spartaxoxo wrote: »The whole issue is that it ISN'T a fake accent. It is a highly recognisable regional accent from the real world done very badly and inconsistently.
It is a fake accent that is inspired by a highly recognizable regional accent. The Reachman aren't analogous to any real world group, only inspired by them.
It's interesting. The accents came up on reddit when the zone came out and it pretty neatly divided into North Americans who thought people were making a big deal about nothing and needed to give over and European English speakers who thought it was like fingernails down a blackboard and approached actually unbearable.
It's interesting. The accents came up on reddit when the zone came out and it pretty neatly divided into North Americans who thought people were making a big deal about nothing and needed to give over and European English speakers who thought it was like fingernails down a blackboard and approached actually unbearable.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »It's interesting. The accents came up on reddit when the zone came out and it pretty neatly divided into North Americans who thought people were making a big deal about nothing and needed to give over and European English speakers who thought it was like fingernails down a blackboard and approached actually unbearable.
Probably doesn't help that, as Americans, the accents that we do have (like Southern, or New Yawk, or Bahstan) come in a wide range from subtle to hilariously overdone media presentations. So we're used to accents being all over the map. They're just a thing, no big deal. And we don't have any national identity tied up in any accent, since we're a mess of immigrants & cultures & regions. /shrug
I'm blissfully unaware of the shortcomings of the Reach voice actors. I know that Wes Johnson (Ard Caddach) sounds off, but that's one character, not half the men in Markarth. As a (southern) Briton, I should probably know better. Can someone tell me which character(s) has the good Scottish accent?
I don't think of Bosmer having a bad Cockney accent, because there's nothing else Cockney about their culture, homeland or even names. It's effectively another fantasy accent along with Khajiiti.
I just remembered Captain One-Eye: Argonian monotone, but like a stereotypical pirate.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »It's interesting. The accents came up on reddit when the zone came out and it pretty neatly divided into North Americans who thought people were making a big deal about nothing and needed to give over and European English speakers who thought it was like fingernails down a blackboard and approached actually unbearable.
Probably doesn't help that, as Americans, the accents that we do have (like Southern, or New Yawk, or Bahstan) come in a wide range from subtle to hilariously overdone media presentations. So we're used to accents being all over the map. They're just a thing, no big deal. And we don't have any national identity tied up in any accent, since we're a mess of immigrants & cultures & regions. /shrug
The only issue I have with the voice acting is the numerical lack of variety of actors.
There aren't enough different people doing the VA compared to the number of roles for just normal NPCs with speaking lines.
I'm not talking about the few big name *stars* doing the iconic speaking roles.
It's just that every Bosmer is the same guy or gal, every Altmer is a different same guy/gal, Orcs, Khajiit, etc.
There needed to be more variety in the other lesser roles for voice.
Clearly new DLC places like The Reach, for example, have some newer sounding people than earlier maps but other than that I just feel like I'm always talking to the same 6 or 8 people wherever I go.
HiveMind3006 wrote: »Yea but the Wood Elves arrrrrgh!! Cheesy Peeps its frickin BAD ! I'm Scottish, so I am used to terrible Jock impersonations from an early age (Russ Abbot anyone or am I just showing my age here?)https://youtu.be/m9iaEWrYv3k
*edited 10k times to figure out how to add video - yup sometimes the simplest things....
[quote="
But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off.
I haven't spent much time in the Reach. I am currently 'mopping up' missed quests and other bits n bobs I've missed throughout the zones so I shall definitely make that my next port of call. Thoughts shall be shared.
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »It's interesting. The accents came up on reddit when the zone came out and it pretty neatly divided into North Americans who thought people were making a big deal about nothing and needed to give over and European English speakers who thought it was like fingernails down a blackboard and approached actually unbearable.
Probably doesn't help that, as Americans, the accents that we do have (like Southern, or New Yawk, or Bahstan) come in a wide range from subtle to hilariously overdone media presentations. So we're used to accents being all over the map. They're just a thing, no big deal. And we don't have any national identity tied up in any accent, since we're a mess of immigrants & cultures & regions. /shrug
Those are dialects not accents, and every accent/dialect comes in a range from subtle to overdone, both in media and real life. No matter where they are from.
Depends on your point of view, I guess. As an Aussie, I don't find our accent the slightest bit sexy. But those French, particularly the women... c'est magnifique.Sylvermynx wrote: »A "real Scots accent" is the sexiest accent in the world. Okay, it's actually equal in sexy with Aussie....
ShawnLaRock wrote: »The woman giving a tour of the Graht Oak in Elden Root. <cringe>
S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY4vw6oAiM&ab_channel=EleanorMorton Sylvermynx wrote: »A "real Scots accent" is the sexiest accent in the world. Okay, it's actually equal in sexy with Aussie....
SammyKhajit wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »A "real Scots accent" is the sexiest accent in the world. Okay, it's actually equal in sexy with Aussie....
Trust this one, you don’t want to be stuck on the plane with an Aussie suffering from a rising inflection (think Kath and Kim tv series) who goes on and on about “kardonney” being “noice” or that rose is “pacifically special “
Or the peculiar crime of pronouncing “fish and chips” as “feesh and cheeps”.
Speaking as an Aussie and layering on the stereotype.
SammyKhajit wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »A "real Scots accent" is the sexiest accent in the world. Okay, it's actually equal in sexy with Aussie....
Trust this one, you don’t want to be stuck on the plane with an Aussie suffering from a rising inflection (think Kath and Kim tv series) who goes on and on about “kardonney” being “noice” or that rose is “pacifically special “
Or the peculiar crime of pronouncing “fish and chips” as “feesh and cheeps”.
Speaking as an Aussie and layering on the stereotype.
That Bosmer in Elden Root sounds exactly like I imagine it is, an American trying a cockney accent.
It sounds jarring to me as I'm from the UK so I know what Cockney sounds like.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »That Bosmer in Elden Root sounds exactly like I imagine it is, an American trying a cockney accent.
It sounds jarring to me as I'm from the UK so I know what Cockney sounds like.
Which just reminds me that, while I've heard the phrase "Cockney accent", I'd never actually heard a labeled example of it.
I had no idea that Bosmer were even speaking in a Cockney accent.
So I certainly couldn't notice or judge that they were bad at it.
Which means that I don't mind the Grahtwood tour lady. At least not for her accent, but only for the repetition because it's right at the wayshrine.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »That Bosmer in Elden Root sounds exactly like I imagine it is, an American trying a cockney accent.
It sounds jarring to me as I'm from the UK so I know what Cockney sounds like.
Which just reminds me that, while I've heard the phrase "Cockney accent", I'd never actually heard a labeled example of it.
I had no idea that Bosmer were even speaking in a Cockney accent.
So I certainly couldn't notice or judge that they were bad at it.
Which means that I don't mind the Grahtwood tour lady. At least not for her accent, but only for the repetition because it's right at the wayshrine.
Michael Caine is (modern) cockney although it's toned itself down a lot over the years. If you see clips of Eastenders a lot of people will be speaking something close to cockney although, again, it's getting toned down with the passing years. Cockney is traditionally associated with East London.
I actually thought the wood elves were trying to do West Country or Norfolk/Suffolk (they can be similar, although not identical), in at least one case doing a very good job indeed. I'm not sure if that's what people think is supposed to be cockney or if I've wiped the cockney wood elves from my mind, although a bell is ringing somewhere of some sort of Devon-Rotherhithe mashup.
newtinmpls wrote: »ShawnLaRock wrote: »The woman giving a tour of the Graht Oak in Elden Root. <cringe>
S.
I actually like her ... I stalled the other day, just listening to her cycle through the "presentation"; and I like that most of the time she is clearly sick of her job - but then when she is talking about the Spinners, there is this shade of something more in her voice.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »That Bosmer in Elden Root sounds exactly like I imagine it is, an American trying a cockney accent.
It sounds jarring to me as I'm from the UK so I know what Cockney sounds like.
Which just reminds me that, while I've heard the phrase "Cockney accent", I'd never actually heard a labeled example of it.
I had no idea that Bosmer were even speaking in a Cockney accent.
So I certainly couldn't notice or judge that they were bad at it.
Which means that I don't mind the Grahtwood tour lady. At least not for her accent, but only for the repetition because it's right at the wayshrine.
Michael Caine is (modern) cockney although it's toned itself down a lot over the years. If you see clips of Eastenders a lot of people will be speaking something close to cockney although, again, it's getting toned down with the passing years. Cockney is traditionally associated with East London.
I actually thought the wood elves were trying to do West Country or Norfolk/Suffolk (they can be similar, although not identical), in at least one case doing a very good job indeed. I'm not sure if that's what people think is supposed to be cockney or if I've wiped the cockney wood elves from my mind, although a bell is ringing somewhere of some sort of Devon-Rotherhithe mashup.
Nah - def not West Country (am West Country lass), although West Country accents also vary a lot ofc. But I don't think it's an attempt at a generic 'Mummerset' accent. It's definitely a [LOL the forum bot won't let me type the name of the actor because it's decided the words are rude!] D ick van D yke 'Meeery Poppuns' type effort. That or an attempt at generic Aussie.
SammyKhajit wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »A "real Scots accent" is the sexiest accent in the world. Okay, it's actually equal in sexy with Aussie....
Trust this one, you don’t want to be stuck on the plane with an Aussie suffering from a rising inflection (think Kath and Kim tv series) who goes on and on about “kardonney” being “noice” or that rose is “pacifically special “
Or the peculiar crime of pronouncing “fish and chips” as “feesh and cheeps”.
Speaking as an Aussie and layering on the stereotype.
See, people are going on about how the Bosmer have terrible Cockney accents. *I* thought they were terrible Aussie accents. Which sort of shows how terrible they are. I'd love it if the Bosmer were given proper Australian voices, it's not an accent you get much in games.
The accents never bothered me, but there are many times when I feel the actor has placed the emphasis in the wrong place in a statement, and I can't believe the director didn't ask them to try it just one more time to get it right. Maybe they have already gone through it 100 times and gave up.
The accents never bothered me, but there are many times when I feel the actor has placed the emphasis in the wrong place in a statement, and I can't believe the director didn't ask them to try it just one more time to get it right. Maybe they have already gone through it 100 times and gave up.
Depending on how it's done you may literally just get a type up of all your lines without any context at all, or just the lead-in lines. It depends on the game. And then when it gets put together it just sounds a bit random.
The accents never bothered me, but there are many times when I feel the actor has placed the emphasis in the wrong place in a statement, and I can't believe the director didn't ask them to try it just one more time to get it right. Maybe they have already gone through it 100 times and gave up.
Depending on how it's done you may literally just get a type up of all your lines without any context at all, or just the lead-in lines. It depends on the game. And then when it gets put together it just sounds a bit random.
This isn't the best example but it's the only one I can think of right now, the merchant in Belkarth who tells you it's been difficult getting everything she usually stocks, but so far she's managed. The last part of that seems unnaturally stressed.