the playerbase runs pretty regularly.

Arenas on the other hand....

markulrich1966 · April 2023

so all you have to do is to find a mate who groups up with you for a BG? You play the lute, he plays the drum, and you cannot be kicked from the group as this would require 3 votes? This would be an easy weekly then.

spartaxoxo · April 2023

AzuraFan wrote: »

Even though I generally don't PvP, I do participate in the battlegrounds when I join them. It can be fun as long as there's nobody toxic screaming in group chat about how the team is sucking (yes, there are actually players who do that). In one group this morning there was a helpful person, which is always nice to see.

I actually had one really toxic parent in my battleground once. They kept telling their like 4-5 year old, maybe, IDK kid had that baby voice but could use words, that I was bad. I was stupid. He got the kid to say "that's stupid," about how I was playing. What's funny is he was complaining that I, as a tank, wouldn't aggro the other players. That's right aggro the other players. He was also complaining about me hanging back and waiting for everyone to respawn instead of rushing in. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to argue with him in front of his kid.

The next match I was on a different team and the player was like "Oh we winning this match boys! Spartaxoxo is on our team. My group and I started leaving you alone because you just don't die!"

I felt like I had the full experience that day. The toxic players and the ones that hype you up. It was really something. It also made me realize that at least some of the toxic pvpers I had run into all along may have actually been toxic pve'ers who were being toxic because they had no idea what they were doing or looking at, they just knew they were losing and wanted to blame someone else.

Ashryn · April 2023

Well...this will sadly be the first week that I will skip...

Yes, I've completed Maelstrom a few times before, but that was at the cost of my health (I have Fibromyalgia). Trials are out for the same reason. I have really NO desire to do Battlegrounds and my ethics do not permit me to just AFK it.

markulrich1966 · April 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

What's funny is he was complaining that I, as a tank, wouldn't aggro the other players. That's right aggro the other players.

*lol* have to laugh, I'm first sergeant in cyro, but not really a fan of 1vs1 (prefer the strategic aspect).
Just imagine I would stand in front of an experienced cyro player with my small woodelf tank, using puncture trying to taunt him... hillarious

Jack-0 · April 2023

I mean, you can do the single player arenas on normal, they aren't very hard and don't require very much dps at all, or you could do quite literally any trials on normal, also really very easy and the latter is entirely puggable.

The BGs one suggests we've got a BG weekend coming this weekend (here's hoping). If you do happen to opt for BGs, please actually participate, even if you're rubbish, I'd much rather someone who's not very good but at least tries, vs some cantankerous *** who lets their team down by literally not moving from the initial spawn point.

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What I think's actually worth moaning about is the horrible bias every day and week towards damage dealers. Where is the taunt 250 enemies weekly? Or heal 250 allies? Why is it always DD-centric? Some of us main supports, you know!

markulrich1966 · April 2023

Ashryn wrote: »

Well...this will sadly be the first week that I will skip...

Yes, I've completed Maelstrom a few times before, but that was at the cost of my health (I have Fibromyalgia). Trials are out for the same reason. I have really NO desire to do Battlegrounds and my ethics do not permit me to just AFK it.

yeah the ethics, had them too in the past. Though you just have to get aware, that your co-players would mercilessly slaughter you if you were in the random opposite team. I have an alt of each enemy faction, and if I play them e.g. to get tickets in cyro at midyear mayhem, my allies of my main character have no issues attacking me, even if I play defensive.
There is no ethics or moral in PVP. So I guess it is a valid tactic to think just strategically, and AfK is a tempting solution for this unattractive choice of weeklies.

Kendaric · April 2023

jaws343 wrote: »

Mik195 wrote: »

Well, I've been waiting for years for ZOS to change the battlegrounds quest to be talk to the guy instead of playing a battleground, but they haven't. So apologies in advance for anyone who gets stuck on a team with me-I'll be worthless. Maybe ZOS wants to kill battlegrounds since this seems to be a way to make it miserable for players this week.

And for those who think arenas are easy - ive been working on Maelstrom for 5 years and still can't complete and I only managed Dragonstar once after working on it for 18 months. I'm delighted you find the simple, but that's not true for all of us.

Normal Maelstrom? Normal Maelstrom is easier than most DLC public dungeons.

That is well and good... but I can't handle most of the bosses in any DLC public dungeons either Some of us just can't handle things like that, be it due to old age and slow(er) reflexes, health issues or a number of other things.

Heck, I've had trouble with most DLC story end bosses.

Trejgon · April 2023

I am unsure about people finding normal diff maelstrom difficult. I was able to clear one without much of issue (had to google mechanics on the argonian behemoth, and the light relic thingies) on a sorcerer, with a bow, build for full stealth, with a mixture of tankiness. I am no skilled player, my APM is low, my weave was and is kinda crap (I am using light attacks and skills inexchangably, but definitelly not at GCD) and everything combat related this build can do, oakensorc can do better, while not even putting half the effort.

So considering above, I have hard time wrapping my head around concept of people actually struggling with that particular arena.....

AzuraFan · April 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I actually had one really toxic parent in my battleground once. They kept telling their like 4-5 year old, maybe, IDK kid had that baby voice but could use words, that I was bad. I was stupid. He got the kid to say "that's stupid," about how I was playing. .

That's terrible that he would involve his kid like that.

Jack-0 wrote: »

If you do happen to opt for BGs, please actually participate, even if you're rubbish, I'd much rather someone who's not very good but at least tries, vs some cantankerous *** who lets their team down by literally not moving from the initial spawn point.

That's good to know because I'm not very good in them, but I do participate. Like I said, I'm at least someone the other teams have to waste time on. I do get some kills and carry the ball occasionally, etc. But I'm a PvE player and I know I suck at PvP.

AvalonRanger · April 2023

What kind of time wasting people can do this?

I'm working hard from morning to the night as game graphic designer...