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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »Now I am regretting my class choice. I don't expect to be able to solo endgame high VR bosses, but I do expect to be doing better DPS than other classes as a fragile melee class.
Damn..Now I'm sad.
Well from my experience i can kill (with some trouble) up to three mobs one level above mine (at VR7 i soloed the VR8 zone).
A good DK could kill at least five of them with ease... maybe more?
This said, i am loving my NB in pvp and its worth to suffer in pve.
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Cydone✭✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »Now I am regretting my class choice. I don't expect to be able to solo endgame high VR bosses, but I do expect to be doing better DPS than other classes as a fragile melee class.
Damn..Now I'm sad.
Well from my experience i can kill (with some trouble) up to three mobs one level above mine (at VR7 i soloed the VR8 zone).
A good DK could kill at least five of them with ease... maybe more?
This said, i am loving my NB in pvp and its worth to suffer in pve.
In PvP NB is awesome....but getting to VR10 via PvE is becoming more and more of a suicide inducing prospect, lol.Edited by Cydone on April 29, 2014 6:53PM1 -
Personally, I am all for the occasional free respec. Once every 10 levels sounds appropriate, the first being at level 20 (You won't have found the first respec shrine until around 15 anyway) ... I still see people asking where to respec at level 30, this is a perfect opportunity to put in a tutorial for how to do so. One or two easily dismissed screens sounds good for level 20.
There should be at least one or two free respecs available, given all the various bugged abilities.*cough* nightblades *cough*
Although somewhat steep, I am perfectly fine with the cost of respeccing, but a few free ones would go a long way to alleviating the cost of respeccing due to bugged abilities. Bugs here and there are fine, as long as they get fixed within a reasonable period of time - I'll just try another ability for a while. I just don't want to have to spend a week's worth of quest rewards and loot to do so.1 -
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✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »....*raises an eyebrow in contempt* Did you really need to comment on that? In the future, to preserve your delicate legibility and tastes, I shall not use the word "toon" and instead type out "player controlled model." Hopefully that will improve my standing in your kangaroo court.
*scratches head in confusion* ........ your delicate legibility?
*pulls gavel from pouch and pounds it*
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martymart76_ESO✭✭✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »....*raises an eyebrow in contempt* Did you really need to comment on that? In the future, to preserve your delicate legibility and tastes, I shall not use the word "toon" and instead type out "player controlled model." Hopefully that will improve my standing in your kangaroo court.
*scratches head in confusion* ........ your delicate legibility?
*pulls gavel from pouch and pounds it*
Ejected from the court for thin skin and contempt of language!!
Well I wanted to be contemptuous in response to your own at me! Thin skin indeed. You shouldn't shoot spitballs if you don't want the target making one up and shooting it back.
"rawr, look at me i am daneyulebub17 and i want you to pay MOAR for respeccing and also you cant use the word toon rawr rawr rabblerabblerabble"0 -
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Kill me now?? lol
Until there is an actual class respec OR NB gets it's abilities buffed AND unbugged, I won't be playing. Already unsubbed. Enjoyed the combat, just not the content and being forced to lvl in PvE. Also, I would resub if they made a viable way to lvl up in PvP.
But, really, as long as every other class can do everything a NB can and do it better, I won't be resubbing.1 -
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✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »
Well I wanted to be contemptuous in response to your own at me! Thin skin indeed. You shouldn't shoot spitballs if you don't want the target making one up and shooting it back.
"rawr, look at me i am daneyulebub17 and i want you to pay MOAR for respeccing and also you cant use the word toon rawr rawr rabblerabblerabble"
*smiles in admiration at the spot on impression* I generally fling more spittle however, when rawr'ing. You need to work on that if you really want to get me down pat.
rabblerrablerrabble.
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Desdemonte✭✭✭One at 50 and one at current VR cap would be awesome. I also wish you could respec single morphs too, for those crappers that you regret doing...0
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Malediktus✭✭✭✭Its only 100g per skillpoint resetted. Inflation is already going strong and you want to remove money sinks lol.@Malediktus --- Ebonheart Pact, EU-Megaserver0 -
Armoril✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »This is a new game. Very new. As such, people have made mistakes and specced into skills that they regretted.
The skill reset shrine is ridiculously expensive. That's just too much gold for a new player to have to put out. You guys should offer one FREE respec per player character. That would be a decent and sensible thing to do for people to repair their mis-applied skill points.
Thanks.
No, no, no. I already paid to respec once, and I'm not gonna have a bunch of crybabies trying to change it and get out of paying. It's not fair to me and everyone else who already paid. If you want to start over at no cost, why don't you create another character?3 -
martymart76_ESO✭✭✭butthurtlocker wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »This is a new game. Very new. As such, people have made mistakes and specced into skills that they regretted.
The skill reset shrine is ridiculously expensive. That's just too much gold for a new player to have to put out. You guys should offer one FREE respec per player character. That would be a decent and sensible thing to do for people to repair their mis-applied skill points.
Thanks.
No, no, no. I already paid to respec once, and I'm not gonna have a bunch of crybabies trying to change it and get out of paying. It's not fair to me and everyone else who already paid. If you want to start over at no cost, why don't you create another character?
Hold up: you are at the same time calling me a crybaby over expressing that we should have a FREE respec, you included, and also being a crybaby saying that it isn't "fair" that you had to pay to respec? I had to pay to respec, too, fella. I never said I didn't. You should be ON my side, not against me, as I try to lobby for us to have a free respec YOU INCLUDED....
You: "It's not fair! QQ i don't want you to have a free respec even though you've already respecced and spent the gold several times! This free respec doesn't hurt me in any capacity, and rather, rewards me and any alts I may play in the future, but I don't want you to have it because QQ but <YOU> are the crybaby, not me"
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Savinder✭✭✭At the very least we should have the option to revert a single skill purchase within a certain time limit: there are certain skill morphs that might look interesting on paper but are terrible in practice with the build/playstyle you have; I should have the option to revert a morph if I find out that it makes the skill useless to me without having to respec my whole character at a pretty hefty cost.Var var var1 -
martymart76_ESO✭✭✭Malediktus wrote: »Its only 100g per skillpoint resetted. Inflation is already going strong and you want to remove money sinks lol.
Who said anything about removing money sinks? Inflation is going strong form people farming dungeon bosses and selling their crap. Stop putting words into my mouth. And it is not 100g per skill point. It's 250g per skill point.
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✭✭People who do not want the price to go down or want no free respecs are probably the ones with millions of gold from vamp bites or sales from motifs.
I can't imagine a poor person wanting more gold sinks in this game.
Ok, all of you can now deny you are rich....
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I agree with the original post. I haven't respec'd, and I may have just to save one or two poorly placed points. I essentially will have lost out on those entirely because there is no reason for me to spend thousands of Gold just to save one or two points.
It's unnecessarily expensive. I find that having 1 free Respec would be nice. Or, perhaps achieving something, or reaching a certain level (like the lvl cap) would allow us to gain a free Respec.1 -
Wintermist✭✭✭I agree we could do with one free respec, maybe one that you can do before you hit level 16. So at level 15, you have to decide if you placed your points right or not. I know I had to learn all the nuances of the game and every time reroll the whole character just because I made a mistake and can't keep on playing because it really bothers me.0 -
Medwin✭✭✭✭I think they just need to make it cheaper. 50 gold per skill point up to 100, from 101 up it is 20 gold per skill, and from 201 up it is 10 gold per skill.
100 would be 5000
101 would be 5020
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Getorix✭✭✭Im all for respecing in most mmos, free respecs and multiple savable specs. But this game is set up different, theres so many skill points available and theres so few usable abilities allowed on a bar at once that the game just doesn't need them.
But I do agree the current respec system is way way too harsh, it should atleast be on a timer, like one free respec every week or month. People make mistakes and they want to experiment with different abilities, they shouldn't be stuck with an ability they don't like just because they had to spend a skill point to try it out.0 -
smosti✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »This is a new game. Very new. As such, people have made mistakes and specced into skills that they regretted.
The skill reset shrine is ridiculously expensive. That's just too much gold for a new player to have to put out. You guys should offer one FREE respec per player character. That would be a decent and sensible thing to do for people to repair their mis-applied skill points.
Thanks.
I quite like this idea. At level 20 i realized I wasted so many noob points. Had to use a big chunk of my banked gold to re spec haha0 -
How early are you trying to respect? Sounds like you just got a few skills and then quickly decided you want to change them and instead of leveling to get the skills you want, since your low level you'll get plenty of SP to get what you want, you just want to be able to respect on the fly. If it's not that bad for higher levels to respect then no I don't think you need a free respect.0
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I do agree that there should be one free respec whenever you should decide to use it, or just reduce the cost. As a veteran player I have 5 points in magic on my Templar and I thought I'd be using Aeneid spear abilities more often but I think I use 2hnd skills more then class ones, since I just prefer it, I think taking those 5 points out of magic and placing them in stamina would do me much better for facing the rigors of veteran zones, questing is quite difficult as a veteran and every edge is definitely appreciated.|----Cometh' at me bro'eth.--- Aldmeri Dominion NA, Veteran,----|
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Wreaken✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »So that would be 6 respecs at VR10 ?
No, just one every 10 levels. Not 6 at VR 10 but 6 chances on the way to VR 10.
I'm not sure why you want to limit it to 25/50? Where is the harm and letting people try different builds every ten levels for free?
Don't say money sink. They are already money sinking the hell out of everything as is.
Huh?!? Where is the money sink?
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Harleyquincey✭✭✭I strongly oppose this. There are way too many games out there that allow flavor-of-the-month respeccing and while I am aware that 1/character surely wouldn't lead to that, it's also a pristine way to remove currency from the game which is usually a very good thing to delay and somewhat combat inflation.
100g/skillpoint really isn't that much either. By the time it'd really be useful, you'll most likely have spent around 50-70 skillpoints and be around level 25ish. 5-7k isn't that much at that time.
Even the 30k once you should have 300 skillpoints spent isn't a hefty sum since by that time you'll undoubtedly be VR 10 or VR 12 for that matter and gol isn't really much of a hassle anymore.EU Server
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Firmament✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »This is a new game. Very new. As such, people have made mistakes and specced into skills that they regretted.
The skill reset shrine is ridiculously expensive. That's just too much gold for a new player to have to put out. You guys should offer one FREE respec per player character. That would be a decent and sensible thing to do for people to repair their mis-applied skill points.
Thanks.
Or they could like. Start very cheap and go increasing every time the player respec. What they do is really expensive. And the possibilities to build your char are so big, but the cost makes you run away.
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✭✭butthurtlocker wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »This is a new game. Very new. As such, people have made mistakes and specced into skills that they regretted.
The skill reset shrine is ridiculously expensive. That's just too much gold for a new player to have to put out. You guys should offer one FREE respec per player character. That would be a decent and sensible thing to do for people to repair their mis-applied skill points.
Thanks.
No, no, no. I already paid to respec once, and I'm not gonna have a bunch of crybabies trying to change it and get out of paying. It's not fair to me and everyone else who already paid. If you want to start over at no cost, why don't you create another character?
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ElSlayer✭✭✭It looks like you, guys, love to get things for free...
How about to start making efforts?0 -
Thalmar✭✭✭I agree, we should have a free respec, doesn't matter how many or when, but as it is stated before it is a new game and not everyone played multiple betas and calculated their skill points on websites even i contribute in betas. I dropped enchanting at level 12, found it very hard to level as i play alone mostly and feeling sorry about wasting many points in it. Now i am level 25 and got all skyshards on 3 zones making my respec cost like 50% of my all money lol. I need to change shoe, feet every level because i run all the time since can not afford for mount and definetely can not afford for respec also.
P.S: It is not whining or moaning just a wish and opinion, don't go harsh on people's opinions since it is lately the quality of the forum is going down very fast.1 -
krashwire_ESO✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »Malediktus wrote: »Its only 100g per skillpoint resetted. Inflation is already going strong and you want to remove money sinks lol.
Who said anything about removing money sinks? Inflation is going strong form people farming dungeon bosses and selling their crap. Stop putting words into my mouth. And it is not 100g per skill point. It's 250g per skill point.
You aren't very good at math are you?
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I vote no free respecs! In fact they should be at least 5 times the cost they. If you want a game that has absolutely no challenge to it and bno consequences for choices go play wow. Don't ruin this game just cause you made poor decisions.0
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