What Happened to Whitestrake's Mayhem?

acastanza_ESO · January 2023

During ESO Live, Whitestrake's Mayhem was announced for Mid-March, after the Season of the Dragon event, but before Jester's Festival

But today during the Global Reveal Event, Mayhem was omitted, with the calendar skipping straight from Season of the Dragon, to Jester's.

Now, admittedly, those both say that the scheduled is subject to change, but it's only been a couple weeks between the two announcements. What happened? Is this just an oversight on the later schedule?

Mayhem is one of the few bright spots in the year for those of us who main PVP, and losing it without any information why hurts.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin anything you can tell us?

johnjetau · January 2023

That's what some of us in our PVP Guilds are wondering too.

We have so little to look forward to these days, they better have not scrapped it.

React · January 2023

Also wondering about this.

endgamesmug · January 2023

Ive been prepping characters for that yeesh 😣, hope we get something

Fruity_Ninja · January 2023

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom are we able to get clarity? Whitestrake’s Mayhem is a huge 2 weeks for the PVP community, sad to see it removed today.

DirtyDeeds765 · January 2023

It will still come. They probably just didn't have enough room for it.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/625950/2023-q1-event-schedule-january-through-march#latest

@DirtyDeeds765

jaws343 · January 2023

We got that first image like earlier this week or late last week. That second image really just looks to be highlighting the less niche things. Looks like they keep the graphic at 3 events. And the ESO plus trial was the highlight. And the other two events are more universal across the player base than mayhem is.

Just looking way too much into this.

acastanza_ESO · January 2023

jaws343 wrote: »

We got that first image like earlier this week or late last week. That second image really just looks to be highlighting the less niche things. Looks like they keep the graphic at 3 events. And the ESO plus trial was the highlight. And the other two events are more universal across the player base than mayhem is.

Just looking way too much into this.

Hopefully, but can you really blame us who PVP for having trust issues? lol

shadyjane62 · January 2023

No trust issues here. I don't trust any of it.

Jaraal · January 2023

Can we get Rich to do an in-home livestream discussing this?

Fruity_Ninja · January 2023

jaws343 wrote: »

We got that first image like earlier this week or late last week. That second image really just looks to be highlighting the less niche things. Looks like they keep the graphic at 3 events. And the ESO plus trial was the highlight. And the other two events are more universal across the player base than mayhem is.

Just looking way too much into this.

Don’t know man, PVP tends to get the short end of the stick, so trust issues exist for a lot of us. I hope you’re right though.

Would still go a long way for @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Kevin to confirm for us all!

LarsS · January 2023

For many PvP endgame players only one issue matters, performance. Yesterday’s absence of the Whitestrake's Mayhem from the event list is thus very worrying for us. It signals another delay before all new servers are live. In the studio directors December message, he said that all servers would be updated late Feb./March. He also stated that the EU servers would be updated first, and that nearly all hardware needed were available. Thus, the mid-March Mayhem would have been after all servers have been updated.

There is thus an urgent need for new information and preferably a tentative schedule when the individual servers are planed to go live. To be more precise are the EU server upgrades still on track?

ApoAlaia · January 2023

There are only two PvP centric events a year (the two instances of Mayhem).

From a very selfish point of view there is quite a bit of stuff 'gated' behind PvP and for those like myself that generally do not engage in PvP in any meaningful way these events are the only occasions where progress towards that 'stuff' is made.

I hope they still keep them as they were.

Tranquilizer · January 2023

Maybe ZOS is going to get the new server hardware ready before Whitestrake's Mayhem.

In the Studio Director's letter they announced the new server hardware for EU datacenter for late February or March:

Almost all the hardware should be delivered and in place by December and then we'll need a month or two to install and test everything before we shift over to the new hardware. Please note that we will be prioritizing all three Realms in the EU datacenter first, and then will return to the NA datacenter to finish moving Xbox and PlayStation Realms there. We are as frustrated as you that this has taken so long—but it is happening and will be done and ready for all players, probably in late February or March of 2023.

Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/63363

Atrael7 · January 2023

Hopefully it's just an oversight by whoever made the livestream graphic, I was looking forward to Mayhem in March. @ZOS_Kevin can we get any confirmation it's still happening, is it delayed after Jester's etc. ?

ForumBully · January 2023

I think the few PvPers who still play regularly would have a heart attack if they actually devoted more than one sentence of an announcement to PvP. Nothing is the norm.

React · January 2023

jaws343 wrote: »

We got that first image like earlier this week or late last week. That second image really just looks to be highlighting the less niche things. Looks like they keep the graphic at 3 events. And the ESO plus trial was the highlight. And the other two events are more universal across the player base than mayhem is.

Just looking way too much into this.

I mean, they just cancelled the last PVP event. I don't think it is unreasonable at all to be suspicious about this one being cancelled too, given the contrast between the two graphics.

@ZOS_Kevin could you please confirm whether or not the PVP event is planned for mid March, before the jesters festival?

Dr_Con · January 2023

Honestly it should happen in February, this makes it 7 months out of the year where there's no significant PVP event, and 5 months between for the others (assuming MYM is in July, and it should be)

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 2023

it went to live on a farm where it runs free and plays with other events

fizl101 · January 2023

Dr_Con wrote: »

Honestly it should happen in February, this makes it 7 months out of the year where there's no significant PVP event, and 5 months between for the others (assuming MYM is in July, and it should be)

I suspect they are avoiding feb after the completion of the Elsweyr event due to the server upgrades on EU for other events, hence pushing Whitestrakes to March

sharquez · January 2023

I was so excited... man what a let down. It's like Christmas or Hanukah for me every year. A holy week(s) of indulging in the glory's of battle.

I hope this is addressed in some way.

Kartalin · January 2023

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

it went to live on a farm where it runs free and plays with other events

And the deer that used to roam Cyrodiil...

ZOS_GinaBruno · January 2023

We can confirm the event graphic that was shown during yesterday's Global Reveal is accurate and the most up-to-date. We'll have more information about all this very soon, but in the meantime, please know there will still be a Whitestrake's Mayhem event scheduled in the future.

VaranisArano · January 2023

I guess I'll wait to pencil in "Update my Whitestrake's Mayhem guide" on the calendar...

NettleCarrier · January 2023

Well it was a good few days hype I guess.

React · January 2023

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We can confirm the event graphic that was shown during yesterday's Global Reveal is accurate and the most up-to-date. We'll have more information about all this very soon, but in the meantime, please know there will still be a Whitestrake's Mayhem event scheduled in the future.

Wow, that is crushing to hear. This is the second PVP event in a row now that has been cancelled or postponed.

Is there any word on whether double telvar will make a return as part of whitestrake's/midyear, like Kevin mentioned in another thread?

Have you considered doing weekend double tel var events, like the battlegrounds ones?

It feels like zenimax doesn't even want to acknowledge pvp these days, despite citing "the best open world pvp experience arouns" during their global reveal. We aren't even getting the bare minimum anymore.

Dr_Con · January 2023

fizl101 wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

Honestly it should happen in February, this makes it 7 months out of the year where there's no significant PVP event, and 5 months between for the others (assuming MYM is in July, and it should be)

I suspect they are avoiding feb after the completion of the Elsweyr event due to the server upgrades on EU for other events, hence pushing Whitestrakes to March

I doubt that the event organizer has to account for server upgrades for EU when planning.

dinokstrunz · January 2023

PvP is cancelled at this point, rip ESO 2023 hype lol

SaffronCitrusflower · January 2023

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We can confirm the event graphic that was shown during yesterday's Global Reveal is accurate and the most up-to-date. We'll have more information about all this very soon, but in the meantime, please know there will still be a Whitestrake's Mayhem event scheduled in the future.

When is the Whitestrake's Mayhem scheduled to happen then please? The vague "in the future" answer is foreboding and makes it seem like PvP is slowly but surely being phased out of ESO.

Stamicka · January 2023

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We can confirm the event graphic that was shown during yesterday's Global Reveal is accurate and the most up-to-date. We'll have more information about all this very soon, but in the meantime, please know there will still be a Whitestrake's Mayhem event scheduled in the future.

So will it just be the normal summer event, or will we still be getting 2 Whitestrake events this year? I don't mind a postpone since you guys will be getting installing new servers soon, but please give us more than 1 double AP this year.

acastanza_ESO · January 2023

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We can confirm the event graphic that was shown during yesterday's Global Reveal is accurate and the most up-to-date. We'll have more information about all this very soon, but in the meantime, please know there will still be a Whitestrake's Mayhem event scheduled in the future.

Thanks for the update. I'm sure that this has to do with getting the EU hardware upgrade in place before putting a ton of strain on Cyrodiil - and we totally understand if that's the case. But this is still devastating to hear.