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Friendlist Cap increase from 100 to 250 or 500

  • moleculardrugs
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    I agree with this because I have gone and taken to adding people on Discord and I don't really want to do that because I feel like it would be harder for users to follow ESO community guidelines if they aren't discussing or talking directly in ESO. I also don't like using Discord in general but I do so for my guild's sake.

    Note, guild, not people I have befriended so even though our guild uses Discord, I am not very comfortable with using Discord for 1v1 communication. For trials like in Craglorn, that is fine, or even group content, yeah I'm okay with that.

    I just think that it protects both people if anything were ever needed to be disputed. I know a lot of people won't agree with me on this because the game is rated M and we are all grown up, but at the same time I have heard a lot of horror stories during the pandemic with catfishing. And I'm not talking about the romantic catfishing where someone pretends to be someone so that the person falls in love with them and then they end up on the show Catfish. I guess just befriending people and then scamming them or taking advantage of them. But that's only one of my concerns with using another third-party to have ESO friends on.
  • Vevvev
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    Having to knock off an old inactive friend to fit a new one in hurts me a little. Sure they've been gone for months if not years but like... at one point they were a friend.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    definitely agree it should be increased

    i have actually had cases where ive had a friend on my list go inactive for upwards a few years, and then they came back all the sudden and i was the only friend they had still playing and it greatly helped them catch back up with what was going on
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  • SilverBride
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    I am against this because that would be a lot more data to store.
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  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    I am against this because that would be a lot more data to store.

    Agree. It they're deleting our character data to free up storage, then they won't be expanding the friendslist.

    In fact at this rate they're probably more likely to delete your friends list =_=;
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  • Amottica
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    I am against this because that would be a lot more data to store.

    Agree. It they're deleting our character data to free up storage, then they won't be expanding the friendslist.

    In fact at this rate they're probably more likely to delete your friends list =_=;

    This is the very reason why the suggestion will not be considered at this time.

    Also, I’d expect Zenimax to look at how many people have actually maxed out their friends list to see if it’s an actual issue big enough to consider.
  • Tipsy
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    I'm no expert on data storage ,would this even really be a problem at all ?
    & even if it is;
    maybe they could make the storage more efficient,like they did a while ago for texture size & rendering..maybe
    they could find ways to manage these pieces of information more efficiently here too?

    I can imagine a lot of longtime eso players getting into this problem.Where they have to make heartbreaking choices
    knocking off people they enjoyed eso so much with,unsure if they'll return.For new people they meet along the way,over the course of 8 years,100 people really isn't much.
    Considering you constantly meet new people too you want to stay in touch with.(I'm terrible at remembering names if unable to add) & Isn't that the whole point of an Mmo,like you know,meeting new people along the way & maintaining connections.In my opinion, having to delete longtime inactive friends to make room for new ones isn't right.
    Would be interested to learn this information,how many others have to make heartbreaking decisions because they're at cap.
    For me personally this is a big issue.But i'm most curious to learn for how many exactly it is too,if it really would require an investigation
    Edited by Tipsy on March 5, 2022 3:06AM
  • Toxic_Hemlock
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    You can have my cap, I got 0 and I plan on keeping it that way. I love the solo lifestyle TBH.

    Although if they are thinking of increasing a cap I could do with quite the few more on my blocked list as it seems to be full.
  • Xarc
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    Yes.
    And by the way, increase ignore list please, I have to uningnore old trolls and lamers to ignore new ones.
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  • Easily_Lost
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    You can have my cap, I got 0 and I plan on keeping it that way. I love the solo lifestyle TBH.

    Although if they are thinking of increasing a cap I could do with quite the few more on my blocked list as it seems to be full.

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  • LoneStar2911
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    I think increasing the friend list and ignore list would make a lot of players happy.
  • SilverBride
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    I think increasing the friend list and ignore list would make a lot of players happy.

    That may be true but it is not necessary.

    The friends list is for friends, not every player we ever have a random encounter with. I seriously doubt that anyone maintains an active friendship with 100 players.

    As far as the ignore list, we don't need to fill it up with every player who once said something in zone that we didn't like. The few I have ignored I removed within a few hours and never ran into them again. Just clear out the list every week and chances are you won't ever see them again. Or turn off zone.
    Edited by SilverBride on March 5, 2022 6:42PM
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  • deleted221106-002999
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    Tipsy wrote: »
    Hello, been playing since beta & am struggling to decide which long offline friend to delete ,to make room for new ones.
    Because all the ones I still have ,I do hope will come back at some point.
    Could you please increase the friendlist cap to 250 or 500 or so?

    No objections if it was stored on the client.

    Otherwise, no thanks. No idea what zos would randomly purge in pursuit of the mythical 'performance' to do this.
  • LoneStar2911
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    I think increasing the friend list and ignore list would make a lot of players happy.

    That may be true but it is not necessary.

    The friends list is for friends, not every player we ever have a random encounter with. I seriously doubt that anyone maintains an active friendship with 100 players.

    As far as the ignore list, we don't need to fill it up with every player who once said something in zone that we didn't like. The few I have ignored I removed within a few hours and never ran into them again. Just clear out the list every week and chances are you won't ever see them again. Or turn off zone.

    Oh, I completely agree with you. I have around 20 people on my friends list and 4 people on my block list (crown scammers).
    BUT… I consistently hear from others that they would be so happy to hear the ignore list limit went up. And I know some players, especially streamers, would love more room for their “friends” list.

    It would be a QoL change for a lot of people. For me? Probably not. But I’m all about QoL implementations, even if it may not really effect me.
  • SilverBride
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    I think increasing the friend list and ignore list would make a lot of players happy.

    That may be true but it is not necessary.

    The friends list is for friends, not every player we ever have a random encounter with. I seriously doubt that anyone maintains an active friendship with 100 players.

    As far as the ignore list, we don't need to fill it up with every player who once said something in zone that we didn't like. The few I have ignored I removed within a few hours and never ran into them again. Just clear out the list every week and chances are you won't ever see them again. Or turn off zone.

    Oh, I completely agree with you. I have around 20 people on my friends list and 4 people on my block list (crown scammers).
    BUT… I consistently hear from others that they would be so happy to hear the ignore list limit went up. And I know some players, especially streamers, would love more room for their “friends” list.

    It would be a QoL change for a lot of people. For me? Probably not. But I’m all about QoL implementations, even if it may not really effect me.

    Providing more slots for players to add "friends" they may never speak with again, and to ignore players they may never come into contact with again isn't quality of life. It is completely unnecessary, especially now that data storage is at the forefront.
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  • S0Z0H
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    They could easily raise the limit, so sure. But it's a very low on the priority list of the dev "to do" list, I'm sure. So ya
  • meekmiko
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    I mean... if you want 500 friends why not just make a guild to use as a friends list? It has 500 slots and everyone can talk to each other all the time if they want.....
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  • Tipsy
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    I think increasing the friend list and ignore list would make a lot of players happy.

    yea,on the ignore list i think i have about 6-10 people since the game was released (& those were players that really did me wrong in most cases,so I guess i have high tolerance & don't push the ignore button often) I have not included nor considered that for orginal post (probably because that doesn't apply to me personally)while i could have,but sure raising the friendlist/ignore capacity could go hand in hand maybe. (or maybe if they add like a slider that allows you to convert friendslots into ignore slots or vice versa like splittting stacks of resources ingame-assuming data capacity & server load really is an issue as some think here- I don't believe it tbh)
    For the ignore list,it doesn't apply to me & i'd gladly convert them into friendslots too :smiley: .It seems like many people think that something isn't a problem (or not necessary) if it doesn't apply to them personally.
    Believe me,if you play since release,for about 8years, 100 friendlist cap is very low considering all the people you interacted with ,met & played with over the years.
    For me ,in eso it is enough if I want to stay in touch with player & enjoy my game session(s) with them that I add them to the friendlist.

    I guess everyone has different standards when it comes to friends & lovers etc & you can never be sure,even if you think you know someone for 15 years ,in restrospect you can still discover it wasn't
    such a good friend after all. Whichever standards you have for considering /allowing someone as friend; it says nothing about the authenticity of a friend.So the argument "you just have to be more selective
    so you have enough with the 100 cap"
    doesn't hold for me. & that's actually also quite sad about the 100 cap;it limits your ability to connect with others to 100 in a world like Tamriel that is huge & where you constantly meet new people every day ...you might remove a friend that hasn't logged on for 9 months or so to make room for one,but you can never be sure if person
    you boot is a better friend than the one you add.It can be ofcourse.But there is also a chance you remove someone that would have actually been a better friend in the long run,returning to the game at later point. (so the limited 100 cap is also a damaging issue when you consider connections & community building;the ability to stay in touch is important in mmos.Regardless if you are a loner or not-that is your personal choice & you have every right to play that way.But then ofcourse this doesn't apply to you.Would be cool if you could give friendslots away then :D )
    So yea,someone you add can turns out to be a disappointment compared to the one you deleted to add him/her to your list.
    & then you'd grow sad about the 100 cap management & poor choice you made. The constant dilemma about the low 100 cap shouldn't be a thing.It shouldn't potentially cause sorrow either.
    For new players this probably is a non issue,but for longtime players it can be a different story.Each time I meet nice people along the way now that I decide I want to stay in touch with, I must make the heartbreaking decision to remove an old friend.
    (To be fair there were people I didn't remember & removed-so i was able to manage it for a while,but now i've gotten to the point where all 100 are people I don't want to remove-so i guess i'm past the selection stage within that 100 limit)

    The 100 friendlist cap is therefore a hinderance,not just a quality of life issue(for me at least) And probably as you become an elder player you'll get to deal with issues like this.So instead of a quality issue it might be more of an "elder player issue".
    It would be like if you're constantly 1 slot away from being out of bagspace & often have to delete items from inventory,constantly interrupting the flow of your game experience.
    But in this case the hinderance you constantly get confronted with is rather of a heartbreaking nature.(and a social one)
    meekmiko wrote: »
    I mean... if you want 500 friends why not just make a guild to use as a friends list? It has 500 slots and everyone can talk to each other all the time if they want.....

    I don't think many people are willing to sacrifice a guildslot just so it can function like a friendlist extention.
    I'd feel flattered if people would sacrifice a guildslot just to stay in touch with me though. Neither do guilds have same purpose& functionality as friendlist.For example, it doesn't notify you about the friend coming online or going off.Only if leaving the guild or joining.Different purposes.


    Edited by Tipsy on March 8, 2022 9:25PM
  • p00tx
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    I am against this because that would be a lot more data to store.

    They just added a brand new card collecting system to the game that is probably taking up an insane amount of space, and has literally no bearing on or real benefit to the game whatsoever. I don't think data storage space is as pinched as we've been led to believe. I don't think you're at all off base for being concerned about this (this is a logical assumption from you), given what they've told us in the past, but I think a lot of that was just guesses and potential smoke screens from them.
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  • WiseSky
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    500 would be my number
  • SilverBride
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    p00tx wrote: »
    I am against this because that would be a lot more data to store.

    They just added a brand new card collecting system to the game that is probably taking up an insane amount of space, and has literally no bearing on or real benefit to the game whatsoever.

    Just because they added a feature that probably uses a lot of data doesn't mean it's ok to add a bunch more.

    Besides the fact that it is very unlikely anyone is active friends with 100 people on their friends list and interacts with them on a regular basis. It's like the hundreds of Facebook friends people have, which they have no idea who most of them even are.
    Edited by SilverBride on June 7, 2022 4:54PM
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  • Techwolf_Lupindo
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    The friendslist is big enought. This is not a Instancegrame or f*ckbook celebery game. Guilds are good for large groups and that needs to be increased to 1000 or more.
    Edited by Techwolf_Lupindo on June 7, 2022 4:51PM
  • Mr_Stach
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    Huh.

    I don't have 100 friends that I play with, but I wouldn't mind if it was increased for the people who do. Just because something doesn't directly benefit me, doesn't mean it shouldn't be added.
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  • SilverBride
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Huh.

    I don't have 100 friends that I play with, but I wouldn't mind if it was increased for the people who do. Just because something doesn't directly benefit me, doesn't mean it shouldn't be added.

    If it adds more data to be managed it could be detrimental to the game. That alone ís reason to not do it.
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    how do you have so many friends
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