Your Experience with U35?

Tandor · August 2022

danno8 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I didn't like the new jabs animation on PTS and it hasn't been reverted, but then I didn't imagine it would be. I've played my 250CP and level 13 (different server, no CPs) templars in overland content including delves thus far and apart from the animation haven't noticed any difference.

Easier content like overland or delves you won't really notice a difference because the relative time to kill is already so short. If it took you 4 seconds to kill an overland mob before, at a 20% damage loss it will now take you 4.8 seconds. Pretty tough to notice any difference.

But if a boss in VMSA took 2 minutes to kill before, it will now take you 2m24s, which you will likely notice. Or those enemies that take a second or two longer to go down now get in an extra hit or two, you will notice in any "race against time" scenario.

If you were in a Vet dungeon, or trial that has a DPS check, that extra 20% can not only take noticeably longer, but even make the content impossible.

The point is that these changes were heralded by the doomsayers from the outset as impacting adversely on every single player regardless of playstyle and including casual players of overland content. The fact is it hasn't, in part perhaps because of the changes made in response to feedback but also perhaps because of scaremongering on the part of those who were previously calling for the game to be made more difficult and then got upset when ZOS actually delivered on it.

As with most such changes, and I was as opposed as anyone on the PTS to the previous changes on achievements, some will quit over these changes and a few of them likely won't return, but others will adapt as they always do, and as I have done with the achievements albeit by abandoning two longstanding accounts and playing a bit differently on a single replacement account. Life goes on, as does the game.

Ratzkifal · August 2022

LesserCircle wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

My jabs feel like I am slapping people with a pool noodle. I saw a build that uses Spearshards as a spammable for magplars. It's making me wish ZOS had pulled the emergency breaks on the update and only released the dungeon without the balance patch.

This is amazingly accurate and boy does it look silly!

AlterBlika · August 2022

Azphel wrote: »

My magblade went from 31k to 26k on an unbuffed normal trial dummy as if I forgot how to play overnight. As a casual solo player, this is discouraging. Less damage means less healing for me.

Only vet bosses (not arena bosses mind you) got their hp reduced by 10%. My dps went down ~15%. Dummy parse dragged on. Boss fights will take even longer because there will be more time for repeating mechanics.

If by an unbuffed dummy you meant 6m or 3m one, then your dps is just about fine. You can still hit for more (I think 40k on such a dummy was a limit before the update, if you're really into soloing, not just overland and arena stuff), if you adjust your build (and skill?).

KlauthWarthog · August 2022

altunit21 wrote: »

I can't login, infinite load screen.

You are not missing much.

TechMaybeHic · August 2022

All I know is I hope they never go change any more animations on the base classes because all of them I can think of they have done since the base classes are pretty terrible

Xarc · August 2022

Ok guys I have to say i like this update.

It's more the way i'm playing, regarding heavy attacks, empowered buff, and with my restauration staff i get more sustain it's excellent.
I like the new animations for dueal wield spam & jab. The fact jab gives major brutality/sorc is great and i can use another skill than rally in my bar. I dont know why exaclty but my sustain is excellent with my templar, I dont know why ATM but I will check
NB surprise attack "nerf" isnt really one for me since in pvp, the skill is always combined to cloak so it's always 100% crit, doesnt change anything.
MagNB are up and it's clearly a good new.

Some buff are only for pve (against monsters). I don't know if we're on the way to separate pvp/pve, It's my only asking about this update.

I think in general, it's more balanced for all classes, considering all nerfs & buffs applied.
And the fact in PVE the whole dps has decreased is a good thing. I mean, when we started playing in 2014 best players were at 30k dps. Now there is a pit between average players and good players reaching 110k. It was time to do something.

I like this patch. Thx zos.
Combat team did a good job.

Lucjan · August 2022

From a these days casual, mostly solo player, after a few hours in-game I don't see that much of a problem for myself when it comes to the damage nerfs.
What is however a major problem is how they gutted HoTs. I mean cutting the Spirit Mender's heals by half?!? Basically every class I tried today got its healing over time severely nerfed in real gameplay. Talking about a sledgehammer approach...

Azphel · August 2022

AlterBlika wrote: »

If by an unbuffed dummy you meant 6m or 3m one, then your dps is just about fine. You can still hit for more (I think 40k on such a dummy was a limit before the update, if you're really into soloing, not just overland and arena stuff), if you adjust your build (and skill?).

I meant the dummy with 26kk health, without optimized buffs. This one. I don't see myself getting back to where I was before. Also, my motivation to redo my build again is gone because it's likely that by the time I'm done, everything will change again.

Shihp00 · August 2022

extend the crown sale zos

virtus753 · August 2022

AlterBlika wrote: »

It takes longer to beat a boss, but otherwise fine. I don't see any issues with that.

The issue is that there are dps checks in this game that threaten achievements or even clears themselves if you take longer.

Your portal dps don't do 42k average per person on the Eternal Servant? No vSS HM for your group, and obviously no Godslayer.

That 42k just got 15%, 20%, however much harder to achieve.

Rageypoo · August 2022

First time posting. Just wanted to say that as someone who really enjoyed Templar, I didn't like the new animation of the jabs, and I feel pretty underpowered.

swook33b16_ESO · August 2022

Um am I blind or has something changed with the camera position? It feel like you can see more of the surroundings.

danno8 · August 2022

Tandor wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I didn't like the new jabs animation on PTS and it hasn't been reverted, but then I didn't imagine it would be. I've played my 250CP and level 13 (different server, no CPs) templars in overland content including delves thus far and apart from the animation haven't noticed any difference.

Easier content like overland or delves you won't really notice a difference because the relative time to kill is already so short. If it took you 4 seconds to kill an overland mob before, at a 20% damage loss it will now take you 4.8 seconds. Pretty tough to notice any difference.

But if a boss in VMSA took 2 minutes to kill before, it will now take you 2m24s, which you will likely notice. Or those enemies that take a second or two longer to go down now get in an extra hit or two, you will notice in any "race against time" scenario.

If you were in a Vet dungeon, or trial that has a DPS check, that extra 20% can not only take noticeably longer, but even make the content impossible.

The point is that these changes were heralded by the doomsayers from the outset as impacting adversely on every single player regardless of playstyle and including casual players of overland content.

Objectively it has, but subjectively it will depend on the content you run, and how much of a difference a 10-20% decrease in DPS will affect you, as I tried to explain in my post.

The fact is it hasn't, in part perhaps because of the changes made in response to feedback but also perhaps because of scaremongering on the part of those who were previously calling for the game to be made more difficult and then got upset when ZOS actually delivered on it.

Was increasing game difficulty on ZoS list of stated goals for this patch? I missed that. In fact I am pretty sure it was the opposite goal in particular for newer players and casual players who were hoping to make the jump into more difficult content.

As with most such changes, and I was as opposed as anyone on the PTS to the previous changes on achievements, some will quit over these changes and a few of them likely won't return, but others will adapt as they always do, and as I have done with the achievements albeit by abandoning two longstanding accounts and playing a bit differently on a single replacement account. Life goes on, as does the game.

Yup. But one must ask, as we did with achievements (I'm with you on that one), was it worth it?

notyuu · August 2022

Bad
went from being able to solo vet-dungons with a little effort to struggling to solo normal ones

Vulkunne · August 2022

Jabs and Flurry animations look terrible and seem to be dumbed down. Not happy.

Vulkunne · August 2022

notyuu wrote: »

Bad
went from being able to solo vet-dungons with a little effort to struggling to solo normal ones

Yeah I feel that pain. This is why ... about one week prior to U35 being confirmed to drop I did all my remaining Trials that I care anything about. I can only ... imagine what fresh hell awaits anyone else trying to farm places like vDSA for leads or gear, among other places as well. So thankful I did not wait any longer.

However, the problem now is they are messing up other things so even though the runs are done, the rewards are lackluster because they're killing animations and performance. What a sad ending to this once amazing and one of a kind experience.

merpins · August 2022

Was doing 50k dps on the 3m dummy before the patch, now I'm at 35k. I can't crack 70k dps anymore on a trial dummy (adjusted), when I was hitting 95k before the update. This is on my secondary. My main is no longer playable and my third is also gutted. All in all, since these changes went live, I'm going to take a break until they're addressed. Don't really see a point in playing at the moment.

Elvenheart · August 2022

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

my fishing experience is still the same... so what's everyone worries about

Oh, you must have missed the part where they doubled the time it takes for a fish to bite and halved the chance a fish WILL bite (just teasing). 😂

Necrotech_Master · August 2022

EldritchSun wrote: »

I heard arena weapons are trash now?

maelstrom destro i think is better (but is currently bugged and doesnt work from back bar)

maelstrom 2h is nerfed quite hard

maelstrom bow got a slight buff

master resto got a slight buff

so really the only one that is probably not great anymore is the maelstrom 2h

maelstrom destro will be good once they fix it

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

Tandor wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I didn't like the new jabs animation on PTS and it hasn't been reverted, but then I didn't imagine it would be. I've played my 250CP and level 13 (different server, no CPs) templars in overland content including delves thus far and apart from the animation haven't noticed any difference.

Easier content like overland or delves you won't really notice a difference because the relative time to kill is already so short. If it took you 4 seconds to kill an overland mob before, at a 20% damage loss it will now take you 4.8 seconds. Pretty tough to notice any difference.

But if a boss in VMSA took 2 minutes to kill before, it will now take you 2m24s, which you will likely notice. Or those enemies that take a second or two longer to go down now get in an extra hit or two, you will notice in any "race against time" scenario.

If you were in a Vet dungeon, or trial that has a DPS check, that extra 20% can not only take noticeably longer, but even make the content impossible.

The point is that these changes were heralded by the doomsayers from the outset as impacting adversely on every single player regardless of playstyle and including casual players of overland content. The fact is it hasn't, in part perhaps because of the changes made in response to feedback but also perhaps because of scaremongering on the part of those who were previously calling for the game to be made more difficult and then got upset when ZOS actually delivered on it.

As with most such changes, and I was as opposed as anyone on the PTS to the previous changes on achievements, some will quit over these changes and a few of them likely won't return, but others will adapt as they always do, and as I have done with the achievements albeit by abandoning two longstanding accounts and playing a bit differently on a single replacement account. Life goes on, as does the game.

It's different for average players. The top is still fine

TaSheen · August 2022

I've had a heck of a time getting logged in at all. The first three accounts (on PC EU) went fine, got the riding all done on each of them. Then moved to PC NA (was about an hour later) and had enormous issues, getting Error 303; server timed out over and over. It took me 4 to 5 repeat attempts to get one character on each account logged in, and over an hour to get the four on my third account logged in to update riding training.

I followed the troubleshooting steps for Error 303 on the support site, except for port forwarding (my satellite modem doesn't allow for port forwarding), then repaired the game 3 times (because the launcher refused to pop the Play button until I'd completed the third repair), and finally was able to get logged in the first time on my 939 CP main.

I'm not noticing much change on her - stamden, in crafted gear with Oakensoul, and overland is pretty much all I do. By that time, it was time to get off for the day - so I hope the issues I had today are gone tomorrow so I can figure out what to do with my sorcs, if anything.

preevious · August 2022

I'm a magsorc.
I used the 3M dummy for testing, since the trial dummy was given additional debuff.

I was at 40k pre-patch (90k trial dummy)
I stand now at 35k. (didn't test on trial dummy)

Not so bad considering I use the same rotation as before patch, and I thus have a lot of redundent casting for skills that now last 20s instead of 10, and I still use the same gear, so, there's room for improvement.

However, I'm not convinced it will raise the floor having all dots of different length. It's doable, but certainly harder for someoone inexperienced.

I'm also annoyed by the maelstrom destuction staff not working on frontbar anymore. It's totally in opposition with what this staff always was.

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

merpins wrote: »

Was doing 50k dps on the 3m dummy before the patch, now I'm at 35k. I can't crack 70k dps anymore on a trial dummy (adjusted), when I was hitting 95k before the update. This is on my secondary. My main is no longer playable and my third is also gutted. All in all, since these changes went live, I'm going to take a break until they're addressed. Don't really see a point in playing at the moment.

Don't forget the buffed the iron atro with elemental catalyst

Einar_Hrafnarsson · August 2022

I dont like it. The dungeons, Vet and normal, take considerably longer. Jabs have been destroyed, there is a general, bad mood and resentment around the people i know and didnt leave yet. Many on my FL have left.

PrincessOfThieves · August 2022

Well, I feel underpowered. No motivation to try the new dungeons on vet, for the first time in years.
For god's sake, just stop this vendetta against endgame players and their supposedly obscene dps! You're hurting everyone else by doing this.

EldritchSun · August 2022

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

EldritchSun wrote: »

I heard arena weapons are trash now?

maelstrom destro i think is better (but is currently bugged and doesnt work from back bar)

maelstrom 2h is nerfed quite hard

maelstrom bow got a slight buff

master resto got a slight buff

so really the only one that is probably not great anymore is the maelstrom 2h

maelstrom destro will be good once they fix it

Just great, because I was using it on my solo stamcro, after switching from the bow. 5th time an update breaks my build.

Nowa133 · August 2022

Oh, so tanks and healers are a necessity in normals now? Or its just like always?

r3play81 · August 2022

Awful, Rapid strikes animation is bad and clunky I cant tell if I'm light or heavy attacking since their all the same animation

. Also I'm not the best at weaving and bar swapping so my crappy DPS got even crapper.

Rust_in_Peace · August 2022

It makes me not want to login.

Maybe in two weeks when the content creators have min maxed some solutions and I decide if it's worth grinding and farming replacement sets of gear I'll play.

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

Nowa133 wrote: »

Oh, so tanks and healers are a necessity in normals now? Or its just like always?

Definitely a strong strong possibility and veteran content. The average players are going to suffer without them especially when mechanics will show now