FluffyReachWitch wrote: »I dunno, the shoulder seems like the perfect place for Hermaeus Mora if he wants to whisper forbidden knowledge into your ear.
Mr_Madness wrote: »FluffyReachWitch wrote: »I dunno, the shoulder seems like the perfect place for Hermaeus Mora if he wants to whisper forbidden knowledge into your ear.
Talking out loud, yes but not telepathically.
Also Mechanic wise its actually pretty bad so its not just for lore reasons
That would mean everyone near you will be able to hear that. If it was a ring or necklace then it would be telepathically so only you would be able to hear it. I doubt Hermaus wants everyone to know what he is whispering except you.
It's like having a private phone call but on speaker. Anyone near by will hear it so it's not really private for just for you now.
Jewlery would be a better option both Lore wise and mechanic wise. More EXP gain is not worth losing the Monster Helm and Shoulder.
Mr_Madness wrote: »FluffyReachWitch wrote: »I dunno, the shoulder seems like the perfect place for Hermaeus Mora if he wants to whisper forbidden knowledge into your ear.
Talking out loud, yes but not telepathically.
Also Mechanic wise its actually pretty bad so its not just for lore reasons
That would mean everyone near you will be able to hear that. If it was a ring or necklace then it would be telepathically so only you would be able to hear it. I doubt Hermaus wants everyone to know what he is whispering except you.
It's like having a private phone call but on speaker. Anyone near by will hear it so it's not really private for just for you now.
Jewlery would be a better option both Lore wise and mechanic wise. More EXP gain is not worth losing the Monster Helm and Shoulder.
The name suggests it is a whisper, not talking out loud, and certainly does not suggest anything is telepathic. I agree with @FluffyReachWitch logic they presented and see no reason why a ring or necklace would make more sense. I do not see anything lore-wise to suggest otherwise.
Further, the use of any mythic forces us to make a choice. We are giving up either a monster helm or a 5 PC bonus. It is clear that this is intentional since the piece does displace something.
MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »First, with that logic, the item should be a helmet instead of a shoulder, and not a necklace or ring. But I disagree. I think they're playing off the motif of a "devil on your shoulder." Where, if anywhere, does someone whisper into your ear? It's over your shoulder, of course. So this item thematically makes perfect sense imo. The only reason to want it as a ring or necklace, for me, would be the cost of upgrading jewelry to gold.
Second, I cannot think of a single competitive build that uses a mythic item AND a monster helm set. If anyone uses a mythic, they drop one piece of a monster helm for the 5 piece bonus of a normal set, since they're so valuable.
Third, this is actually a great mythic for its stats; there are many builds that I can think of that do not use mythics but do use two different monster helm sets to get crit rate, usually Slimecraw + 1. This mythic IMMEDIATELY replaces the other shoulder option for those builds, making the optimal choice ALWAYS Mora+Slimecraw.
Mr_Madness wrote: »MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »First, with that logic, the item should be a helmet instead of a shoulder, and not a necklace or ring. But I disagree. I think they're playing off the motif of a "devil on your shoulder." Where, if anywhere, does someone whisper into your ear? It's over your shoulder, of course. So this item thematically makes perfect sense imo. The only reason to want it as a ring or necklace, for me, would be the cost of upgrading jewelry to gold.
Second, I cannot think of a single competitive build that uses a mythic item AND a monster helm set. If anyone uses a mythic, they drop one piece of a monster helm for the 5 piece bonus of a normal set, since they're so valuable.
Third, this is actually a great mythic for its stats; there are many builds that I can think of that do not use mythics but do use two different monster helm sets to get crit rate, usually Slimecraw + 1. This mythic IMMEDIATELY replaces the other shoulder option for those builds, making the optimal choice ALWAYS Mora+Slimecraw.
If your gonna talk about the shoulder thing at least acknowledge telepathic whispers I mentioned before, Not gonna repeat the whisper dilemma again because everyone ignores and goes "Its on the shoulder to whisper so its obvious". Having a cursed jewelry that causes whispers in your head would be a better choice because no one else but you and would fit better with Hermaus Mora due to being a H.P Lovecraftian god.
its a shame this mythic was made a shoulder it would have seen much wider use if it was a anything but shoulder or head
its a shame this mythic was made a shoulder it would have seen much wider use if it was a anything but shoulder or head
It's a pretty crit dense piece and people are already running mix matched or one piece monster sets to fit in mythics. This is going be more widely used than you think.
its a shame this mythic was made a shoulder it would have seen much wider use if it was a anything but shoulder or head
It's a pretty crit dense piece and people are already running mix matched or one piece monster sets to fit in mythics. This is going be more widely used than you think.