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Armory Assistant - Have you purchased it?

  • SeaGtGruff
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    Considering that Spellcrafting is a dead idea in ESO, how are you thinking they plan to monetize it?
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  • Hapexamendios
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    No and I don't think I will. I haven't even touched the armory system yet.
  • Araneae6537
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    I love the armory (would love if it also saved Mundus Stone and quickslot set-up!) even for just the two free slots but I haven’t seen a need for the assistant — certainly not 5k Crowns worth! The only cases where I might want to change my build but it would be inconvenient to port to a house, he is not summonable anyway (namely, trials and Cyrodiil).

    It was a long time before I even got a merchant assistant and that’s super handy but the price… Lol, reason that finally pushed me to purchase was to have a party of Alfiq at my Sleek Creek home! :joy:
    Edited by Araneae6537 on December 17, 2021 7:44AM
  • francesinhalover
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    Too expensive :( .
    I want tzovgins set and i can't even afford that dlc.
    Edited by francesinhalover on December 17, 2021 12:55AM
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  • UntilValhalla13
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    I can't use it in trials, so there's no point. I haven't even bothered with the armory station.
  • kargen27
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    Used in game gold to purchase crowns for the assistant. Has come in handy a few times on my Templar because sometimes I don't know if I am healing or DPS until the group is formed.
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  • Amottica
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    No. This new system is nice but it is extremely limited. I have played another game where the subscription was optional and did not have to pay anything to respect nor was I limited to extremely specific builds.

    The cost for respecing should be free, at least when subscribed, with the revenue earned from the subscription and selling a field respect assistance. Until then I will not waste crowns on something that requires me to spend more crowns to make it reasonably useful.
  • Queen_Rhaenys
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    Nope and I don’t plan to. I’d never remember to do it before heading into pvp - which would’ve been the only reason I’d entertain the idea of getting it in the first place.
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  • dinokstrunz
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    Nope, never will :)
  • LashanW
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    LashanW wrote: »
    Armory assistant cannot be summoned in dungeons, trials, arenas and Cyrodiil.

    In other words, useless.

    Not true. I summon in Dungeons all the time, even mid run. You just need to get out of combat. In Trials, I use dressing room addon if I am going as far to swap gear between pulls. In arenas and Cryo, I usually walk in prepared, so dont really need it there.

    I think this things highest and best use is to be able to queue properly as a support role for a fast queue, but if your group is okay with it, swap to full damage at a click of a button. Because healing often requires different skill morphs (especially on a NB), it works really well.

    I think it is also very useful if you want to have your alts be able to do writs at the click of a button.

    Lastly, if nothing else, you can keep one slot blank, and use it as a free reset for skills attributes and CP. Dont really need assistant for that, but its nice. I use the assistant far more than I thought I would.
    You serious? I wanted to buy the assistant at first but then everyone I asked told me I couldn't use it in group content. I guess you only can't use him in group content with leaderboards? Really wish ZoS would update the assistant's info properly in crown store.
    Thanks for letting me know btw.
    Edited by LashanW on December 17, 2021 3:02AM
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  • FeedbackOnly
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    I shouldn't..but I did
  • Sheridan
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    No. I have no use for the Armory either.
  • fizl101
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    I love the armory (would love if it also saved Mundus Stone and quickslot set-up!) even for just the two free slots but I haven’t seen a need for the assistant — certainly not 5k Crowns worth! The only cases where I might want to change my build but it would be inconvenient to port to a house, he is not summonable anyway (namely, trials and Cyrodiil).

    It was a long time before I even got a merchant assistant and that’s super handy but the price… Lol, reason that finally pushed me to purchase was to have a party of Alfiq at my Sleek Creek home! :joy:

    It does save the quickslots (at least on console) - I have different potions etc in my quickslots for different builds
    Soupy twist
  • Saieden
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    I only use it to switch between stam/mag spec or support/dd skills. Typically I'm going to stay in one or the other for long enough that having it on hand makes no sense. I'm also full up quickslots, so...
  • zaria
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    Don't see much reason on PC, here my only real use is an PvP and a PvE setup on main.
    For other use dressing room work well enough and it can be used in instances.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    LashanW wrote: »
    Armory assistant cannot be summoned in dungeons, trials, arenas and Cyrodiil.

    In other words, useless.

    @LashanW
    Not true. I summon in Dungeons all the time, even mid run. You just need to get out of combat. In Trials, I use dressing room addon if I am going as far to swap gear between pulls. In arenas and Cryo, I usually walk in prepared, so dont really need it there.

    I think this things highest and best use is to be able to queue properly as a support role for a fast queue, but if your group is okay with it, swap to full damage at a click of a button. Because healing often requires different skill morphs (especially on a NB), it works really well.

    I think it is also very useful if you want to have your alts be able to do writs at the click of a button.

    Lastly, if nothing else, you can keep one slot blank, and use it as a free reset for skills attributes and CP. Dont really need assistant for that, but its nice. I use the assistant far more than I thought I would.

    Oh interesting.. Very interesting mate. Didn't think of this.
    Could have my alts switch between combat ready role, and maxed out writ machine at the click of a button.

    No longer need to gather a gazilion skill points on my alts for combat AND crafted skills.

    Each character can have their core combat role and when not being played be crafter with

    - Max hirelings
    - Max decon materials
    - Max crafting skills for better writ rewards and master writs

    And if you need to play a dungeon on an alt you switch to combat and then right back again to a Gold machine.

    That is powerful mate.. why didnt i Think of that xD
    @Grandchamp1989

    Yeah, it works really well. Basically any level 50 toon is going to have enough to max out pretty much everything you need for writs and hirelings. Decon passives and maxing out Alchemy Enchanting might take a bit more. I dont think you would need to bother with other crafting like tempers and such on cloth, blacksmith, etc, because most likely if you are going to make gear, you go to your crafter. That said, being able to make a glyph or some potions without swapping toons is very handy.

    I also recommend that when you do it, dont spend anything else. I start with a completely blank character. I spend only skill points in crafting passives (and one point in the assault passive that gives mount speed), and only CP to make sure I have the relevant speed buffs (Riding, Steeds Blessing, Celertity, etc). That way, it is still very cheap if I want to use that as a way to reset a character with skills, attributes, etc. If just doing writs or crafting, its not like you need to build for combat. Just make sure you slot a Ring of the Hunt on the build.

    TLDR: The idea is to be at the speed cap, able to do all basic crafting needs, and to be able use for a cheap (if not quite free) character reset.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    LashanW wrote: »
    LashanW wrote: »
    Armory assistant cannot be summoned in dungeons, trials, arenas and Cyrodiil.

    In other words, useless.

    Not true. I summon in Dungeons all the time, even mid run. You just need to get out of combat. In Trials, I use dressing room addon if I am going as far to swap gear between pulls. In arenas and Cryo, I usually walk in prepared, so dont really need it there.

    I think this things highest and best use is to be able to queue properly as a support role for a fast queue, but if your group is okay with it, swap to full damage at a click of a button. Because healing often requires different skill morphs (especially on a NB), it works really well.

    I think it is also very useful if you want to have your alts be able to do writs at the click of a button.

    Lastly, if nothing else, you can keep one slot blank, and use it as a free reset for skills attributes and CP. Dont really need assistant for that, but its nice. I use the assistant far more than I thought I would.
    You serious? I wanted to buy the assistant at first but then everyone I asked told me I couldn't use it in group content. I guess you only can't use him in group content with leaderboards? Really wish ZoS would update the assistant's info properly in crown store.
    Thanks for letting me know btw.

    @LashanW
    Yeah, I wasnt sure until I tried it. Pretty sure I read the same poorly written description as you did. Haha.

    But I assure you, you can use in 4 man dungeons in group finder, just need to get out of combat. I often do after first boss. I think that you are right that any leaderboard and PVP is a no go. I have used in the lobby of trials. My NB that is currently in a trifecta prog group has one of the loadouts spec'ed for that trial. Might be overkill, but it saves the hassle of double checking everything.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on December 17, 2021 5:03PM
  • Kessra
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    I haven't even configured armory on any of my 18 toons on the main account or any of the toons of the remaining 9 support accounts yet
  • Lumsdenml
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    It’s scary to think how they plan to monetize Spellcrafting in the future :/

    Spellcrafting is never going to happen. Too much can go wrong...
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  • peacenote
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    I was looking forward to the Armory but haven't had time to look at it yet. Hoping to take a peek over the holidays.
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  • OneWingedAnge7
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    No point when I can't use it in content.
  • Starlight_Knight
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    I would be more tempted if the extra slots we purchace were account wide, i cant understand why they're not, eveything else crown related is,, well appart from outfit change things but who buys those.
    Typical shady business in the mmo land to create a problem then a cash shop solution

    Edit; Last time i brought the assistant merchant to repair my gear and it turns out you cant, so i know there will be something you cant do with the Armoury assistant that'll make me feel like ive wasted my money on zos again - and its so darn expencive.
    Edited by Starlight_Knight on December 17, 2021 10:26PM
  • karekiz
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    No, I won't buy an unifinished product.

    Come back when it swaps mundus zones ZoS and I might think about it.
  • mickeyx
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    No it's too expensive. Should be around 2500 crowns. There are mods that let you do this for free and they also work in group content.
    Edited by mickeyx on December 18, 2021 10:04AM
  • tomfant
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    Didn't buy the assistant, and don't have the intention to do it. If it would come with a couple of extra slots for ALL chars it might be worth. In its current state its just a waste of money.
    Edited by tomfant on December 18, 2021 1:23PM
  • Mesite
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    I probably will try it but there is so much going on I haven't even reset all my champion points on every character yet since they were reset.
  • SpiritKitten
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    I bought 1 for myself and gifted 1 the moment I logged in after the patch. I use him a lot actually. Like when my dungeon queue arrives.

    There is however, a disastrous bug that wipes cp on build1 after switching back to build1 from build2, and even once when I saved my build1 after updating the cp. I installed a cp-saving addon and now just deal with rebuilding my cp after the bug strikes that way. I have not experienced this bug using the housing armory station.

    The person I gifted the armory orc to has not used it once.
  • xgoku1
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    I've never swapped builds all that much on characters. Have enough alts to have a variety of builds, if I need one I'd just swap to that alt.

    The only hotswap I've done is to switch between PVP and PVE DPS on my main, for that I'd just fast travel to my house and use the free furnishing there. 5000 crowns for the assistant is extremely delusional pricing for what it can do (very little)
  • Nanfoodle
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    I have bought 2 slots and I have plans for 2 more slots. I don't get the disconnect. At 1500 crowns. Its better then buying a new char slot. You don't need to relevel a char. Unlock all the skill lines and all the things you need to do, to have a fully functional char.

    I use the assistant all the time. IMO the Armory System is the best addition to this game in a long time. But I'm also a guy who loves to focus on one char. So this gives me many play styles on my main. I would never buy another char slot. I have only used 3 and the other 2 chars are just for daily writs.
  • p00tx
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    Nope. I only purchase things that I can use while raiding (banker, merchant, race change, skill respec, repair kits, etc) so this is pretty useless to me.
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