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Ledgermain account wide.
Animar111
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Your highest Ledgermain level you have earned should be across all your characters.
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No it shouldn't. We already have to many account wide achievements. Level Legerdemain as you level your character. It goes fairly quick.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."29 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Absolutely not. We have so much account wide stuff already.8 -
Kisakee✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nope, keep it as is. I have 15 characters who maxed it out. If you want it just do it.I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.10 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I disagree with making skills account wide and agree that this one doesn't take long to level.
But also I have characters who I specifically don't want to be thieves, they don't steal or pick locks so I'd rather they don't have the skill line levelled.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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opalcity✭✭✭✭✭Big nope.
Its not even one of the hard lines to upgrade. You could go to Belkarth and steal apples, or head to big towns with lots of houses and pick locks.
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phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Go to the northwest corner of grahtwood, get on the good side of the bandits via quest. There's a large quantity of locked chest spawns in the area around the orc stronghold and bandit area. There are at least 20 or so located in that spot.3 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Absolutely not.
There are genuine reasons why some players favour things to be account-wide, and there are genuine reasons why other players favour things being character-specific. Time was when these things were reasonably balanced in the game between those two favoured playstyles, but in recent years the balance has been tipped too far towards the account-wide setting, and not always on an optional basis.
Enough is enough.5 -
Fugus✭✭✭Certain things should be account wide, namely
1) Achievements
2) The Sticker book.
3) ANYTHING you purchase from the crown store (Armory slots, Skyshards, Skill Lines, etc...).
But the individual skills for this, definitely not, it isn't even that hard to level if you take the time to pickpocket people or just steal apples in craglorn I have read which I never did.
On this topic, I have no intentions of purchasing plenty of stuff in the crown store specifically because they are not account wide.2 -
LalMirchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Respectfully disagree, AWA changes destroyed replay-ability for me.
Legerdemain is rather trivial to level and with the skill being purchasable from the Crown Store it's not likely that it will ever be account wide.1 -
wilykcat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok then. Maybe?
Legerdemain is a skill line that's received when stealing stuff from npcs and picking locks. I'm totally cool with this being account bound only if the skill line is at max level but not the player's character.
Also on the other hand it's fine if the skill line isnot account bound because I know player's do like leveling up those individual skill lines and to have differwnt and unique ones on each of their characters.
As long if there are options, I'm ok with account bound skill lines.0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »I agree. AWA should be all or nothing.
To late, it can't be removed now. We just have to live with the mistake.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Your highest Ledgermain level you have earned should be across all your characters.
Nope. I'd rather that it just be removed from the game, along with any need for it.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭Please no. If you want to be lazy, that desperate, wanting your alts to be max skill instantly just go buy it through the crown store for 2,000 crown each, you lazy thief.
Or, oh, I don't know, you can do like most everybody else & do it the right way for each of your characters! Like, stealing apples & other stuff in the crates, baskets, & sacks (& pickpocket the farmer there too, unless someone killed him) at the apple farm near the outlaw refuge in Belkarth, Craglorn is still a good recommended place to level up the skill, from laundering & selling you stole from the farm. You get like a guaranteed raise of the skill level for each day if you reach each the selling & laundering limit.
Besides, individually leveling it is will always be better, for of one still gets gold out of it.Main is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)2 -
Fugus✭✭✭Clyde_BlueSnake wrote: »Please no. If you want to be lazy, that desperate, wanting your alts to be max skill instantly just go buy it through the crown store for 2,000 crown each, you lazy thief.
While agree the answer is no, the crown store is a horrible route to go. Quite literally his suggestion is superior to the crown store alternative specifically BECAUSE the crown store isn't account wide.
And 1 crown is roughly equal to $1, so 2,000 crowns is about equal to 17-20 USD.0 -
Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭Clyde_BlueSnake wrote: »Please no. If you want to be lazy, that desperate, wanting your alts to be max skill instantly just go buy it through the crown store for 2,000 crown each, you lazy thief.
While agree the answer is no, the crown store is a horrible route to go. Quite literally his suggestion is superior to the crown store alternative specifically BECAUSE the crown store isn't account wide.
And 1 crown is roughly equal to $1, so 2,000 crowns is about equal to 17-20 USD.
Yeah it's not the best way to go. The main point I was trying to make is just doing the normal way to level out legerdemain is still superior (even use Belkarth route as a easy way to do it) without either that crown store route or what the OP is suggesting.Main is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)0 -
Anumaril✭✭✭✭✭I understand the desire to have it be account-wide, but I don't agree it should be. I've been playing the game for many years now, for the past couple years on the same character. Only just a few days ago did I finally achieve level 20 in Ledgermain on that character (the only character of mine which has it maxed). Yet it does make sense for it to be character-specific.
Just because one character knows how to pick locks well doesn't mean another would. While that's an in-lore explanation, I don't think it's something we should dismiss. There's a delicate balance between worldbuilding and game mechanics which needs to be maintained, and we can't just trample over worldbuilding for the sake of making the game easier. There needs to be an internal logic to the world and skills.
But lore reasons aside, ledgermain isn't so gameplay-affecting that it warrants the need for it to be account-wide. Nothing that ledgermain offers is necessarily essential to cross-character gameplay. It just makes thieving gradually easier over time as you level the skill. It seems perfectly normal that something like that would be specific to your character which you level gradually as you play.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I do not understand why OP makes such a suggestion without providing any reason to justify why that skill line should be different than every other skill line. Without that then it is a solid no, it should not be.
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ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No. You can level this skill quite swiftly using various different methods, and it's easy to max out.
I have no desire to see any more account wide things that should be character specific. I loathe AWA as it is, and don't want my skills and other things I ENJOY leveling to be linked to my main.
Besides, even though I personally level every single character on my account as a thief, and enjoy this process, I respect that there are those who do not even want this skill line ranked on certain characters for RP reasons. Account wide skill leveling would ruin this for those people.
And then there are also those who actually want to play the game instead of having instant gratification the moment they click the "create" button on a new character. Account wide skill building is often a part of what they love about playing a new character. Thar shouldn't be taken from them.
I'm not paying 1,500 crowns per character slot to have the game play itself for me. If I wanted that, I'd go play some unpleasant AFK mobile game, not an mmorpg.PC l NA
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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Animar111✭✭✭✭ToI do not understand why OP makes such a suggestion without providing any reason to justify why that skill line should be different than every other skill line. Without that then it is a solid no, it should not be.
For me it would be to force lock-picks, nothing annoys me more than running a dungeon with a group only to discover that I shouldn’t of tried to force lock pick that chest but I’m on the wrong character, who hasn’t yet near maxed out his ledgermain.Edited by Animar111 on March 19, 2023 5:32PM0 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It already is account wide as much as it should be.
Level 1 character to max in the skill.
Then face a choice on the next character:
Pay 2000 crowns worth of your own money or, repeat the process.
Nothing more is needed.0 -
Animar111✭✭✭✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »It already is account wide as much as it should be.
Level 1 character to max in the skill.
Then face a choice on the next character:
Pay 2000 crowns worth of your own money or, repeat the process.
Nothing more is needed.
So I have to spend more money for this option per character.
Once you have done it once FREE is what is needed.
Account wide is what is needed.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, account wide for something so easy to level isn't needed.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No. I don't want it available on any characters other than my "bad girl" rogues.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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Kisakee✭✭✭✭✭
✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »It already is account wide as much as it should be.
Level 1 character to max in the skill.
Then face a choice on the next character:
Pay 2000 crowns worth of your own money or, repeat the process.
Nothing more is needed.
So I have to spend more money for this option per character.
Once you have done it once FREE is what is needed.
Account wide is what is needed.
Still a "No", work for it.No. I don't want it available on any characters other than my "bad girl" rogues.
You know you can't force open treasure chests without it? I'm always annoyed when some sits down in a Dungeon or Trial and starts open it manually.I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »It already is account wide as much as it should be.
Level 1 character to max in the skill.
Then face a choice on the next character:
Pay 2000 crowns worth of your own money or, repeat the process.
Nothing more is needed.
So I have to spend more money for this option per character.
Once you have done it once FREE is what is needed.
Account wide is what is needed.
Still a "No", work for it.No. I don't want it available on any characters other than my "bad girl" rogues.
You know you can't force open treasure chests without it? I'm always annoyed when some sits down in a Dungeon or Trial and starts open it manually.
Solution to that is to remove locked chests from the game. They don't make sense anyway, given that so many things are locked and cannot be opened.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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