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Do people actually enjoy playing Templar? Serious Question
Jarl_Ironheart
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I'm not trying to be sarcastic or a wise guy but I am so curious to know if people really find templar fun. Just spamming jabs over snd over again. I played it for a while but got so bored of just doing that. Yes, I know about the rotation but you seriously can get similar DPS by popping a few DOTS then spamming rhe ever living oblivion out of jabs. Is that fun to you all?
Templars in PVP are even worse. They only ever do jabs and when you meet a group of them in BG they sound like a ball of insane people just yelling constantly while stabbing you with a golden spear. They also tend to be the class that will attempt to trash talk the most as if them killing you with jabs takes skill.
This post is partly a rant but also part a serious question/curiosity. Let me know
Templars in PVP are even worse. They only ever do jabs and when you meet a group of them in BG they sound like a ball of insane people just yelling constantly while stabbing you with a golden spear. They also tend to be the class that will attempt to trash talk the most as if them killing you with jabs takes skill.
This post is partly a rant but also part a serious question/curiosity. Let me know
Push Posh Applesauce, Pocket Full of Marmalade.
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merpins✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah, it's fun. On live.
Won't touch the class ever again if the new animation of Jabs goes live, though. I couldn't care less about nerfs to the skill; they can nerf it into the ground if they want to. It'll get buffs in the future. But changing the skill animation to a worse animation that feels worse to use? No thanks, jabs is the reason to play templar, and if it gets changed like that, then there's no reason to play templar.17 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I also play ranged magplar which is nice variety.
And even on stamplar it's not just all jabs spam.8 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Every class has a spammable. But if you think spamming jabs is all a Templar does, then you really haven’t played the class imo.36 -
Nemecil✭✭✭Oh yes, I did indeed enjoyed playing as a templar! Magicka templar that is (never played stamina). It is definitely my favorite class in the game.
I always had on a black and gold Daedric/Meridian inspired outfit with a rare dye called "Blood Gold" which I think is the shiniest gold dye in the game, roleplaying as a Champion of Meridia with my High Elf. Made me using my skills so much more immersive to my experience. Especially solar barrage for some reason. Argh it's like as if me conjuring that solar energy to blast enemies around me came from my golden armor.
Could never get enough of puncturing strikes with my divine spear, and I did enjoy casting solar barrage too, throwing spear shards around for whatever purpose, healing myself and allies with that ritual ultimate, sending out a ray of holy fire from my hands, using protection spells for my allies etc. Very nice :')7 -
K9002✭✭✭✭✭What are other classes supposed to be doing? Death recaps from every other class feature multiple instances of a single spammable + damage from some proc set like Caluurion. This game doesn't have anything resembling a combo system.5 -
shadyjane62✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭8 years never played anything else. Love it so much I am 5 days away from stopping all combat related activities. I have 230 days of year sub to use up. I will be doing writs and daily gift and endeavors that don't require combat.1 -
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✭✭✭Sorry forgot to add the only place I don't use jabs is pvp I use ranged ability and niche support. I heal and repair. and try to keep rams upright during siege.
I love playing Templar.1 -
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✭✭Yep, and I run 5 other skills in my rotation excluding things like heals or shields. I've never understood the 'one button jabs' sentiment about templarsSoupy twist10 -
alternatelder✭✭✭✭✭
✭U35 Templar kill-off can't come soon enough, I really hope it cuts down on the amount of jabsweeps spam I see everywhere. I feel bad for my plar that gets no playtime though. It's such a boring class that takes no effort to use in pvp, such an awful class to use in pve unless you're a healer, but even then that's what Wardens are for.3 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Used to, but since the profound nerf when they came out with the Warden class, not so much.
It's never really recovered from that.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis1 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only time I spam jabs respectively is on NBs who often complain about it because they were trying to only spam cloak. Other that that, all classes have filler between buffs and burst windows. Maybe DK doing a trio of skills to proc whip is the exception?1 -
deadsheepb14_ESO✭✭✭I'm totally casual solo player so yeah Templar is fun, spamming jab and light attacks is good times.
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Jarl_Ironheart✭✭✭✭✭Every class has a spammable. But if you think spamming jabs is all a Templar does, then you really haven’t played the class imo.
Played the class for over 3 years. I have all gold gear and have Tanked many vet dungeons and done many Vet Dungeons as DPS. I know there is a rotation but seriously the main thing is spamming jabs.Push Posh Applesauce, Pocket Full of Marmalade.0 -
Dr_Con✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's not all about stabby stab. I have a low level one who I use to DOT everyone, and I regularly end up with over 600k damage in a single battleground. You may not think about it often, but if too many DOTs get placed on people, it may not kill them but it drains the hell out of their resources as they have to heal up or put a damage shield on, chug potions, or use a bunch of mana to try and purge the effects. This makes the engagements much more painful for them because they've been having to deal with my DOTs which leaves them less resources to prebuff, or could be the dps on top of the burst my party needs, with me casting major defile effects on top of it all, to pull a victory.Edited by Dr_Con on August 17, 2022 11:20PM1 -
Zama666✭✭✭✭I like the flexibility and ease of play.
healz are fun!
What is so much more interesting about the class you play?
I am curious...
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Jarl_Ironheart✭✭✭✭✭Yep, and I run 5 other skills in my rotation excluding things like heals or shields. I've never understood the 'one button jabs' sentiment about templars
I think it has to do with the fact that 70% to %80 of Temps literally do just that. One button spam. At least what I see. I know there's a good varied rotation for them but in overland and PUG most players don't care and just spam jabs.
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭poke poke poke POKE
Soon to be
poke poke POKE
Templar is not my favorite class and I have put a some hours in it because it can be enjoyable. When it is strong, it is good for burning though dungeons and delves which could be viewed as having fun. Several classes can do that. Pick the one you like most.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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carolingnight✭✭✭After a long day at work, sometimes I want to be lazy and not go through a complex rotation but still want to stab, jab, and kill things. Spamming jabs gives me that satisfaction.
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eovogtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭If your idea of playing Templar is just spamming jabs then you're playing the class wrong, and probably not doing great damage. It's just like every other class gameplay wise, it just has one of the best spammables in the game. Anyways I find it has the best animations in the game. Unfortunately U35 completely kills the class spammable.Edited by eovogtb16_ESO on August 17, 2022 11:50PM12
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✭✭✭I LOVE my templar main. She has many dungeon heal builds. Many trial heal builds. A questing build. A PvP build. A hybrid build. A DPS build. All magicka. I also have a stamplar which I like but don't use as much.
Templar was the first class I played but I now have multiple characters in each class, and by far templar has been my favorite. I find it to be versatile and fun and definitely not just about jabs.
I am heartbroken about the changes to templar this patch but I didn't even give feedback because AwA taught me that nothing is sacred anymore in this game. If they read all the heartfelt requests to preserve some of the memorable achievement dates (like when each character turned 50), and ignored those pleas, they aren't going to be moved by our attachment to that animation. For whatever reason they're going to do what they're going to do, even if that means getting rid of one of the few things that has been part of the Templar identity since the beginning.6 -
Paulytnz✭✭✭✭✭Being that I came here from Guildwars 2 where they have an auto attack feature. Yes I like to play Templar here as that is about the closest thing you get to an auto attack. Hit jabs once or say 4-5 normal attacks or other AOE spams 5 times? No brainer, I don't need more stress on my fingers.
Yes of course there are other skills as well. I am just saying this game could benefit from more skills like Jabs or an actual Auto Attack. I know they wont do an Auto Attack since we can't (and they will never let us) actually lock on to enemies here. But still, for those players of us who are getting older and have been gaming for 20+ years now.........it would be appreciated. Especially when you are just fighting trash that is no real threat.Please support my Quality of Life Suggestions here:
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✭✭✭✭✭You're not wrong. I most enjoyed playing Templar back in Elsweyr patch (mid-2019) and before. I did a lot of vAS, vCR and vSS on my two Templars. At that point jabs was not mandatory, and was just an optional melee skill for AoE. The meta for PVE magplar was to use Elemental Weapon for single target and Force Pulse for cleave.
IIRC it was Dragonhold patch that killed off most DoTs (including Reflective/Vamp Bane) and made jabs spam the only way to play Templar. The class certainly suffered for it, since one-button builds are just not fun, especially when the one button is a clunky channeled melee spammable with a broken animation.
I'm glad that Templar will have the option to use other spammables again next week, and that the jabs animation was finally fixed to match the channel duration.Edited by WrathOfInnos on August 18, 2022 1:06AM5 -
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✭✭Jarl_Ironheart wrote: »Every class has a spammable. But if you think spamming jabs is all a Templar does, then you really haven’t played the class imo.
Played the class for over 3 years. I have all gold gear and have Tanked many vet dungeons and done many Vet Dungeons as DPS. I know there is a rotation but seriously the main thing is spamming jabs.
Then I'm not really sure what you are after. A typical Magplar is going to be using Jabs, blazing spear, purifying light, Reflective light (if not source of major prophecy), Radiant Oppression as an execute, Wall of Elements or Toppling charge depending on pvp/pve, Degeneration if they need major Sorcery. Then they will likely using Cleansing Ritual, RAT or myst, Channeled Focus, HoD. These days Javelin, both morphs can be handy, especially in pvp.
There really is not much space to put anything else on, and all of them are generally needed.0 -
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✭✭✭Jarl_Ironheart wrote: »I'm not trying to be sarcastic or a wise guy but I am so curious to know if people really find templar fun. Just spamming jabs over snd over again. I played it for a while but got so bored of just doing that. Yes, I know about the rotation but you seriously can get similar DPS by popping a few DOTS then spamming rhe ever living oblivion out of jabs. Is that fun to you all?
Templars in PVP are even worse. They only ever do jabs and when you meet a group of them in BG they sound like a ball of insane people just yelling constantly while stabbing you with a golden spear. They also tend to be the class that will attempt to trash talk the most as if them killing you with jabs takes skill.
This post is partly a rant but also part a serious question/curiosity. Let me know
Templars don't just spam jabs. They are doing other things while the jabs animation is going off. And it WAS a super fun class to play. U35 looks to be the death nail for templars though. Not only is the new jabs animation super dorky, the nerfs to the three main skills templars use are going to kill the class.
And in my experience, by far, the most trash talking class are cloakblades, who are invisible when they kill you.Edited by SaffronCitrusflower on August 18, 2022 1:30AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭Love my Templar's have a couple!
Have seen the "next patch kills the class" many times before but that actually often depends on whether you are chasing the meta or just having fun.
I will wait until next week to see how much I am affected, I'm a bit of a maverick, don't follow builds and often don't use the recommended skills
Edit:- I remember when they changed jesus beam and everyone was like "OMG Templars are dead"Edited by freespirit on August 18, 2022 2:08AMWhen people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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Clearly they enjoy it as why else would they play it?
If people want something straight forward to play in a video game, whether you find it boring or not, doesn't matter. So long as they enjoy it. Which they do.1 -
oldbobdude✭✭✭✭✭alternatelder wrote: »U35 Templar kill-off can't come soon enough, I really hope it cuts down on the amount of jabsweeps spam I see everywhere. I feel bad for my plar that gets no playtime though. It's such a boring class that takes no effort to use in pvp, such an awful class to use in pve unless you're a healer, but even then that's what Wardens are for.
Lol. Well, you know, to each their own. Right?
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Yes, I enjoy the class very much. It's one of the classes, along with magblade, that has the basics covered by their class toolkit. It has a gap closer that's actually good, an execute, a burst heal. Reactive skills that you need in PvP and that make the solo and group arenas fun to play. I prefer skills that do not tie you into sleepwalking through a practiced rotation, but that let you react to what's happening, even if that's mostly only relevant in PvP and not efficient in PvE. Thank god for Sweeps' damage, because I abhor rotations when it comes right down to it. Next patch templar looks to be a disaster for me personally. I was relying on it for PvE. You can limit yourself to spamming Sweeps, but you can have fun with the class in a way that, with some other classes, you frankly can't.Jarl_Ironheart wrote: »I'm not trying to be sarcastic or a wise guy but I am so curious to know if people really find templar fun. Just spamming jabs over snd over again. I played it for a while but got so bored of just doing that. Yes, I know about the rotation but you seriously can get similar DPS by popping a few DOTS then spamming rhe ever living oblivion out of jabs. Is that fun to you all?
Templars in PVP are even worse. They only ever do jabs and when you meet a group of them in BG they sound like a ball of insane people just yelling constantly while stabbing you with a golden spear. They also tend to be the class that will attempt to trash talk the most as if them killing you with jabs takes skill.
This post is partly a rant but also part a serious question/curiosity. Let me know
Contrast this with magden, the class that is actually boring to me and stopped me from ever giving necro a chance. Everything about magden is rotation. Everything is unresponsive. Your AOE doesn't fire for 3 seconds. Your birds are delayed. Your heal - Trellis, even though a good skill with a reactive component, needs to be kept up in advance. A bear that does what it wants and yields an unresponsive execute. A gap closer - Nature's Grasp - that is so niche, hardly anyone runs it. This is the truly boring class. There's nothing there. It doesn't have any good skills.
There is a fine line between situational skills that are universally useful enough to make it onto your bar, and skills that don't really work. Templar has many of the former, warden suffers from only having the latter.
I am personally not a fan of skills that have weird conditions associated with them. I hate skill mini-games. Grim Focus falls into that category, as did Burning Embers prior to the recent change, as it only healed you when it expired. Lava Whip. I understand that making skills cumbersome adds a dimension to PvP, where a skilled player will benefit. I can accept that. I am less enthused about delayed heals - not HOTs, but heals that are tied into having a good rotation, such as Deep Breath. Thankfully templar doesn't suffer from this problem, along with most magblade skills. Sweeps and Sap heal you immediately. If you cast Honor the Dead you heal. Simple. Responsive. No BS. Why would I want to play anything else?
If anything, the problem isn't with the class, it's the relative lack of content that keeps you on your toes. Too many bosses that you can stand in front of, be healed, and do your rotation. Boring. Go into something like Red Petal hard mode instead. Lots of ground effects to avoid, a boss that rushes around and needs to be interrupted. Toppling Charge actually comes in useful, which it so rarely does in PvE. Some people think it's too dangerous - a ranged interrupt skill would be better, they say. I disagree. I prefer melee, because it's more visceral.2