I am once again posting about reset timers

Silverfaerie · March 2023

and before European players say anything.. your reset time is actualy perfect for me. its brilliant. its fantastic, please keep it as is. I'm posting about US reset timer while also posing a question to other fellow US players.

do any of you actualy find it convenient or helpful, for it to be early in a morning instead of late at night for us? if yes, why? do you like only having 4 hours in the morning what is ostensibly before leaving for work, so that cuts into the getting ready/sleep time for the last day of the events and its tickets? exactly what was the reasoning to set it for 6 am?

I'm thinking this as I'm doing only US dailies this morning before leaving for work and because it just so happens that EU reset before I went to bed, so I was able to take care of my character there and not worry about that damn 3 minutes login timer this morning and it suddenly hit me just how great it would have been if I could do the same with my US characters...

so... why exactly isn't US reset at 11pm est the way EU is?

thanks

TaSheen · March 2023

It's perfect the way it is for me. I play from about 7 am to about 2 pm. However, late at night would also work for me - I don't play in the evening, but rollover in the evening would still be fine. EU also works fine for me for that reason.

I'm retired, have been since 2005 (third time's the charm I guess) and since starting WoW after retiring, then going on to RIFT and now ESO, this is mostly how I've played (though family and friends did get together to raid in WoW three nights a week - because other than me, everyone worked days).

zaria · March 2023

For central European players the new reset times are perfect as it in the middle of the night so then I wake up I can just do endeavors, daily event quests and crafting writs.
The old time was 07:00 so it was just an short window before going to work.
Then I come home from work its tend to be time for guild stuff like PvP or trials or other group play.
This was much worse during summer time as reset shifted to 08:00 who was to late.
But it was dangerous to delay stuff to next morning in case you sleep to you have to run, yes tended to do for crafting writs as missing them is not crisis.

Necrotech_Master · March 2023

i kind of preferred the reset when it was at 1-2 am for me (it varied depending on daylight savings, and for reference im EST), but it was nice being able to get the next days endeavors done before going to bed

the thing i do like though is that everything now resets at the same time lol, which makes it easier to keep track of lol

wolfie1.0. · March 2023

I prefer the reset timer as is for US. The problem for me is that I get off work late and am on MT. The 11pm reset time made it so that I would rush to get everything done before reset, then when reset happened I would be tempted to start the next days, rinse and repeat. The problem with that is that I would lose the ability to complete dailies if I did dungeons with friends or other content. Then I would lose sleep by impulsively staying up later to try to get more done post reset.

With the change, I have enough time to get what I want done with leftover and reset is far enough away that I actually get more sleep.

My one requested change would be to apply event start and end times to be on the same schedule.

Amottica · March 2023

Any time slot will be great for some and bad for others.

As to why this is set to 11 PM for the east coast, Zenimax is on the east coast.

spartaxoxo · March 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i kind of preferred the reset when it was at 1-2 am for me (it varied depending on daylight savings, and for reference im EST), but it was nice being able to get the next days endeavors done before going to bed

the thing i do like though is that everything now resets at the same time lol, which makes it easier to keep track of lol

This is how I feel but also I am very annoyed about the last day of event tickets now only having a 4 hour window to collect.

Necrotech_Master · March 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i kind of preferred the reset when it was at 1-2 am for me (it varied depending on daylight savings, and for reference im EST), but it was nice being able to get the next days endeavors done before going to bed

the thing i do like though is that everything now resets at the same time lol, which makes it easier to keep track of lol

This is how I feel but also I am very annoyed about the last day of event tickets now only having a 4 hour window to collect.

yeah that is arguably the worst thing about the change, i usually would stay up just a tad later to get the last days tickets, but now thats no longer going to be possible for me

calitrumanb14_ESO · March 2023

I do not like the new timers, especially on maintenance days, as you cannot do endeavors until after maintenance, when I am at work. It's not always possible to get online later in the day (for me).

huntgod_ESO · March 2023

Nope I would definitely prefer a 1-2am reset EST...I also wish Gladiator/Rewards of the Worthy/Seigemaster boxes were on the daily reset, they are still on a 20 hr rolling timer.

Silverfaerie · March 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Any time slot will be great for some and bad for others.

As to why this is set to 11 PM for the east coast, Zenimax is on the east coast.

its set for 11pm est... for EU players. for US players? its set for 6 am est. and it used to be 2 am est (or 1am to account for daylight savings)

11pm est would make perfect sense for US, wouldn't it.... but its EU time. US servers get 4 hours to do last day of the event... or no time at all if ZoS continues with tradition of running maintenance on the last day of event and starting it at 4am.

I'm on east coast btw, and while my work schedule starts at 11am and I tend to go to sleep around 1:30 am or so - its still fairly close to standard work schedule of majority of people in US, Especially if you account for time zone differences between east and west coast (since my 11 am would be 8am for west coast... so they have it even worse then I do as on the last day of event, they would either have to stay up past 3am, or get up extra early to fit those last tickets in.

spartaxoxo · March 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i kind of preferred the reset when it was at 1-2 am for me (it varied depending on daylight savings, and for reference im EST), but it was nice being able to get the next days endeavors done before going to bed

the thing i do like though is that everything now resets at the same time lol, which makes it easier to keep track of lol

This is how I feel but also I am very annoyed about the last day of event tickets now only having a 4 hour window to collect.

yeah that is arguably the worst thing about the change, i usually would stay up just a tad later to get the last days tickets, but now thats no longer going to be possible for me

Same here. I haven't done the math on how many tickets we'd be losing but I know it's a significant portion. It's gotta me more than 10. And I just don't get it because it doesn't seem like the average timeframe of NA players was taken into account for the NA server reset.

There's no such thing as a convenient time for everyone, but you'd think they'd do general late night business hours since that catches the majority of people.

Oh well, C'est La Vie.

Amottica · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Any time slot will be great for some and bad for others.

As to why this is set to 11 PM for the east coast, Zenimax is on the east coast.

its set for 11pm est... for EU players. for US players? its set for 6 am est. and it used to be 2 am est (or 1am to account for daylight savings)

11pm est would make perfect sense for US, wouldn't it.... but its EU time. US servers get 4 hours to do last day of the event... or no time at all if ZoS continues with tradition of running maintenance on the last day of event and starting it at 4am.

I'm on east coast btw, and while my work schedule starts at 11am and I tend to go to sleep around 1:30 am or so - its still fairly close to standard work schedule of majority of people in US, Especially if you account for time zone differences between east and west coast (since my 11 am would be 8am for west coast... so they have it even worse then I do as on the last day of event, they would either have to stay up past 3am, or get up extra early to fit those last tickets in.

Are you suggesting many North American players should have a reset time of 7 PM or 8 PM? I ask because that is exactly what is being suggested with an 11 PM east coast time.

My vote is no. I would suggest a 6 AM reset time would be far better.

TaSheen · April 2023

I personally preferred reset in the middle of the night. But 6am works for me as well - because I'm retired so it doesn't matter for me.

For many others, the new time is..... unworkable and unwieldy.

SeaGtGruff · April 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i kind of preferred the reset when it was at 1-2 am for me (it varied depending on daylight savings, and for reference im EST), but it was nice being able to get the next days endeavors done before going to bed

the thing i do like though is that everything now resets at the same time lol, which makes it easier to keep track of lol

Earlier today I was thinking that having one reset time for just about everything-- dailies, enlightenment, hireling mails, fence and laundry limits, riding lessons, etc.-- must be something of a relief on the servers.

BetweenMidgets · April 2023

So what time DO they reset at now?

ArchMikem · April 2023

I, don't even pay attention. I don't grind the endeavors, I just conplete them by accident.

TaSheen · April 2023

US - 6 am MDT (so um.... 4 am EDT). EU - I'm not really sure - I get on EU around 7 am MDT - and the remaining time on the riding reset is around 12 hours.

deejayvee · April 2023

It's 8pm for east coast Australians, and that's inconvenient but we're small pop so I don't expect it to change.

It would be nice if there was some way that you could set reset times for your account so everyone would be happy!

TaSheen · April 2023

deejayvee wrote: »

It's 8pm for east coast Australians, and that's inconvenient but we're small pop so I don't expect it to change.

It would be nice if there was some way that you could set reset times for your account so everyone would be happy!

Very true!

I'm.... not sure this company could - uh - manage that level of custom time setup.

fleetingyouth_ESO · April 2023

I don't really think the problem is the new time it's the event end time window. More people don't log in the morning on the last day than probably do. The new time ending in the AM most likely works best for the vast majority of players. Playing in the morning before work is not nearly as common for players.

If events ended at the reset time none of this would be an issue. You would have from 6am to 6am to get the last days tickets.

It doesn't make sense to change all the reset times for one thing that doesn't align. As said above no time will please everyone but changing the event time to line up with the rest of reset timers would help those who feel like they miss the early morning stuff.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan · April 2023

deejayvee wrote: »

It's 8pm for east coast Australians, and that's inconvenient but we're small pop so I don't expect it to change.

It would be nice if there was some way that you could set reset times for your account so everyone would be happy!

It's 2pm for me (Melbourne, Australia) but I play on EU server. I'm also used to ZOS doing maintenance at bad hours for me, so the actual reset time doesn't really bother me, I just live with it.

(yes, I know maintenance and daily resets are different things)

SeaGtGruff · April 2023

TaSheen wrote: »

US - 6 am MDT (so um.... 4 am EDT). EU - I'm not really sure - I get on EU around 7 am MDT - and the remaining time on the riding reset is around 12 hours.

Actually it's 6 AM EDT for NA, I think? Or 5 AM EST. In UTC time, that would be 10:00 UTC.

As for PC EU, it's 11 PM EDT, or 10 PM EDT. In UTC time, that would be 03:00 UTC.

DragonRacer · April 2023

I like that the daily login reward is no longer 7/8pm Eastern as that was the most awkward thing in the world.

As far as everything else now being on the 5/6am Eastern clock, it doesn’t really affect me. I don’t tend to stay up late so I rarely caught the 1/2am Eastern resets. And I work from home so I do have the advantage of logging in early save for maintenance days. So nothing has changed for me with the time syncing.

Hotdog_23 · April 2023

Like the new reset time but understand it doesn't work for everyone.

Stay safe

Flameweaver1951 · April 2023

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

Amottica · April 2023

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

Case in point, when the daily pledges reset, and pretty much everything else that is not solo, and I am grouped with my friends who live in New York and Florida they will be starting the pledges a couple of hours ahead of when my pledges reset. So such a design would be a poor design as it splits friends and groups used to running together.

While there is another aspect of such a design that would bring a negative to the game, that alone is reason enough to keep a standard time for each server to reset.

peacenote · April 2023

As some others have said...

I don't like the change from 1/2am to 5/6am est. Both because of the loss of time to get in the last ticket, and because the earlier time allowed for staying up late or getting up early. It felt more flexible. Even if you consider Pacific (let's see if I do this right, I'm horrible at this) that meant 11pm pst previously which at least gave many schedules the option to stay up late. Now the stay up late option is really gone for some US time zones, and for people who WERE getting up early (I had a friend who did his daily login around 5am) it is now too late.

Plus you could mix and match while now it doesn't really work anymore. For example, someone on EST who normally plays mid morning could come back later if they missed their window, maybe 11pm, and then also get up early (7am, say) if they had plans the next night. But now it is pushed too far in the morning for that for EST and really even CST.

I have no issue with the daily login time aligning with the rest and if I had a magic wand, I would want JUST that to change from 8pm to 2am.

To the OP's specific question, in my personal opinion, 2am > 11pm > 6am (all EST), but when thinking of all US time zones and giving them flexibility 2am est just seems far better than 11pm which is too early for pst or 6am which causes the problems described.

I too will acknowledge I know everything can't please everyone. Also I know that not just US players are in the US time zones. But for me and my friends, in EST, this is a situation of making it worse/annoying when leaving it alone would have been preferred. Liked it just fine the other way.

sup · April 2023

Happy that timers are consolidated, but I also liked the old time on PC-NA much more--mostly because I could get up and grab my last tickets before work.

NoSoup · April 2023

I got caught by surprise after having a wee break from the game (thanks elden ring & gow) but the new resets work better for us Aussies. Its now 8pm on the east coast which makes it a lot easier to just do dailies once every two days. Log on at 7:30, do them then redo them half an hour later. It's great.

rpa · April 2023

I do plenty of dailies but do not have any compulsion to do every daily task in the gaem so I reset when I'm sleeping works fine for me.