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Voice Actors- Does it Bother you?

HiveMind3006
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As a player who enjoys many of the features of the game, questing, housing, dungeon runs, antiquities etc etc there's one thing really gets on my goat!
Now some of the voice actors are superb but then you get someone who clearly isn't and can't do i.e. a cockney accent - Epic fail!
It breaks emersion and makes the game feel cheaper somehow. I mean maybe the the folks who do the auditions for the regional accents don't really know what a true cockney or whatever sounds like and it sounds fine to them but man alive have they gotten it wrong.
I am sure there are many budding actors from across the globe who'd jump at the chance of doing the voice acting roles and making the accents authentic. They all don't need to be A listers.
It's not like they have cut corners with the actors they have hired. John Cleese, Malcolm McDowell, Michael Gambon, Kate Beckinsale, Bill Nighy, Lynda Carter and Alfred Molina (You throw me the idol, I'll throw you the whip!') to name a few!
A super impressive line up of top Hollywood stars who play parts in ESO then they use people who just can't do authentic accents and it doesn't make sense!
IMO some accents in game are cringe.
Another irk, multiple roles- thin that out a little too! :)
Maybe I am splitting hairs and it doesn't bother anyone else?
What do you guys think.
Cragsear: Brit: DK: Tank/DPS-Mag (Armoury). Craganor: High Elf: Ward: Tank/Heals(Armoury). Cragriel: High Elf: Templar: Heals. Cragheal: Brit: Templar: Heals/DPS-Stam (Armoury). Cragrot Mortium: Imperial: Necro: Tank/DPS-Stam (Armoury)
Khraga-Dhee: Khajiit: Nightblade: Heals/DPS/-Stam/Tealeaf\Assassin (Armoury). Khrag-Mund: Orc: DK: Tank.
Dances With Sabe: Argonian: Sorc: Heals/DPS-Mag (Armoury).

*Esoteric Order Of Mayhem*
  • Northwold
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    Yeah I've talked about it before. Most of the time it's OK in the sense that a lot of games are much worse (although the wood elves are often very offputting and there seem to be at least one, maybe several, regular actors who are Australian but regularly get asked to pull off accents that are quite difficult and they simply cannot do, so you get Devon via Brisbane).

    But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off. They were plain excruciating and made me wonder if no one in the voice directing / casting process actually knew what Scottish accents sound like. It didn't help that there was at least one actual Scot in there, just to remind you what it's supposed to sound like (which is not Toronto via St Petersburg via Kilkenny).

    The ones that bother me most, though, are roles where the actor sounds like they plain do not care and are reading the script for the first time. I don't think this is the actor's fault, necessarily, rather a failing of giving them context or suitable direction. But the most egregious example I found was the Anchorite in Deadlands. I just could not carry on and doubt I will ever complete the zone. The writing needs to take the lion's share of responsibility for that one, though -- the verbiage she was expected to bring to life was dire.

    See https://youtu.be/hQiLMCWX5CA (it's Viva La Dirt League on bad voice acting).
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 5:48PM
  • HiveMind3006
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    Northwold wrote: »
    Yeah I've talked about it before. Most of the time it's OK in the sense that a lot of games are much worse (although the wood elves are often very offputting and there seem to be at least one, maybe several, regular actors who are Australian but regularly get asked to pull off accents that are quite difficult and they simply cannot do, so you get Devon via Brisbane).

    But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off. They were plain excruciating and made me wonder if no one in the voice directing / casting process actually knew what Scottish accents sound like. It didn't help that there was at least one actual Scot in there, just to remind you what it's supposed to sound like (which is not Toronto via St Petersburg via Kilkenny).

    The ones that bother me most, though, are roles where the actor sounds like they plain do not care and are reading the script for the first time. I don't think this is the actor's fault, necessarily, rather a failing of giving them context or suitable direction. But the most egregious example I found was the Anchorite in Deadlands. I just could not carry on and doubt I will ever complete the zone.

    100% agree. Okay so they do know it's wrong but roll with it anyway! Like I said it doesn't make sense!

    Cragsear: Brit: DK: Tank/DPS-Mag (Armoury). Craganor: High Elf: Ward: Tank/Heals(Armoury). Cragriel: High Elf: Templar: Heals. Cragheal: Brit: Templar: Heals/DPS-Stam (Armoury). Cragrot Mortium: Imperial: Necro: Tank/DPS-Stam (Armoury)
    Khraga-Dhee: Khajiit: Nightblade: Heals/DPS/-Stam/Tealeaf\Assassin (Armoury). Khrag-Mund: Orc: DK: Tank.
    Dances With Sabe: Argonian: Sorc: Heals/DPS-Mag (Armoury).

    *Esoteric Order Of Mayhem*
  • Northwold
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    Northwold wrote: »
    Yeah I've talked about it before. Most of the time it's OK in the sense that a lot of games are much worse (although the wood elves are often very offputting and there seem to be at least one, maybe several, regular actors who are Australian but regularly get asked to pull off accents that are quite difficult and they simply cannot do, so you get Devon via Brisbane).

    But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off. They were plain excruciating and made me wonder if no one in the voice directing / casting process actually knew what Scottish accents sound like. It didn't help that there was at least one actual Scot in there, just to remind you what it's supposed to sound like (which is not Toronto via St Petersburg via Kilkenny).

    The ones that bother me most, though, are roles where the actor sounds like they plain do not care and are reading the script for the first time. I don't think this is the actor's fault, necessarily, rather a failing of giving them context or suitable direction. But the most egregious example I found was the Anchorite in Deadlands. I just could not carry on and doubt I will ever complete the zone.

    100% agree. Okay so they do know it's wrong but roll with it anyway! Like I said it doesn't make sense!

    Basically, I think if they're going to do something like Scottish, which is a very pronounced, distinctive accent, they need to be aware that it is a difficult accent, especially something like Edinburgh/lowland rather than Glasgow (the former is much more subtle than the latter so if an actor doesn't know what they're doing they can't just wing it). And hire people who can actually do it. If they can't, hey, it's a video game. Choose a completely different accent and use that instead.

    (Hats off to the Khajiit acting, though, which is pretty consistent and isn't the easiest thing in the world to pull off!)
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 1:09PM
  • Tandor
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    I love the voice acting and think it adds a lot to the game, and certainly to my immersion. Every single NPC is voiced when you hail them, even those that you're just passing by with no quests to give you, and every line of speech is voiced rather than just an opening phrase as in some games. That's quite an achievement in a game of this size.

    Do some voices grate personally? Yes, some are irritating, and in any game there's always the odd one that grates for me as a UK player because it's Americanised - such as using the word "gotten" instead of "got", for example - but I'm sure that works the other way round too.
    Edited by Tandor on March 6, 2022 1:04PM
  • ShawnLaRock
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    The woman giving a tour of the Graht Oak in Elden Root. <cringe>

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  • Northwold
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    Also, minotowers. There are so many minotowers. Save me from the minotowers adventurer. How will I survive the minotowers.

    Dear god.

    The occasional mispronunciation is OK. The occasional garbled read because the dialogue hasn't been written in a way that can be spoken. But when it's central to the quest and immediately makes a supposedly educated character sound illiterate...
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 1:21PM
  • HiveMind3006
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    Yea but the Wood Elves arrrrrgh!! Cheesy Peeps its frickin BAD ! I'm Scottish, so I am used to terrible Jock impersonations from an early age (Russ Abbot anyone or am I just showing my age here?)
    https://youtu.be/m9iaEWrYv3k

    *edited 10k times to figure out how to add video - yup sometimes the simplest things....


    [quote="

    But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off. [/quote]

    I haven't spent much time in the Reach. I am currently 'mopping up' missed quests and other bits n bobs I've missed throughout the zones so I shall definitely make that my next port of call. Thoughts shall be shared.


    Edited by HiveMind3006 on March 6, 2022 1:46PM
    Cragsear: Brit: DK: Tank/DPS-Mag (Armoury). Craganor: High Elf: Ward: Tank/Heals(Armoury). Cragriel: High Elf: Templar: Heals. Cragheal: Brit: Templar: Heals/DPS-Stam (Armoury). Cragrot Mortium: Imperial: Necro: Tank/DPS-Stam (Armoury)
    Khraga-Dhee: Khajiit: Nightblade: Heals/DPS/-Stam/Tealeaf\Assassin (Armoury). Khrag-Mund: Orc: DK: Tank.
    Dances With Sabe: Argonian: Sorc: Heals/DPS-Mag (Armoury).

    *Esoteric Order Of Mayhem*
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    It doesn't bother me, it amuses me. Some of it is hilarious. Especially the voice actor who must obviously know she isn't saying, "Stupid cart!" in that particular accent.

    I also admire the professionalism of voice actors who can knowingly mispronounce words like "ignominy" so badly yet still remain in character.
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  • Fenris_Arainai
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    As a non-native English speakers, I normally can't tell fake accents. IF even *I* can, the VA is doing a really bad job. :D

    There are a few VAs in ESO that I don't find particularly good, but it's more about lack of emotion and being the same wooden voice in every voiced character.

    But for the most part I love them all, as they add so much depth and character to the... um... characters. And some I simply love for how lovely their voices are. :) There are some NPCs that I just go and chat with to listen to their VAs.
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    I haven't spent much time in the Reach. I am currently 'mopping up' missed quests and other bits n bobs I've missed throughout the zones so I shall definitely make that my next port of call. Thoughts shall be shared.


    Just talk to Billy Boyd a lot whenever it gets too much. Of course, I could be being unkind and a whole meta plot about a Russian-Irish spy ring infiltrating Markarth may be forthcoming...
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 1:53PM
  • Sylvermynx
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    I just unilaterally dislike VA in toto. It's completely NON-immersive to me. They could have saved a ton of money by just not going there; I'd never miss it.
  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    The reuse of voice actors can be a problem.

    e.g. Black Drake Villa's final boss Pyroturge Encratis is also a trash mob in The Cauldron.

    Edited by Kaelthorn_Nightbloom on March 6, 2022 2:26PM
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  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    I say it's time to bring in ze french accent.

    'It cud be veri intéressant, n'est-ce pas?'

    (PS: I am a Francophone and Francophile)
  • Northwold
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    I say it's time to bring in ze french accent.

    'It cud be veri intéressant, n'est-ce pas?'

    (PS: I am a Francophone and Francophile)

    I'm picturing the continental breakfast furnishings pack now. Only 4,000 crowns, limited time only.
  • alberichtano
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    Yea but the Wood Elves arrrrrgh!! Cheesy Peeps its frickin BAD ! I'm Scottish, so I am used to terrible Jock impersonations from an early age (Russ Abbot anyone or am I just showing my age here?)
    https://youtu.be/m9iaEWrYv3k

    *edited 10k times to figure out how to add video - yup sometimes the simplest things....


    [quote="

    But the Scottish accents in the Reach were a whole new level of atrocious and I had to turn the sound off.

    I haven't spent much time in the Reach. I am currently 'mopping up' missed quests and other bits n bobs I've missed throughout the zones so I shall definitely make that my next port of call. Thoughts shall be shared.


    [/quote]

    It is a sad and kinda racist thing that, that every white barbaric people or culture in games has to sound like a bad Highlander/Braveheart-impersonation. :/

    Or like Groundskeeper Willie. *shivers*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2q0T7QXETs
    Edited by alberichtano on March 6, 2022 2:42PM
  • alberichtano
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    The reuse of voice actors can be a problem.

    e.g. Black Drake Villa's final boss Pyroturge Encratis is also a trash mob in The Cauldron.

    I may be wrong, but I believe they are hiring a voice-acting studio, that of course has a number of hired or closely kept voice actors, which is why almost all of Tamriel sounds so... similar. :p
  • Paulytnz
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    The only ones that bother me are the slow talking Argonians......................so.....................bor................ing........

    I guess and the Bosmer King dude in Grahtwood, he kind of get's annoying too, no offence to the actor!

    PS - I am so glad there are no centaurs in this game, because you know how it will go - "kill that centar" - no, just no....
    Edited by Paulytnz on March 6, 2022 2:58PM
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Why did they even give bosmer that fake cockney accent in the first place. If we finally get some more bosmer content I hope they will tone that down substantially.
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  • Northwold
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    Why did they even give bosmer that fake cockney accent in the first place. If we finally get some more bosmer content I hope they will tone that down substantially.

    I'm looking forward to when they tell the acting team that an entire race is South African. That could be fun.

    As far as I can tell the wood elves are supposed to be English West Country plus the Norfolk Broads. But it's really hard to work out!
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 3:05PM
  • HiveMind3006
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    Or Paulytnz, what about that hippy Bosner in the PD Blackwood- eeesh more cringe!! Think they were attempting to copy something but it's so bad nobody knows what! Just a theory.
    Iiii dooonnnt haaaave aaaa prrooooobleeeem wiiiith theeee Argooooooniiiaaaans thooouugh! :expressionless:

    Cragsear: Brit: DK: Tank/DPS-Mag (Armoury). Craganor: High Elf: Ward: Tank/Heals(Armoury). Cragriel: High Elf: Templar: Heals. Cragheal: Brit: Templar: Heals/DPS-Stam (Armoury). Cragrot Mortium: Imperial: Necro: Tank/DPS-Stam (Armoury)
    Khraga-Dhee: Khajiit: Nightblade: Heals/DPS/-Stam/Tealeaf\Assassin (Armoury). Khrag-Mund: Orc: DK: Tank.
    Dances With Sabe: Argonian: Sorc: Heals/DPS-Mag (Armoury).

    *Esoteric Order Of Mayhem*
  • DreamsUnderStars
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    They have the money to get big names in the game, they could spring for *actual* Scottish people [snip]

    The Bosmer's fake Cockney annoys me, I watch enough UK tv to know it's bad. lol

    [edited for mild bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 12, 2022 7:19PM
  • DP99
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    Apparently this stuff only bothers British/European players.

    As an American, I couldn't care less, and it is what it is. I honestly don't even notice it, nor do I pay much attention to it.
  • S0Z0H
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    Jim Cummings is one of prominent NPC voice actors , many know him from A LOT of cartoons and a ton of commercials. His voice has been used for so many things and it's very distinctive, just look up Dark Wing Duck and when you hear the character talk, you will know who I'm talking about.
    It's always funny when I hear him randomly in the game. I think my favorite role he does in ESO is the Depths Of Malatar dungeon in Gold Coast, he plays Quintus Verres , in that dungeon he is a spirit that is "helping" is ex wife find the Wrath Stone lol.
    First time he appears in the Volenfell dessert dungeon , this is Quintus when he is in mortal form before summons a gargoyle only to get stomped to death by it lol. So this explains why he is a ghost in Depths of Malatar lol.
    Jim Cummings can be heard doing all kinds of NPCs , not just quest ones, so it's extra hilarious when I hear him lol. But he does more main quest story NPCs through out the game.
    He is a great talent and great actor, it's just in some cases the sound of his voice is just unintentionally funny to me
  • Magenpie
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    It makes me sad to agree, because I love so much about the acting in the game. Most of it is superb.

    But the accents make my ears bleed.I can't believe there aren't hundreds of excellent, reasonably priced VA actors from the countries who's accents they're trying to emulate. I don't want to talk about specific moments, but it honestly spoils some of the story for me because it's so distractingly terrible at times. I've frequently wanted to write about it on the forum but as I say, I feel bad about criticising the usually fantastic VA.

    But I really hope they sort it out for future chapters.
    Edited by Magenpie on March 6, 2022 4:00PM
  • Drdeath20
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    I just never imagined people actually getting immersed in dialogue and storylines that is rated E for everyone.
    Edited by Drdeath20 on March 6, 2022 4:00PM
  • Northwold
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    DP99 wrote: »
    Apparently this stuff only bothers British/European players.

    As an American, I couldn't care less, and it is what it is. I honestly don't even notice it, nor do I pay much attention to it.

    I think it bothers us because we live with it every day. We know exactly what it needs to sound like and how far off it is when it's wrong. These aren't made up accents, but real ones that exist in the real world.

    So there's stuff you can overlook, like the stresses being wrong when said in an English accent (REEsearch should be reSEARCH), adjectives where Brits would use adverbs, etc. But the actual tones, the sound of the language being spoken as a sort of horror show caricature of what it's meant to be, is very hard to shrug off because it pulls you out of the story into "I am listening to actors in a studio trying to do an accent and doing a terrible job".

    It's like the minotower thing: it goes from "I'm watching a slightly lost character" immediately to "I'm listening to an actress who doesn't know how to pronounce a word in her script and probably doesn't know what it means, either".

    In the same way, I'd guess, in the US if someone played a southerner with a Philadelphia accent it would be ear [violation].

    But Markarth was something else. Literally the worst Scottish accents I have ever heard. And you can't even put it down to a Tamriel accent because the different actors do it different ways, so unlike the Khajiit it's not a consistent accent, and some of them are literally changing their accent within the same sentence so they pronounce *the same word* differently at different times(!).
    Edited by Northwold on March 6, 2022 5:21PM
  • MJ202
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    I was watching a movie the other day when one of the actors appeared familiar to me. I started trying to recall what other movie I had seen him in before. I looked him up on IMDB and was surprised by what I found. It wasn't his face which jogged my memory, it was his voice. The actor in the movie was Peter Stormare, the voice for Jorunn Skald King.

    ...does this mean I play too much ESO?
  • ArchMikem
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    The voice work gets a lot better the newer the content gets. Some of the worst dialogue I've heard are in the base game zones.
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  • Seraphayel
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    What bothers me most nowadays is how recycled the voice actors are. In every Chapter they’re the same and I have heard Darien‘s voice for several times now on different characters. This works for smaller characters you don’t recognize or spend a lot of times with, but if you have prominent voices and just hear them over and over again it’s immersion-breaking. And I am sure we’ll have the Darien voice actor yet again in High Isle but not as Darien.
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  • HiveMind3006
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    I just never imagined people actually getting immersed in dialogue and storylines that is rated E for everyone.

    Huh? So if is isn't full of profanity or adult content it isn't worth listening to? Forgive me if I pick you up wrong. I enjoy the story. It's nice to have the VA's. I played LotRO for years and that was all just text, but I read it. I like to know what I am doing and not feel so much like I'm just farming XP.
    The majority of the voice acting is good, some of it is a little flat but when accents are just downright cringe it bugs me.
    Some of the storylines are guff too, still listen to them.
    Like folks have said they have the coinage and means to do it correctly so why not?
    I understand North American's not noticing and it not being a big deal but when you notice something you can't un-notice it.
    Cragsear: Brit: DK: Tank/DPS-Mag (Armoury). Craganor: High Elf: Ward: Tank/Heals(Armoury). Cragriel: High Elf: Templar: Heals. Cragheal: Brit: Templar: Heals/DPS-Stam (Armoury). Cragrot Mortium: Imperial: Necro: Tank/DPS-Stam (Armoury)
    Khraga-Dhee: Khajiit: Nightblade: Heals/DPS/-Stam/Tealeaf\Assassin (Armoury). Khrag-Mund: Orc: DK: Tank.
    Dances With Sabe: Argonian: Sorc: Heals/DPS-Mag (Armoury).

    *Esoteric Order Of Mayhem*
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