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Now that AWA has went live! Questions for the devs!

Bragerth
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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


Lua Code:
1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
2. return true
3.end)

also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well
  • ectoplasmicninja
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    My only question is about achievement-related character encounters, such as Melina Cassel, Choixth, and that one at the end of Markarth. Are these accessible to new characters? (My recent encounter with Melina on an alt implies not, but I have not had the time to test the major one.) Are they meant to be? If no to the first and yes to the second, is this something that is being or will be looked into?
    PC NA, CP2500+. Character creation is the true endgame.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    My only question is about achievement-related character encounters, such as Melina Cassel, Choixth, and that one at the end of Markarth. Are these accessible to new characters? (My recent encounter with Melina on an alt implies not, but I have not had the time to test the major one.) Are they meant to be? If no to the first and yes to the second, is this something that is being or will be looked into?

    Maybe this will help... :)
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/600300/so-is-every-character-now-in-db-tg-due-to-awa-is-blackwood-un-re-playable-now#latest
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  • Kesstryl
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    Will any NPCs that are still triggered by achievements be decoupled and moved to quest completion so we can have immersion back for our alts and they're not fearing they're in the midst of a Dragon Break or that Uncle Sheogorath is coming for them?
    HEARTHLIGHT - A guild for housing enthusiasts! Contact @Kesstryl in-game to join.
  • Bragerth
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    Kesstryl wrote: »
    Will any NPCs that are still triggered by achievements be decoupled and moved to quest completion so we can have immersion back for our alts and they're not fearing they're in the midst of a Dragon Break or that Uncle Sheogorath is coming for them?

    I think they will once they figure out how to fix it, and just cause they don't answer doesn't mean there not watching us. I mean I feel they should answer more frequently but im sure they understand the fustrations. hopefully they are working on it as we speak. I was gonna start a new alt but until most bugs are hammered out ill wait. but im excited to start a new toon.
  • Elvenheart
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    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂
    Edited by Elvenheart on March 24, 2022 10:38PM
  • Kesstryl
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂

    Even better, a system to reset achievements. Is an achievement making tracking a zone impossible on an alt? Reset and do over and have an easier map. Did an alt get an achievement you wanted for your main? Reset it and let your main finish it. Is an achievement triggering NPCs out of order and breaking immersion on an alt? Reset it and don't worry about it anymore. I'd delete so many achievements just to have the game world be the way it was before this update made achievements force their way into game mechanics and immersion in really intrusive ways. I don't care about achievements; I do care about the game world continuing on like it always did before for my alts.
    HEARTHLIGHT - A guild for housing enthusiasts! Contact @Kesstryl in-game to join.
  • Bragerth
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂

    sure long as i dont need 100 more addons that could work.
  • Bragerth
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    Kesstryl wrote: »
    Elvenheart wrote: »
    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂

    Even better, a system to reset achievements. Is an achievement making tracking a zone impossible on an alt? Reset and do over and have an easier map. Did an alt get an achievement you wanted for your main? Reset it and let your main finish it. Is an achievement triggering NPCs out of order and breaking immersion on an alt? Reset it and don't worry about it anymore. I'd delete so many achievements just to have the game world be the way it was before this update made achievements force their way into game mechanics and immersion in really intrusive ways. I don't care about achievements; I do care about the game world continuing on like it always did before for my alts.

    this is a good idea to, just might not happen since they took away the orginal achivements becuase it was to much on the server i guess right?
  • TPishek
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    Kesstryl wrote: »
    Elvenheart wrote: »
    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂

    Even better, a system to reset achievements. Is an achievement making tracking a zone impossible on an alt? Reset and do over and have an easier map. Did an alt get an achievement you wanted for your main? Reset it and let your main finish it. Is an achievement triggering NPCs out of order and breaking immersion on an alt? Reset it and don't worry about it anymore. I'd delete so many achievements just to have the game world be the way it was before this update made achievements force their way into game mechanics and immersion in really intrusive ways. I don't care about achievements; I do care about the game world continuing on like it always did before for my alts.

    That sounds like a customer support nightmare waiting to happen from people accidentally deleting hard achievements.
  • peacenote
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    TPishek wrote: »
    Kesstryl wrote: »
    Elvenheart wrote: »
    RavenXIV wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    I know you guys put the earned by tooltips but i was wondering if down the line can you do away with them there is an add on that actually does away with all the characters named earned by this is the code they used maybe you could implement it so we dont have to have an add on? i have so many of them but would be nice as an official release maybe you have to put a different code in but someone has figured it out.


    Lua Code:
    1.ZO_PreHook(Achievement, "RefreshTooltip", function()
    2. return true
    3.end)

    also for those who want to hide it cause it is annoying to know that i earned it on my main even here is the person that figured out the kewl addon

    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3328-ExoYsAchievementAnonymizer.html i belive silvereyes helped as well

    No, please, please, PLEASE never take the “earned by” information away from us too! I personally like seeing it. Account wide achievements in its current form is bad enough as it is, I don’t want to lose this last little bit as well! And going forward, I think it will be very interesting to see the “earned by” info on new achievements.

    UPDATE: What about a way to toggle the “earned by” info on or off? That could make both of us happy 🙂

    Even better, a system to reset achievements. Is an achievement making tracking a zone impossible on an alt? Reset and do over and have an easier map. Did an alt get an achievement you wanted for your main? Reset it and let your main finish it. Is an achievement triggering NPCs out of order and breaking immersion on an alt? Reset it and don't worry about it anymore. I'd delete so many achievements just to have the game world be the way it was before this update made achievements force their way into game mechanics and immersion in really intrusive ways. I don't care about achievements; I do care about the game world continuing on like it always did before for my alts.

    That sounds like a customer support nightmare waiting to happen from people accidentally deleting hard achievements.

    Agreed. Plus, while I'm fine with things being added for others, I would not be happy if this was rolled out as THE solution, because a big part of the value of achievements for me is looking back at the dates things were done. I wouldn't want to hear how I could "fix" my map by resetting an achievement. I want separate character tracking.

    Also I want to mention that a toggle would be fine, but removing "Earned by" altogether at this point would be the cruelest (and most effective) thing ZOS could do to divide the community even further on this issue. It would be awful if that were done.

    As a side note, it is sad now how I feel I must respond to everything I might NOT want in the game, because of how AwA was handled. I used to have a lot of faith that ZOS understood the different play styles of their community and would not remove core items from the game... but not anymore.
    My #1 wish for ESO Today: Decouple achievements from character progress and tracking.
    • Advocate for this HERE.
    • Want the history of this issue? It's HERE.
  • SerafinaWaterstar
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    As I await this madness to hit consoles on Tuesday, I am again having to waste time in game just going through & manually recording which of my characters have actually done which trial & dungeons etc.

    So I would like to ask the devs or whomever waved this through - why did you not understand that achievements are so tied to progression/recording of such? Do you not know how your own game is structured?!

    Gods its still makes me angry.
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