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Any chance we have kids/teen characters in ESO?

  • Coatmagic
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    Nevermind.
    Edited by Coatmagic on November 18, 2021 2:56PM
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Maya_Nur wrote: »
    and hearing kids are annoying, well, this is different from my life experience.

    Eh, I thought kids were annoying when I was one. And it hasn't improved in the decades since.

    And, as mentioned, kids in media (movies, TV, etc) tend to be even worse, because writers tend to emphasize character traits/tropes/stereotypes in their dialogue & behavior.



  • Sylvermynx
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    Maya_Nur wrote: »
    and hearing kids are annoying, well, this is different from my life experience.

    Eh, I thought kids were annoying when I was one. And it hasn't improved in the decades since.

    And, as mentioned, kids in media (movies, TV, etc) tend to be even worse, because writers tend to emphasize character traits/tropes/stereotypes in their dialogue & behavior.

    I don't mind kids IRL once they become adults. Prior to that, I'm just not interested in them. I wasn't thrilled with being a parent - until my daughter grew up and got married....

  • Araneae6537
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    hafgood wrote: »
    Even NPC would you be happy walking into a room where there are children and there is an Adult Role Playing session going on? Again, I wouldn't be comfortable.

    I'm not condoning the Adult RPing but it is going to happen wherever there are real people involved. Therefore you limit its scope. No kids is just the best solution.

    Are you afraid that the NPC will be corrupted by what they overhear??? No, seriously, I don't understand. The game is rated M so it should only be adults involved (talking about players here, not pixels) and what NPCs populate the world has no bearing on the age of players participating in the game.

    If you want to RP, up to you who you engage with and what the scope of the stories and activities are. No reason to engage in anything that makes you uncomfortable and, from ads I’ve seen over time, I’m sure there is already RP going on that might make you uncomfortable.

    I’m not writing all this as an argument for adding additional age categories of NPC. On that I’m indifferent.
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    If you want to RP, up to you who you engage with and what the scope of the stories and activities are. No reason to engage in anything that makes you uncomfortable and, from ads I’ve seen over time, I’m sure there is already RP going on that might make you uncomfortable.

    I have no problems with people RPing if that's what floats their boat. I have problems where children are involved, and the best way for that not to happen is to not have virtual kids in the game.
  • SammyKhajit
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    No thank you. Children are not immersive, they're annoying - and have been in any game I've played that included them. For me, child NPCs add nothing to a game. I'm perfectly happy with TES pre Skyrim and ESO hiding kids wherever. Skyrim of course had them and they were SO awful I really wanted a mod to just remove them completely without going so far as to kill them.

    Completely this. The children in Skyrim were very annoying.
  • SilverBride
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    @ZOS_Kevin

    This is a delicate subject for obvious reasons. May we please get your input?
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  • whitecrow
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    If you see someone doing a weird thing with a child character, well that's what mudballs are for.


    Edited by whitecrow on November 18, 2021 4:12PM
  • Jamdarius
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    Maya_Nur wrote: »
    Anumaril wrote: »
    As much as I'd agree that children being in the game would make the world feel more real, ZOS will 100% never do it for similar reasons that Bethesda didn't do it in the single-player games (and when they finally did in Skyrim they made the kids immortal gods).
    Children's immortality never was a problem to me, I didn't even install mods to fix it. The problem was in their similarity, basically they had one or two face presets

    Recommend Kidmer mod if you want more different races children to adopt.
  • Hawco10
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    I find this request a bit odd tbh.
    Please don’t add any npc kids etc.
    Thx.
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    Sengra wrote: »
    fizl101 wrote: »
    My understanding is that it was a deliberate decision due to players being able to do not nice things to them, killing them probably being the least of it

    They could just be like quest NPCs though. And I've never seen anyone do weird stuff to kids in GW2, WoW or other games with children. And ESO is not moddable to that degree.

    Not that I really miss them, I just don't know how it makes sense.
    Well its an seasonal quest in WOW where you are to escort an kid to an location, they basically become your non combat pet.
    Having that quest up then you do dungeons or raids is very common :)

    Closest to kids in eso is probably Raz son.
    200px-ON-pet-Ja%27khajiit_Raz.jpg
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Wolf_Eye
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    zaria wrote: »
    Sengra wrote: »
    fizl101 wrote: »
    My understanding is that it was a deliberate decision due to players being able to do not nice things to them, killing them probably being the least of it

    They could just be like quest NPCs though. And I've never seen anyone do weird stuff to kids in GW2, WoW or other games with children. And ESO is not moddable to that degree.

    Not that I really miss them, I just don't know how it makes sense.
    Well its an seasonal quest in WOW where you are to escort an kid to an location, they basically become your non combat pet.
    Having that quest up then you do dungeons or raids is very common :)

    Closest to kids in eso is probably Raz son.
    200px-ON-pet-Ja%27khajiit_Raz.jpg

    I think that one is implied to be a regular senche kitty, and not an actual khajiit kitty. At least, that was my interpretation of it.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    By Mara's marvelous bosom....I'm worried about the reading comprehension, logical thinking and other things of this forum with a lot of these responses.

    Seeing children in lingerie? Murdered children? People doing things to them? The OP and others are talking about normal NPCs, which can already be set (and many already are) as non-killable and non-interactable with.

    Children exist in a lot of other games, including MMOs and I've not seen these kind of topics appear there.
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  • whitecrow
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    Seeing children in lingerie?

    Yeah that was really weird...
  • Lord_Boom10
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    Yes officer, this thread right here ...
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  • Ragged_Claw
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    Some of the comments on this thread underscore completely why ZoS don't, and never will, have child NPCs in game. Red flags galore.
    Edited by Ragged_Claw on November 18, 2021 5:19PM
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  • SirAxen
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    Kwoung wrote: »
    Maya_Nur wrote: »
    To be honest, I am a bit overwhelmed with the reasons and opinions of why children shouldn't be implemented in game... :/ I thought someone will say something like: "It doesn't interesting to me" or "ESO had no children from the beginnig", but things people are talking of... I couldn't even imagine all of this stuff (like adult things or killing), and hearing kids are annoying, well, this is different from my life experience.

    While I love my children very much, I generally found others peoples children to be quite annoying, and mostly misbehaved due to their upbringing. Of course I am much older and grew up in a different time and place, when we called other peoples parents Mr or Mrs, and not by their first name. My children are also grown and have lives of their own now, and as much as I love them, a visit now and then is plenty of quality face time for me. I would not want them moving back in... as a matter of fact, I would (and have) paid their rent to keep it that way.

    As for in game, beyond extreme levels of creepiness (on many levels), I do not see what they could add to the world of Tamriel.

    People thought the same thing about yours - don't worry. It's natural.
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    Xebov wrote: »
    Personally i dont see any problem with having children/teens as NPC and i honestly dont see a problem with them being killable.

    It is actually illegal in numerous countries to have killable (human like?) children in video games.

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    By Mara's marvelous bosom....I'm worried about the reading comprehension, logical thinking and other things of this forum with a lot of these responses.

    Seeing children in lingerie? Murdered children? People doing things to them? The OP and others are talking about normal NPCs, which can already be set (and many already are) as non-killable and non-interactable with.

    Children exist in a lot of other games, including MMOs and I've not seen these kind of topics appear there.

    I feel the same way. I also haven't seen this either. Beyond that there's just no way zos would make them killable, so you don't gotta worry about them "littering the streets" or whatever.
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    Since there're unkillable NPCs in the game (the ones that don't show any aura when targeted), I fail to see how players would do harm to unkillable kids. I support adding child NPCs, especially khajiit kittens.
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    SirAxen wrote: »
    Kwoung wrote: »
    Maya_Nur wrote: »
    To be honest, I am a bit overwhelmed with the reasons and opinions of why children shouldn't be implemented in game... :/ I thought someone will say something like: "It doesn't interesting to me" or "ESO had no children from the beginnig", but things people are talking of... I couldn't even imagine all of this stuff (like adult things or killing), and hearing kids are annoying, well, this is different from my life experience.

    While I love my children very much, I generally found others peoples children to be quite annoying, and mostly misbehaved due to their upbringing. Of course I am much older and grew up in a different time and place, when we called other peoples parents Mr or Mrs, and not by their first name. My children are also grown and have lives of their own now, and as much as I love them, a visit now and then is plenty of quality face time for me. I would not want them moving back in... as a matter of fact, I would (and have) paid their rent to keep it that way.

    As for in game, beyond extreme levels of creepiness (on many levels), I do not see what they could add to the world of Tamriel.

    People thought the same thing about yours - don't worry. It's natural.

    ROFL I know... especially my 2nd oldest... she just wouldn't stop crying as a baby.
    Nisekev wrote: »
    Since there're unkillable NPCs in the game (the ones that don't show any aura when targeted), I fail to see how players would do harm to unkillable kids. I support adding child NPCs, especially khajiit kittens.

    A video of some jerk (nicest way I could put it) doing something to a child in ESO, would probably be enough to get it banned from the countries that do not allow that in video games. Oddly enough, I think that a Khajiit/Orc/Argonian child maybe wouldn't count, or those other games that have children in them simply don't have the range of emotes that would allow for something untoward to be done.
  • Nightowl_74
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    It's weird that there aren't any kids around, although it was also weird how obnoxious they were in Skyrim. In most of the games I've played children are a minor presence, with a few being quest givers and most just there for extra dialogue or to help enrich the environment. I don't see a problem with that, as numerous people have mentioned they wouldn't need to be murderable. But only if they were toned down to act more like your average "normal" npcs than Skyrims.
  • CasgarTheSomnolent
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    It would vastly open up the possibilities of who I can Blade of Woe, so I fully support this.
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