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Vampire Scrolls Online
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Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭What did you expect from the Twilight generation?
Just stack on silver bolts +,..,+
I didn't realize Christopher Lee's multiple Dracula films were part of Twilight, or even the "recent" Underworld films, or Blade even....oh wait..!
How old are you that you think vampires = that garbage called Twilight? If that's all you can come up with, then I suggest you practice your trolling.
Edited by Zershar_Vemod on April 23, 2014 10:01PMHouse Nyssara (NA)
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Elencha✭✭✭
Sure does, Sanguini from Slughorn's party. He was a friend of the author that wanted to ghostwrite Harry's autobiography. Not to mention Voyages with Vampires, by Gilderoy Lockhart required reading for second year Defense Against the Dark Arts students and probably everyone else taking the course that year...
I am not much of a Twilight fan, does Harry Potter have vampires too?
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vizionblind_ESO✭✭✭There should be a big detriment to becoming a Vampire. Big sickness, powers weaken the longer you are a Vamp etc...0
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Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »There should be a big detriment to becoming a Vampire. Big sickness, powers weaken the longer you are a Vamp etc...
You mean like increased loss in health regen, fire damage, etc.?
Let me guess, someone killed you in pvp and you want to nerf them?
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foxsyd✭✭✭I was scarred by the vampire experience in Oblivion too. Got infected, didn't know till it was too late, then found out the quest for a cure was beyond my abilities. It was all up a horrible experience. Ended up having to rollback.Join my guild!
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✭I wanted to be a Werewolf, but it's absurd cost and pathetic abilities have caused me to get cured. I shall become a Vampire like every other player in Cyrodiil. Right now the positives far outweigh the negatives. Thus everyone will become a Vampire unless things change.0 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭It's because vampires provide more advantages than disadvantages.
If the min/maxers all go vampire for both pve and pvp, then you know it's a bad sign.
Vampire scrolls online coming ahead.0 -
TicToc✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »all everyone wants to be is a vampire. The ability to become one should have been MUCH MUCH rarer
Why should it be rarer? Every single person that played a previous TES game had the option to become a vampire, and I am guessing that many did. In this universe, it would not be that rare...for PC's any way. The vast majority of NPC's are not vampires. so they are still rare in the grand scheme.
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Rotherhans✭✭✭
I voted this awesome because I find it awesome that you´re gone.I found the cancel account button due to 'Twilight Online'. Paid for a ESO game not a vampire/werewolf emo furry goth simulation.
People, stop whining for nerfs at every opportunity when something doesn´t suit your (righteous?) vision or playstyle.
Especially in PvP!
Hate Vamps?
Join/create a Vampire Hunter guild instead of creating yet another whine thread on a tears inundated forum.
In other words ..
@mcatchlovb16_ESO I see your Kate Vampiress and raise for Rhona Mitra Version
P.S. would mercilessly stake both through heart.
Just can´t abide parasites, no matter how pretty the eyes.
Edited by Rotherhans on April 28, 2014 11:54PM“I'm not going out of my way looking for devils;
but I wouldn't step out of my path to let one go by.”― Robert E. Howard1 -
vizionblind_ESO✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »all everyone wants to be is a vampire. The ability to become one should have been MUCH MUCH rarer
Why should it be rarer? Every single person that played a previous TES game had the option to become a vampire, and I am guessing that many did. In this universe, it would not be that rare...for PC's any way. The vast majority of NPC's are not vampires. so they are still rare in the grand scheme.
because this is an MMO not a contained single player game1 -
Sarenia✭✭✭✭✭Rotherhans wrote: »Hate Vamps?
Join/create a Vampire Hunter guild instead of creating yet another whine thread on a tears inundated forum.I honestly don't understand why this hasn't been done.
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Rotherhans✭✭✭
Right!?!Rotherhans wrote: »Hate Vamps?
Join/create a Vampire Hunter guildI honestly don't understand why this hasn't been done.
Dunmer death squad...
I also mentioned it in the thread about Shoddycast´s MOLAG BAL lore intro
Maybe I should just launch a thread asking for support of a "Brood Cleanser" Guild.
Edit:Ah heck, if anybody is interested in such a "RP light" guild message me, so I don´t have to embarrass myself can try asking on the Guild board too.
Edited by Rotherhans on April 29, 2014 12:53AM“I'm not going out of my way looking for devils;
but I wouldn't step out of my path to let one go by.”― Robert E. Howard0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Despite the fact that he comes off a little complain-y, OP is actually correct. They are absurdly common now, and it probably should have been harder to get.
Good luck shoving the cat back into the bag."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
TicToc✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »vizionblind_ESO wrote: »all everyone wants to be is a vampire. The ability to become one should have been MUCH MUCH rarer
Why should it be rarer? Every single person that played a previous TES game had the option to become a vampire, and I am guessing that many did. In this universe, it would not be that rare...for PC's any way. The vast majority of NPC's are not vampires. so they are still rare in the grand scheme.
because this is an MMO not a contained single player game
Irrelevant. There is no need for them to be rare. It is a legitimate option in the game world. Everyone should have the opportunity to be one, if they choose.0 -
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✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »There should be a big detriment to becoming a Vampire. Big sickness, powers weaken the longer you are a Vamp etc...
Yeah here is the thing , usually vampires are OP monsters , they hunt people , and people dont get to fight back really.
So yeah , sure , make vampires not be able to go out during the day , make that if they dont feed they become weaker ...
BUT when you meet one at night , fully fed ... you better pray your 45 men raid is ready , cause you are going to die if you are not. Here is the thing about MMOs and balance , the bigger the drawback , the bigger the power you get."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »vizionblind_ESO wrote: »all everyone wants to be is a vampire. The ability to become one should have been MUCH MUCH rarer
Why should it be rarer? Every single person that played a previous TES game had the option to become a vampire, and I am guessing that many did. In this universe, it would not be that rare...for PC's any way. The vast majority of NPC's are not vampires. so they are still rare in the grand scheme.
because this is an MMO not a contained single player game
Irrelevant. There is no need for them to be rare. It is a legitimate option in the game world. Everyone should have the opportunity to be one, if they choose.
Except that now it's not a choice. It's the norm....and THAT is what's wrong with it.I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.0 -
foxsyd✭✭✭It's not so bad, and it's a sort of human realism for everyone to want to be vampires, they are seductive after all with their promise of powers and immortal life. How many times have you seen in vampire movies, stories, series etc. people pleading to be "made".
Role play the situation, Tamriel has a vampire epidemic. Either join them, all fight them by becoming a vampire hunter, or try to not become involved out of fear for your very life .
Personally, I'm going to be a vampire hunter. I like the idea of a hunter guild!Edited by foxsyd on April 29, 2014 2:48AMJoin my guild!
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Humor✭✭✭Personally, I could care less becoming either or (Vamp, Or Werewolf), I merely chose Werewolf because of how it was played out in Skyrim with the bonus to speed movement.
I disliked vampires in TES games because of the sun and what not, and I dislike Vampires in this game because -50% to fire damage. With the way my skills are setup, everything I use is pretty much fire, or applies a burning effect. I say bring on the vampires, and let em fry. I was never one to complain about "easy pickings" in PvP.0 -
foxsyd✭✭✭Note to self: next skill points are going to fire spells.Join my guild!
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✭✭✭Rotherhans wrote: »
Right!?!Rotherhans wrote: »Hate Vamps?
Join/create a Vampire Hunter guildI honestly don't understand why this hasn't been done.
Dunmer death squad...
I also mentioned it in the thread about Shoddycast´s MOLAG BAL lore intro
Maybe I should just launch a thread asking for support of a "Brood Cleanser" Guild.
Edit:Ah heck, if anybody is interested in such a "RP light" guild message me, so I don´t have to embarrass myself can try asking on the Guild board too.
I HEARD THEY'RE REFORMING THA DAWNGUARD!!!!
Sign me up please.
We need to wipe the out before things get worse.
Edited by PBpsy on April 29, 2014 2:59AMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
Elvent✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »all everyone wants to be is a vampire. The ability to become one should have been MUCH MUCH rarer
I wanted to be a vampire because they look cool but the cons of taking it turned me away =\
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phermitgb✭✭✭✭✭Probably going to get hate for this post, but I felt like I needed to add my 2 cents here. Some have been brave to do so, and I cannot do anything less:
Some people (like myself) have always found that being a vampire/werewolf complements their character. I didn't pick up vampire because I'm a Twilight fanboi. In fact, I'm really getting tired of all the references to that garbage.
My kind of vampire is Nosferatu, Dracula, or the kinds that I used to play in the Masquerade. I've played a vampire character since Morrowind. I agree, vampirism is a curse. I'm glad they made us look terrifying in the later stages instead of running with the Hollywood personification of the modern times.
What I don't agree with is people bashing others who make this choice. If you don't want the curse, good for you - that's your decision. Now let me make mine without throwing insults left and right. Adding additional punishments to the already plethora of weaknesses that this has in game? No. That just sounds like you're taking your personal values/vendettas and trying to staple them on others. This game is about balance. Vampires are very powerful right now and they have just as powerful a weakness.
If you start throwing in NPC hatred towards those who are in later stages then you should give vampires at least one skill to charm those NPC's. If you know anything about the old vampire lore, then you would know that they have the ability to sway mortals - not because of sparkles or whatever it is that passes for dogma these days, but because of their immortality and the power that comes with it.
While I generally respect your view, the problem isn't any one single person with your viewpoint choosing to be a vampire.
It's the HOARD...and this is one of the issues with a multiplayer game where a particular feature (like being a vampire, or a jedi), OUGHT, according to lore, be *relatively* rare, but in order to make it reasonably accessible to EVERY player, ends up engendering a hoard of people who all want to flood the world with what is *expected* to be a relatively rare occurrence.
I remember when I first heard about the release of Star Wars Galaxies, I thought to myself - oh great - everyone and their kid brother is gonna want to be a jedi, and then there's going to be 10,000 jedi running around during the galactic civil war NO THANK YOU!!!
Then, a friend of mine started playing, and told me they'd gated the Jedi class behind a rather heavy and rare set of requirements, and as such, while Jedi were still around collectively in larger numbers than they really should be, no single *player* came across so many jedi that it really broke believability, or at least only *stretched* credibility without breaking it outright.
But, as you might expect, some time later, I heard that they'd revamped the whole system, removed all the blocks from being a jedi, and sure enough, jedi started flooding the servers - while, as I understand it, people started leaving in droves (although, I understand they left for much larger reasons than just the increase in jedi)
So, I think at least *some* of the rage against the WANT TO BUY VAMPIRE!!! crowd, is the fact that the popularity AND accessibility of vampires and werewolves means that there's an uncharacteristic flood of vampires and werewolves in a world that has rather significantly built on the idea that vampires and werewolves are rare and significant, and have significant social impact on the world.
Or, if that got too convoluted...consider that a large population of the people playing ESO, INCLUDING many of those that *are* playing vampires and werewolves, are still expecting vampires and werewolves to be relatively rare. But they aren't. At least, they're not nearly as subtle and sub-rosa as we *want* them to be - and that's not to say that there's a hoard of vampire people walking around wayrest right now - I've come across exactly one that I've noticed in the last couple of weeks...but I know they're there - I know, because they're flooding the chat zones with ads to sell, and people are flaming all over the forums about it.
In short, the presence of vampires and werewolves is overwhelming in many players consciousness, and Elder Scrolls has generally established that vampires and werewolves should feel...relatively unique and significant, not common and constant.
that's *my* take on a lot of the rage, at least - hard to say how accurate my theory is, but it's at least one more idea..."There is no correct resolution; It's a test of character."
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Milktray✭✭✭If Vamp/WW are legimate options and since were in past SP it's supposedly ok .. then shouldn't we also have a sort of 'Dawn Gaurd' that people who wish to hunt down and slau, umm, capture? those who chose such?
When both are within x of each other, auto flagged pvp towards each other only, let them thrash it out. :-)
That then is within SP game and so should be a valid choice for those who don't want the Vamp/WW route but would like to hunt them down instead.
Add's in some World PvP for all three parties as well so all will be more careful about the choice.ZoS please understand everyone thinks and pronounces things differently, so please add to your 'rules' that things get removed if the Mod doesn't actually quite understand phrasing1 -
Delte✭✭✭matthewameluxenub17_ESO wrote: »lordspyder wrote: »It's cool, I'll take the easy PvP kills.
Ya know everyone always says this, but is there really any truth to this? Seems like all the vampires I've run into in Cyrodiil will play the game of cautiously sniping players and any time they get under fire, they just use that invisible skill and zip across the map. Impossible to kill, impossible to chase (perhaps with that sorc warp skill, but good luck trying to mount your horse since you will be "in combat" seemingly forever).
I don't think it is a coincidence that the majority of high ranking players are also vamps...
I was level 32 in Cyrodiil the other day in a guild group and ran across two veteran ranked players level 10. I killed the mage vampire with three shots from my Silver Leash ability from the fighters guild.
My only concern is that Silver Leash wont work on players.
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mips_winnt✭✭✭MercyKilling wrote: »Except that now it's not a choice. It's the norm....and THAT is what's wrong with it.
IMHO what's wrong with the whole thing is that players can "infect" other players (i.e. sell or give away "bites"), just make it so if you want to be a vampire or a werewolf you have to get infected by the appropriate mob and go through the quest line. If a player really wants to play a vampire or a werewolf they shouldn't have any objections to earning it.
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Kroin✭✭I like vampires in my group, as sonn as there is fire they are dead on the floor, i rezz them just to see them die once more
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ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭I like vampires in my group, as sonn as there is fire they are dead on the floor, i rezz them just to see them die once more
Must be stupid vampires. According to tamriel foundry posts you can bring down the fire weakness to 25% with one single fire res enchant.
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My kind of vampire is Nosferatu, Dracula, or the kinds that I used to play in the Masquerade. I've played a vampire character since Morrowind. I agree, vampirism is a curse. I'm glad they made us look terrifying in the later stages instead of running with the Hollywood personification of the modern times.
Whilst I don't share your views about vampires, your way of thinking is probably the only legitimate reason why someone would want to become one in the game. And also the rare way of thinking. Most people do not think like you, just go to Reaper's march and be ready to jump off a cliff after watching zone chat there. Most people, sadly, *are* the types of the twilight fanboys and fangirls and/or do it because they perceive vampires OP.
I absolutely dislike the whole vampire lore and what comes with it - but that does not mean other can not like it or should not like it, and I respect your opinion. I loved it in skyrim that I got bitten accidentally, and I had to go find a cure, and yes, being a vampire wasn't a blessing at all.
But you must agree that something needs to be done about the current vampire/ww situation, because it's way too easy to become one and bite selling is now turning into a whole economy, which goes completely against what you described above.
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GalindarfSoul ShrivenThere should be also area hunting ground for ww and vamps... they could fight each other and then there should be neutral players who just wants killing ww and vamps. You should get rewards from like 50 killings. You could trade those rewards to gain buff against ww and vamps
i am myself vamp, but i will later change to ww. 0