I am once again posting about reset timers

MasterSpatula · April 2023

I dislike the change, but I'll get used to it, I suppose.

Flameweaver1951 · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

heaven13 · April 2023

Do events still end at 10am EST? If so, definitely seems worse in that regard for people who wanted to stay up late to grab last tickets. 6am is cutting into maintenance time and someone may or may not get a chance to grab tickets if maintenance even ends early enough to do so.

tomofhyrule · April 2023

heaven13 wrote: »

Do events still end at 10am EST? If so, definitely seems worse in that regard for people who wanted to stay up late to grab last tickets. 6am is cutting into maintenance time and someone may or may not get a chance to grab tickets if maintenance even ends early enough to do so.

Yes. Players on the NA servers will have a grand total of four hours for the last 'day' of an event, and that's assuming we don't have a maintenance (which starts 1-2 hours before the reset)

There's always been discussion of how inconvenient it is to get tickets at either end of the event, and now we've traded inconvenience for EU (there was 8 hours between reset and event end, but in the middle of the workday) for major inconvenience for NA (only 4 hours between reset and event end at the beginning of the workday). What we should have is events starting and ending at the reset, because that would just stop any problems with partial days.

Amottica · April 2023

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

spartaxoxo · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

Amottica · April 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Any time slot will be great for some and bad for others.

As to why this is set to 11 PM for the east coast, Zenimax is on the east coast.

its set for 11pm est... for EU players. for US players? its set for 6 am est. and it used to be 2 am est (or 1am to account for daylight savings)

11pm est would make perfect sense for US, wouldn't it.... but its EU time. US servers get 4 hours to do last day of the event... or no time at all if ZoS continues with tradition of running maintenance on the last day of event and starting it at 4am.

I'm on east coast btw, and while my work schedule starts at 11am and I tend to go to sleep around 1:30 am or so - its still fairly close to standard work schedule of majority of people in US, Especially if you account for time zone differences between east and west coast (since my 11 am would be 8am for west coast... so they have it even worse then I do as on the last day of event, they would either have to stay up past 3am, or get up extra early to fit those last tickets in.

Are you suggesting many North American players should have a reset time of 7 PM or 8 PM? I ask because that is exactly what is being suggested with an 11 PM east coast time.

My vote is no. I would suggest a 6 AM reset time would be far better.

this was our original reset time incidentally. for east coast. or 1am est that it was for everything else. before the change to 6am est. what I'm suggesting is that we need to have more then 4 hours to complete last day of the event among other things. because those very same people for whom reset would be at 7 or 8 pm would incidentally benefit the most when it comes to having an opportunity to complete event without rushing or just miss out on the tickets all together.

of course another option is just to make events start with the rest of the resets instead of being set to 10 am. but what I'm saying is that current reset? is not great.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

wolfie1.0. · April 2023

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

US - 6 am MDT (so um.... 4 am EDT). EU - I'm not really sure - I get on EU around 7 am MDT - and the remaining time on the riding reset is around 12 hours.

Actually it's 6 AM EDT for NA, I think? Or 5 AM EST. In UTC time, that would be 10:00 UTC.

As for PC EU, it's 11 PM EDT, or 10 PM EDT. In UTC time, that would be 03:00 UTC.

Ya IN PDT it's 3 am

spartaxoxo · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population.

Which is what makes 1 AM an ideal time to reset.

You want to reset when the population is low. And also want to reset based off the average lifestyle of the server's population.

The average person would have an easier time staying up a bit later if they are intentionally trying to catch a reset. This is why most leisure activities and businesses are open later rather than earlier.

Majority of people however are asleep during that time period, so the reset happening while they are consistently asleep means that a new day of dailies will be available when they awaken.

This is why many games reset at times of low population when people are asleep.

deejayvee · April 2023

NoSoup wrote: »

I got caught by surprise after having a wee break from the game (thanks elden ring & gow) but the new resets work better for us Aussies. Its now 8pm on the east coast which makes it a lot easier to just do dailies once every two days. Log on at 7:30, do them then redo them half an hour later. It's great.

Yeah, not really. 8pm gives very little margin for error if you're late coming home from work, for example. Great that it works for you, but having the reset time in the middle of prime time is not good for many people.

But as I said before, our low pop means we will have to live with it unless they manage to implement multiple reset times for timezone or per account.

maximusrex45 · April 2023

I like that the resets no longer happen at the end of prime time and better line up with a typical sleep day.

Amottica · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

maximusrex45 wrote: »

I like that the resets no longer happen at the end of prime time and better line up with a typical sleep day.

whose typical sleep day?

Amottica · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

spartaxoxo · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

Yes. 2AM Eastern was the old reset time (became 1 am when we fall back, 2 am when we spring forward). It worked perfectly. I agree this would be the perfect time.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

As an Australian player, I'm used to ZOS doing things at inconvenient times, but the time of day of the resets doesn't affect me in the slightest. If something needs to be done daily, then I do it daily: the only rule I follow is not to let more than 1 reset occur between my daily tasks.

Amottica · April 2023

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Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

I had noted the low population times and someone replied

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

I was not arguing. I merely pointed out a fact based on real information instead of opinions.

I will also repeat what noted earlier, that there is no perfect time and never will be as any given time will affect someone negatively because it sits in the middle of their playtime. There are times that affect the least number of players which is what I noted.

Marto · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

so... why exactly isn't US reset at 11pm est the way EU is?

Could be for a variety of reasons

Logistics/Business reason: Server load. It puts an extra strain on the server to have the reset happen when many players are online.

Could also be because of previous issues with events and endeavors. I don't remember the specifics, but there were a few gamebreaking bugs and duplication glitches related to players obtaining certain items between 0:00 and 3:00 AM on maintenance day. By moving maintenance to 3AM, ZOS ensures no reset-related bugs happen on maintenance day because maintenance day technically has no reset.

Creative reason: ZOS may consider that players logging in at 11:45 PM, doing one set of daily writs or quests, then doing another set of daily writs at 0:15 AM is an undesirable player behavior.

Maybe they think this leads to a poor in-game economy by flooding a player's inventory with way too many materials.

Maybe they think it reinforces addictive behaviors that lead to players feeling burnt out. You spend too much time making money, and not enough time spending that money and time on item sets, furniture, motifs, or any other in-game activity the devs would rather have you participating in. Not to mention you're purposely falling asleep late.

Could be one or many of these things.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

Amottica wrote: »

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Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

I had noted the low population times and someone replied

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

I was not arguing. I merely pointed out a fact based on real information instead of opinions.

I will also repeat what noted earlier, that there is no perfect time and never will be as any given time will affect someone negatively because it sits in the middle of their playtime. There are times that affect the least number of players which is what I noted.

no, what you did was point out INCOMPLETE and HIGHLY LIMITED statistical fact (I forgot to bring this up, but while you could in theory infer that behavior outside of steam would be similar to that inside steam, its an assumption NOT an irrefutable fact either - a lot of people do NOT use steam to play on pc, let alone console - AND your statistics were for the last 2, day, a sample that is far too small and far too recent) and THEN you made a conclusion that agued with MINE - that was not in any way factual, but rather your personal opinion/extrapolation. while also ignoring facts that US server players had 4 hours shaved off their last days of the event window. which is an actual fact that is not statistically limited.

you are also claiming that this reset timer will affect the least amount of people and I'm showing you that that is patently untrue. and also an opinion NOT a fact.

Silverfaerie · April 2023

vsrs_au wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

As an Australian player, I'm used to ZOS doing things at inconvenient times, but the time of day of the resets doesn't affect me in the slightest. If something needs to be done daily, then I do it daily: the only rule I follow is not to let more than 1 reset occur between my daily tasks.

I assume you don't participate in events, or are lucky enough to have your play window to coincide with the measly 4 hours we get to do the last day of the event?

Onomos · April 2023

Good thing I checked this thread. I logged in 15 minutes before the reset and was annoyed I didn't get the last tickets. Now I know the reset is at 4am local. Appreciate the info.

Veloth_Redothril · April 2023

So maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole min/max ticket thing or the global timer changed hasn't gone live on consoles yet but the jesters festival ends at 10:00am as always where I am and I just today's tickets at like 9:20am so I'm not seeing a difference.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

As an Australian player, I'm used to ZOS doing things at inconvenient times, but the time of day of the resets doesn't affect me in the slightest. If something needs to be done daily, then I do it daily: the only rule I follow is not to let more than 1 reset occur between my daily tasks.

I assume you don't participate in events, or are lucky enough to have your play window to coincide with the measly 4 hours we get to do the last day of the event?

You assume incorrectly. I participate in events. If reset times, event end times and maintenance times conflict somehow, I just deal with it.

Mik195 · April 2023

I used to play on both NA and EU, but with a 9PM EU rollover, I've stopped playing on EU. I'll do crafting but 9 PM is both too early (if I wait to do things but work goes long) and too late (only an hour before getting ready to sleep).

Amottica · April 2023

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

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Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

Since I have demonstrated with real information that the early AM between 2 AM and 6 AM has the lowest population then it would work perfectly to have a 2 AM reset time which would give everyone a full 8 hours before the 10 AM cutoff for the event. iirc, that is almost what it was before the change.

I'm not arguing that 2am is not a perfect time. I'm saying that 11pm est is STILL better then 6am, or more specifically I'm arguing that 6am is an AWFUL reset time for vast VAST majority of people on US servers and tbh, even if you are Australian player - 2am or 1 am (depending on status of daylight savings) est - would STILL be a better option.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to argue here, or why the actual reset timers or the idea that people adjust their playtimes to aforementioned reset timers is not real enough information for you, but /shrug

I had noted the low population times and someone replied

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Silverfaerie wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Flameweaver1951 wrote: »

I'm XBOX EU player and I don't have any issues with the reset timers, but I what don't understand is why, apparently, ZOS have treated planet Earth as if its flat. USA is 5 to 8 hours behind UK and Australia/NZ is 9/11 hours ahead.

With servers in different global reagions how hard can it be to have "localised" reset timers.

@Flameweaver1951

If the suggestion is that the reset time be set for my timezone instead of a standardized time for the server then the answer is simple, it would not be good for the game as it would not be good for players.

No I meant the localised timers be set according to whichever server region you hook up to and not where you are located. US located servers should be on a US time zone, EU servers on a European timezone and Austraila/NZ and far East on one of their localised time zones. The point was that server locations, not player location should determine the reset timers.

Ok and that is the correct way to do it. Even then it’s best it’s set during the AM for each server region to impact the smaller number of players.

AM impacts the greatest amount of players. More people can stay up a little late than get up extra early, and that is why the far more businesses stay open later than open up extra early. This is because of people's jobs and schooling.

In addition, late night means more people have the opportunity to get event tickets.

@spartaxoxo

Looking at the Steam charts for the past 48 hours it shows that between 1 AM and 5/6 AM ESO has the lowest population. We also know that during the mid to later PM hours, we have the highest population as that is when we can expect one Cyrodiil campaign to fill and it drops off in the later PMs (and the Steam Charts suggest the same). So AM does not impact the greatest amount of players via the only sources of information we have.

April 3, 02:01 - 11,005 Peak 14:01 - 20,150
April 4, 05:01 - 7,197 Peak 14:00 - 21,553

The time seems to be central timezone for me.

So resetting the time when during the early to mid AM hours would be most beneficial and provide the greatest benefit to peak hours.

now. that's after the reset made it pointless to stay up late.

Considering the main Cyrodiil campaign was full during prime time hours and lacked anything close to being full during those hours I mentioned it does appear that little changed.

So please provide information to the contrary as I have backed up my statement with real information.

real information from the april of this year. when there is no point in staying late. you haven't provided comparison to how it was BEFORE the new reset. moreover - you are talking about Cyrodil right now. which doesn't have anything to do with events unless we are talking midyear mayhem. what exactly does the reset timer have to do with Cyrodil, when I'm talking about PVE dailies?

here's my information. current reset means pve players on US servers can only do the rolled over dailies at 6 am est. there is NO POINT to stay away until late night, like there used to be, because the dailies will NOT have rolled over yet. here's another bit of information. events end and begin at 10am. US server players get FOUR. HOUR. WINDOW. to get their last day's tickets. and that window is far more inconvenient that previous far more generous window was.

I was not arguing. I merely pointed out a fact based on real information instead of opinions.

I will also repeat what noted earlier, that there is no perfect time and never will be as any given time will affect someone negatively because it sits in the middle of their playtime. There are times that affect the least number of players which is what I noted.

no, what you did was point out INCOMPLETE and HIGHLY LIMITED statistical fact (I forgot to bring this up, but while you could in theory infer that behavior outside of steam would be similar to that inside steam, its an assumption NOT an irrefutable fact either - a lot of people do NOT use steam to play on pc, let alone console - AND your statistics were for the last 2, day, a sample that is far too small and far too recent) and THEN you made a conclusion that agued with MINE - that was not in any way factual, but rather your personal opinion/extrapolation. while also ignoring facts that US server players had 4 hours shaved off their last days of the event window. which is an actual fact that is not statistically limited.

you are also claiming that this reset timer will affect the least amount of people and I'm showing you that that is patently untrue. and also an opinion NOT a fact.

I pointed out the only real information we have access to and is substantiated. While it reflects only players who are linked to steam it’s unbiased. It is the best information on when the least number of players would be affected by the reset posted in this thread, patently or not.

I would love to see better information that can be backed up provided but oppinions based on observations is not such data. If you have such information please do share it.

VoodooPlatypus · April 2023

Been wrestling with the new reset timers. Over all, I understand the alleged reasons why, but I really hate the change. I used to play on both NA and EU, and I had an established, early morning, pre-workday, routine for several years. The new reset basically makes the previous schedule impossible. Just not enough time now to complete my daily chores (there’s roughly 20 minutes now between reset and when I leave for work) and I’m absolutely not interested in wasting my limited evening hours doing writs. I have zero faith they will address this at all, so I expect I’ll eventually abandon my EU toons. In theory that will make it easier to just walk away.