Block and Dodge Roll.

Mistform will still have it's uses in PvP for mitigating damage as it'll 100% absorb 3 projectiles during the dash. Just don't try dashing through AoE or someone using melee attacks.

Fantalior wrote: »

Where can I get 75% damage reduction in PvP?

In PvP you can reach high levels of mitigation with Sorcerer's Bound Aegis ability. However, it's only useful on a permablock build. In addition, other classes are inherently better at blocking.

Sorcerers get 99% damage reduction in PvP with Bound Aegis and Red CP.

(except for damage over time and other non-blockable damage like Haunting Curse)

That's about the best you'll find.

It's a shame. I liked that the ability was something completely unique, channelled, not a clone of something else. But I do understand why they changed it.

I still wish they'd just looked at the damage mitigation numbers, but I speak from a PVE perspective. The 75% was deleted from PVE functionality, without any other balancing to make up for that. I'd always hoped they would rebalance to something like 20-30% DR and bump the damage a bit to compensate. That way you could build it for DPS or you could still put a build together that focused on DR if you wanted (Light of Cyrodiil set provides 15% DR while channelling, High Elves get 5% DR while channelling as a racial, you could slot Psijic Ult for the 5% DR passive, and slot Flare for the 10% DR passive). Maybe set that all up with Gaze of Sithis for an off-meta but fun alternative tank build.

I don't know, it just feels like they threw in the towel with this skill and the game lost something unique as a result.

KilianDermoth wrote: »

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

Sorcerers get 99% damage reduction in PvP with Bound Aegis and Red CP.

It seems you have never heared about block mitigation cap (which is 90%).

Sorcerers have 99% total damage reduction in PvP with Bound Aegis, Blue+Red CP, Major+Minor Protection, Major+Minor Resolve, and Trial by Fire. I've permablock tanked 40+ players in Cyrodiil this way.

KilianDermoth wrote: »

And probably you have never heared about things like Frost Staves or Shields (weapon) which can provide almost the same mitigation passively (+20%) like bound aegis (+40%), especially on dragon knights (+10% = +30% passive block mitigation without doing anything) and templars (+10% = +30% for a long duration when using some templar skills). While the sorcerer have to cast a skill before he gets damage and thus needs to know beforehand when to cast and even hast to recast it every 5 seconds while a DK with a shield just has constantly +30%....

I've heard of all of these things.

@SkaraMinoc Sure you can do builds that survive almost anything but you dont need bound aegis for this. A dragonknight with a shield or frost staff would be also as unkillable, without casting any skills like bound aegis, just with passive bonusses.

The difference of 10% block mitigation (which is only about 5% block mitigation because its multiplicative with the base 50% block mitigation as far as I know) is absolute neglectible, especially if you consider that it takes a skill cast on the Sorc side compared to passive buffs the dragon knight gets anyways. You could even argue that the Sorc has less survivability because the Dragon Knight could just cast another skill to get even more mitigation than the Sorc reaches, for example by applying minor / major maim (instead of casting bound aegis) to get the same or even higher mitigation.

Further being able to reach already the same or even higher mitigation, a dragon knight could use standard of might for example to get even more mitigation and probably reset the fight by restoring all the missing health and ressources...

Sure, you can create builds that survive almost anything even on Sorcs, there is no doubt that such stuff is possible, probably on any class btw. But as we can see in your image, such builds cant even hurt an absolute squishy. 404 damage as max, probably against the most squishy player in the bunch? Thats an absolute joke.

The point is, that bound aegis itself wont allow for such high mitigation and it wont make a squishy into a tank that can take on 40+ players...

I am just wondering if your opinion is really that Sorcs are overperforming? Especially if looking at real - non tank troll - builds (which are possible on other classes, too)?

Btw. I think to prevent such scenarios / builds there should be a cap for total mitigation, no matter how it is achieved.

KilianDermoth wrote: »

But as we can see in your image, such builds cant even hurt an absolute squishy. 404 damage as max, probably against the most squishy player in the bunch? Thats an absolute joke.

Cutting Defense is used to proc sustain poisons on a permablock build. It's not meant to do any meaningful damage.

But I understand your point that other classes, namely DK, are designed better for blocking and that it's not ideal to run Bound Aegis on a Sorc unless you're specifically building for permablock (or PvE tanking). I thoroughly tested Bound Aegis on a Sorc healer and it's much better to Streak away than it is to block and consume stamina needed for Dark Conversion.

So I retract my previous comment above.