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Introduce some traps for those rushers :-)
TheDarkRuler
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I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
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Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
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Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 19, 2022 10:15AM [snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
[edited for naming-and-shaming]
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AvalonRanger✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
[snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
Don't worry about that, Most of overconfidence stupid speed runner usually die by surrounded much of mobs
at the corridor or just on the road. Honestly say, decent tank players suffer unreasonable punishment by
those type of stupid players. Because, lose damage dealer at the boss combat by their stupid behavior. :'(
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 19, 2022 10:15AMMy playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
I'm Tank and Healer main player.2 -
deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
[snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
In a way I agree but It should also include the snails..
If your more then 50m from group u should be pulled to them immediately! From ahead or behind!
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 19, 2022 10:15AM6 -
grkkll✭✭✭✭In days of no event I would agree but the current event encourages rushing as the drops are so paltry. As you need to get as many drops as possible queueing for FG1 normal and rushing is the most effective way to increase drops. I use an Oaken PVP 1 bar tank build without a taunt. I would never use this in PVE for anything except events which need dungeon drops but it serves the purpose. Since the current event started I have seen only one complaint so it seems the vast majority are in favour of rushing.... well during this event anyway.1
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deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭In days of no event I would agree but the current event encourages rushing as the drops are so paltry. As you need to get as many drops as possible queueing for FG1 normal and rushing is the most effective way to increase drops. I use an Oaken PVP 1 bar tank build without a taunt. I would never use this in PVE for anything except events which need dungeon drops but it serves the purpose. Since the current event started I have seen only one complaint so it seems the vast majority are in favour of rushing.... well during this event anyway.
Oh for sure! Were talking about THAT ONE that deviates from the rest of the group either ahead or behind. Yanking them back or ahead to the rest like a boss pull would be perfect!
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✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
What do you think is their intention on how to play the dungeons?
If you have the fungal grotto 1 pledge, it only requires to kill the orc and the dreugh boss. So they actually intend you to skip all other bosses
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Iron_Warrior✭✭✭✭✭Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!Edited by Iron_Warrior on September 19, 2022 9:45AM26 -
deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭RealLoveBVB wrote: »TheDarkRuler wrote: »So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
What do you think is their intention on how to play the dungeons?
If you have the fungal grotto 1 pledge, it only requires to kill the orc and the dreugh boss. So they actually intend you to skip all other bosses
Your 100% on this actually.. maybe dungeon completion should include ALL non-side bosses and 80% of the trash as well!! Problem solved except for the snail at the entrance not contributing to anything checking every container!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!
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Bhaji✭✭✭Not a problem, I have PuG Tank builds for all my chars and ignore rushers and faux healers.0
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✭✭or just make it so that you can't kill the next boss without having dealt with the previous one and when you aggro a boss you end up having all the adds you skipped dumped ontop of the fight2 -
UnabashedlyHonest✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
[snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
I vote just take away the ability to loot the dead final boss for those that run way ahead. Just make it so they don't get any loot or credit for completing the dungeon. (or event tickets in the case of the Undaunted event)
Edited by UnabashedlyHonest on September 19, 2022 12:25PM2 -
TheDarkRuler wrote: »I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
[snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
[edited for naming-and-shaming]
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svendf✭✭✭✭It´s all about design and attitude put together. I don´t know every MMO in this world, that said. It´s the only MMO I know of, which have roles (they claim to have), and at the same time don´t support them.
It´s a game, where player´s can rush ahead and leave others behind and creates greed, competition and devide a community.
It´s a game run by player´s with strong builds and high damage. It´s a game run by DD´s in, which I have no doubt of. If Im wrong. Why haven´t they changed it yet ? There are so many posts out there, which relate into each other, for some year´s now.
Guy´s. There are so many MMO´s out there. Pick one you like and pick one you feel is for you. I had to go through that process and found one. Im only doing my crafting and then im off to my main MMO, as I don´t wanna be part of, what´s going on.
When ZOS say, please pick another game if you don´t like, what´s going on or you feel you don´t wanna have any part in it, they are right.
There is alway´s a chance you may go back again if things change. Will I go back to ESO as my main MMO ? I wouldn´t count on it, Im happy, where I am.
Happy huntingEdited by svendf on September 19, 2022 11:08AM3 -
HerrKeinTipp_MrNoTip✭✭✭✭Downvote.
Ask, and in most cases the group will quest with you. Sometimes one runs ahead but now you can vote them out with the help of your new friends.
One day you, too, will be sick of FG1 for the 40,000th time.9 -
deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭The game itself is amazing, the issues lie in the community vs the community. Id imagine ZOS struggles with decisions on how many communist like control mechs to add so we no longer have any choice!2
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✭✭a lot of these mobs snare you or place a movespeed debuff if you try to run through, killing the weaker/unprepared party members.
speedrunning repetitive content is a viable strat, they built in a hardstop/pitstop by requiring you to kill the goblin chief. There's an actual boss in FG that gains more defense as it decreases in hp and is completely optional and no sane group kills it. I wouldn't mind if the mudcrab boss joined in on the Kra'gah fight if it was skipped, but it's w/e. if the mobs all followed you throughout the dungeon those same people would probably be able to kill them as well, but ZOS could consider the pathing/AI upgrades required to have those mobs catch up. People can also run vampirism stage 4 to run invisible to the bosses so people will find a way to speed run them regardless of the traps you want them to implement.Edited by Dr_Con on September 19, 2022 10:57AM2 -
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A solution to a problem which isn't an issue: just teleport all the skipped mobs and bosses to the last boss arena. It'll be like an extra hard mode.I wouldn't mind if the mudcrab boss joined in on the Kra'gah fight if it was skipped
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✭✭A solution to a problem which isn't an issue: just teleport all the skipped mobs and bosses to the last boss arena. It'll be like an extra hard mode.
It's actually interesting idea!
Sometimes I wish to skip bosses and some trash, but it's only because I don't want to waste time on killing every group of mobs and every boss separately. I would love to have them all delivered to one place! Kill everything with cleave damage, and get all the loot without wasting time
It would also be awesome to have all treasure chests in the last boss area of every dungeon
In the past, it was possible to fall behind the group and search for chests. Now it's difficult, because as soon as group rushes ahead to next boss, I get teleported to them and forced to leave the chests 
Leaving chests alone is not really an option, because I loved to open treasure chests even before they had any gear sets inside! 
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Saluka✭✭Always say SR, rush or w/e at the start of randoms. Even when doing FG1 for the 1000th time for event. IDK how to fix maybe have a remote rescue, ancient spear, teleport w/e you wanna call it to teleport the player to the group. Or when you get to the boss and you're the last one a dialogue option comes up saying teleport to fight? Or, IDK.0
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✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »I would love if ZoS would eventually just add some punishments for rushers into some dungeons.
[snip]
Adding a death-zone at the floor of that waterfall would discourage people from skipping.
So people would play the dungeons as intended and not skipping half the bosses.
Oh, and please just add that stuff without noticing it in the changelogs for extra spicyness.
[edited for naming-and-shaming]
Why would they do that when there are specific achievements for speed-running?
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✭✭✭✭✭It takes a few seconds to ask if skipping is ok at the waterfall, usually most players agree, and if not, killing the two extra bosses only takes a couple of extra minutes. I always go ahead and kill them regardless if I see a lowbie in the group, because they might be a new player that has no idea what skipping means, and will need the full clear for the dungeon achievement anyway.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No. Just ask in chat nicely if you need extra bosses, the quest, or just to not run. You can also tank, which gives you some control over the dungeon (speedrunners I see tend to have selfhealing now unfortunately). No one will know what you want until you speak up and if someone goes against your wishes then can vote to kick, leave dungeon, put them on ignore, etc.
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✭✭✭Majority Rules in the PUG. Start vote kicking these people so offensive to your sensibilities, and then they can re-que to another group in less than a minute as punishment. That'll show 'em! Just don't expect to see them make a forum thread, even speed runners understand that a thread takes longer to write than a re-que.Fear is the Mindkiller2 -
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Or, just hear me out here, you should be considerate of the people wanting to queue randoms and actually do dungeons, and form your own group of like-minded people? Funny how that advice works both ways, huh? If you don't want to take the time to form a group, then don't sit there and preach at the other side that they should instead.Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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Remathilis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Or... ZoS could reward them with their own mythic.
Medium Chest – Faun’s Lark Cladding
If you continuously Sprint for 1 second, you gain the ability to pass through enemies. Enemies you pass through become Charmed for 4 seconds, removing their ability to attack or cast abilities as they move toward you. Charming an enemy this way restores 678 Stamina and Magicka to you and heals you for 678 Health. Charming an enemy removes you from Stealth.Edited by Remathilis on September 19, 2022 5:18PM4 -
MaraxusTheOrc✭✭✭✭✭Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!
Seems like the toxic rushers are the ones who should make a pre made group?7 -
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✭MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!
Seems like the toxic rushers are the ones who should make a pre made group?
Some rushers do make pre made group. At least during this Undaunted event on PS/NA, several zones have folks in zone chat asking for folks to join them to speed farm FG1.4 -
Iron_Warrior✭✭✭✭✭
Or, just hear me out here, you should be considerate of the people wanting to queue randoms and actually do dungeons, and form your own group of like-minded people? Funny how that advice works both ways, huh? If you don't want to take the time to form a group, then don't sit there and preach at the other side that they should instead.Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!
But here is the difference, i don't have a problem with people that want to kill everything. It's op and other like minded people that have problem with us. If you are in my group and want to kill the crab boss in fungal grotto then go for it that's fine by me. But i'm still going to jump down that watterfall and "play how i want" like the game preaches!Edited by Iron_Warrior on September 19, 2022 6:47PM1 -
Androrix✭✭✭✭Iron_Warrior wrote: »Toxic rusher here. Don't want to see me in your queue? Then queue with a premade group of like minded people!
Hmmm...or you could queue in a premade group of like minded people, I guess.
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