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What do we get if I name my kid after an in game ESO character :)

Eviction
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I am somewhat serious my son is about to be born and we don't have a name. The wife and I very much enjoy playing ESO and were just wondering.
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  • Mythreindeer
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    A lifetime of grief from your kid.

    Deservedly so.
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 21, 2021 10:18AM
  • spartaxoxo
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    A lot of bad jokes at your kid's expense and a judgmental look from many people here. Pickup a baby book.
  • UnkindnessOfRavens
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    Stuga. This is the way.
  • Vhozek
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    Bullied.
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  • Vhozek
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    I always suggest naming people by names that already exist but with different spelling if you wanna be somewhat more creative. You won't get to see the name you wanted to name your kid because society would have to get used to strange names without it first sounding like an absolute elaborate joke. Your kid might not even see it either. Another thing you could do is give them a normal first name and the middle name you want.
    Edited by Vhozek on August 21, 2021 4:19AM
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • GenjiraX
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    Probably laughed at. The names of people and places in TES/ESO are very poor. [snip] They’re mainly just a jumble of letters.

    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 21, 2021 3:50PM
  • Amottica
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    A lifetime of grief from your kid.

    Deservedly so.

    Great first reply.

    For the sake of your unborn child do not name them Stibbons.
  • Eviction
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    I can change the name afterwards it would be temporary :D
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  • Sheridan
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    Eviction wrote: »
    I can change the name afterwards it would be temporary :D

    How many tokens do you have? ;)
  • 16BitForestCat
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    All the people saying the equivalent of "give them a real name" can knock off because people have been naming their kids after pop culture characters for millennia. Many names we consider "normal" now were once considered unusual because they were the name of a popular character of the time. Just one modern example: Madison has been popular since the 1980s as a girl's name, largely due to the name of the mermaid in the 1984 Disney-Touchstone movie Splash. Most people nowadays have no awareness of this. They just think Madison is a nice name that has "always" been around for girls. I have a young relative named Madison; her parents were very amused to learn they'd unintentionally named her after a movie mermaid. :smiley:

    Name your kid something that has meaning to you, and which you hope will have meaning to the child. :) Your kid could have the most generic name in the world, and people will still make fun of it, so I've never seen that as a reason to go for the common names. People who want to be awful will invent a reason for it, anyway. Just look at the ESO forums. /salt

    I have an unusual first name myself, and over four decades later, I am still so glad my parents made up a name and didn't go with their first choice for me (which was the third most common name for babies born in my year, and has been one of the most common for centuries).

    The only downside is that no one can ever spell or say my name when they first meet me. I don't actually dislike that. I only dislike having to educate them, only to sometimes have them say, "I can't be bothered to remember that, so I'm gonna call you [Similar But Common Name] from now on." Never works out so hot for them, since I simply don't respond to it. :P That's on them for being stupid jerks who won't respect my name, not on me for having an unusual name and enforcing my boundaries, and not on my parents for giving me an unusual name.

    As to what you'll GET? A healthy kid with a cool name, I hope. :smile:

    P.S. ZOS employees Jay Barnes and Jessica Folsom named their child after ESO character Eveli (as in Eveli Sharp-Arrow)--different spelling, but pronounced the same way. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Eveli_Sharp-Arrow (Look in Notes.)
    Edited by 16BitForestCat on August 21, 2021 6:38AM
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  • Ippokrates
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    All the people saying the equivalent of "give them a real name" can shut up because people have been naming their kids after pop culture characters for millennia. Many names we consider "normal" now were once snickered at because they were the name of a popular character of the time. Just one modern example: Madison has been popular since the 1980s as a girl's name, largely due to the name of the mermaid in the 1984 Disney-Touchstone movie Splash. Most people nowadays have no awareness of this. They just think Madison is a nice name that has "always" been around for girls. I have a young relative named Madison; her parents were very amused to learn they'd unintentionally named her after a movie mermaid. :smiley:

    Name your kid something that has meaning to you, and which you hope will have meaning to the child. :) Your kid could have the most generic name in the world, and people will still make fun of it, so I've never seen that as a reason to go for the common names. People who want to be awful will invent a reason for it, anyway. Just look at the ESO forums. /salt

    I have an unusual first name myself, and I am so glad my parents made up a name and didn't go with their first choice for me (which was the third most common name for babies born in my year, and has been one of the most common for centuries).

    The only downside is that no one can ever spell or say my name when they first meet me. I don't actually dislike that. I only dislike having to educate them, only to sometimes have them say, "I can't be bothered to remember that, so I'm gonna call you [Similar But Common Name] from now on." Never works out so hot for them, since I simply don't respond to it. :P That's on them for being stupid jerks who won't respect my name, not on me for having an unusual name, and not on my parents for giving me one.

    P.S. ZOS employees Jay Barnes and Jessica Folsom named their child after ESO character Eveli (as in Eveli Sharp-Arrow)--different spelling, but pronounced the same way. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Eveli_Sharp-Arrow (Look in Notes.)

    Well, there is a difference between giving a name according to particular tradition, religious custom or in recognition of family relatives AND naming girl Khalessi before 8 season of GoT when she turnout to be fascist murderer ^^

    I mean, sure, ESO might be important for you. It is important for me. But you are talking about giving a name to person. This is something that would stick with them for whole life. Aaaand ultimately ESO is only a game.

    For example, during discussion under one of the YT video about ESO lore, to be precise: origins of inspirations for the TES races, people we discussing: Yes, Nords are inspired by viking, Imperial by Rome, Redgards by Middle East & North African culture... Etc. And someone ask, ok, but what with Khajiit. Well, their architecture look like South-Eastern Asia. But why? And then one guy, i think he was from Vietnam, said: because it is SIAMESE! ^^
  • pdblake
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  • Cactus_Back
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    I'd say it depends on the name. I wouldn't name my kid "Sheogorath" but "Darien" or something else that's more or less "normal" - sure, why not?
  • Blinx
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    Congrats!, What names do you have in mind?
    Edited by Blinx on August 21, 2021 8:32AM
  • 16BitForestCat
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, there is a difference between giving a name according to particular tradition, religious custom or in recognition of family relatives AND naming girl Khalessi before 8 season of GoT when she turnout to be fascist murderer ^^

    When you name someone after another entity real or fictional, you're naming them after the aspects you love (if you're a good person), not the flaws. Sometimes the flaws don't really come out until much later, but that doesn't change that you picked a name that had meaning to you at the time, and that you want the person you named to embody those good traits, despite whatever bad ones may come up related to "the original." When you name your son Harold after your grandpa Harold, I'll bet you aren't naming the baby after Grandpa Harold's tendency to shout bigoted language after he'd had a few drinks. You're instead naming him after all the good memories of Grandpa Harold. Yet people name their children after people who weren't perfect literally every single day.

    Personally, I wouldn't name my nonexistent children after (also nonexistent) Grandpa Harold BECAUSE of his bad traits, and I wouldn't name my never-existing kids after a character in a still-ongoing canon if that character runs a real risk of becoming everything I'm against. But there's not actually anything wrong with doing so, if you want to name your kid after the kinder, shy Khaleesi Daenerys of the early books/seasons, or name them after Grandpa Harold's good sides. It's really not going to be something that's going to come up in the kid's everyday life in the end, regardless. People move on from fandoms and forget them over time. Grandpa Harold's bad traits won't be associated with the child named after him, and probably won't be remembered much after he's gone.

    It's just a terrible idea to be so afraid of "what society thinks" that you let it color how you identify your own child from birth. It's a game you'll never win because of there always being awful people in the world.

    Edit: Go be disgusting somewhere else, itscompton. Though if you get too many more of your posts removed for abuse, I guess the mods will ensure you have no choice. /smirk
    Edited by 16BitForestCat on August 30, 2021 10:01PM
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  • FlamingMeat
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    Reported, suspended for 2 days, and issued a name change for having the same name as a character in the game.
  • rpa
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    It really depends of name picked but judging from quick peek of names in eso, borrowing 100000 Baby Names from nearest library just might be a better idea. Many of names appear like computer generated salad. You are not going to name your son Flicks-His-Tongue or something like that?
  • Hapexamendios
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    Best character I could think of to name him after is Darien Gautier.
  • phairdon
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    Bumnog :# You may not be allowed to name a child "The Prophet" or "vestige" :D
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  • Ippokrates
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, there is a difference between giving a name according to particular tradition, religious custom or in recognition of family relatives AND naming girl Khalessi before 8 season of GoT when she turnout to be fascist murderer ^^

    When you name someone after another entity real or fictional, you're naming them after the aspects you love (if you're a good person), not the flaws. Sometimes the flaws don't really come out until much later, but that doesn't change that you picked a name that had meaning to you at the time, and that you want the person you named to embody those good traits, despite whatever bad ones may come up related to "the original." When you name your son Harold after your grandpa Harold, I'll bet you aren't naming the baby after Grandpa Harold's tendency to shout bigoted language after he'd had a few drinks. You're instead naming him after all the good memories of Grandpa Harold. Yet people name their children after people who weren't perfect literally every single day.

    Personally, I wouldn't name my nonexistent children after (also nonexistent) Grandpa Harold BECAUSE of his bad traits, and I wouldn't name my never-existing kids after a character in a still-ongoing canon if that character runs a real risk of becoming everything I'm against. But there's not actually anything wrong with doing so, if you want to name your kid after the kinder, shy Khaleesi Daenerys of the early books/seasons, or name them after Grandpa Harold's good sides. It's really not going to be something that's going to come up in the kid's everyday life in the end, regardless. People move on from fandoms and forget them over time. Grandpa Harold's bad traits won't be associated with the child named after him, and probably won't be remembered much after he's gone.

    It's just a terrible idea to be so afraid of "what society thinks" that you let it color how you identify your own child from birth. It's a game you'll never win because of there always being awful people in the world.

    Ok, let me rephrase that.

    Tradition and family is part of a greater... social body ;) and because of that a name tied to it has a much more flexible recognition, than name related to particular art work or brand.

    [snip]

    So as you can see, naming a child after very specific thing, you are not in control of, could be quite risky -_-
    [edited for inappropriate content]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 21, 2021 10:35AM
  • Khenarthi
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    Some in-game names are perfectly fine as human names too. Alessia, for example, is a rather common name in Italy.
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  • vibeborn
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    Well some of the names in ESO are based on actual names, for instance there's a NPC named Viveka - that's the Swedish version of my name, and I also remember seeing a NPC with my late father's name.

    I mean as long as the name isn't something along the lines High King Lord Bard Sylvestus Gregorious, then I *personally* don't see a problem with it
  • CristiC
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    Well I have some friends that live in France that had a daughter and named her Yrenne, after Ayrenn. We play ESO together when we have time. She's 2 yo and she's already a queen of sass. Pick a name from the game and change to fit the region you live in. But if I lived in a nordic country in EU and had a son, it's Yandir all the way for him :)
    Edited by CristiC on August 21, 2021 7:57AM
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Razum-dar and give him a beige with red mohawk hoodie!
  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    Congratulations to your family and baby Smells-Like-Guar!
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  • 16BitForestCat
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    So as you can see, naming a child after very specific thing, you are not in control of, could be quite risky -_-

    Like I've already been saying, in the end, it's really no more or less risky than naming your kid after someone you know IRL. You never actually really KNOW anyone outside yourself, and even that can be debatable (L O L). I'm not going to get into what we found out about a few of my relatives after their deaths (or in some cases, while they were still alive) because it would violate forum TOS and be super triggering for some people, far worse than the celebrity you're talking about, and would have landed them in prison for life if they'd been caught. Kids--some are now adults with their own kids--were named after these awful relatives before their parents found out the extent of it, but those kids' lives have not actually been ruined by having those names. Nor does anyone think those kids are automatically going to be like their awful ancestors. They're completely separate people who were named for the good traits their namesakes were believed to embody at the time. It really doesn't matter if you name your kid for a cartoon character or a beloved relative, if we're boiling it down to "risk factors."

    Again, to everyone: there is nothing wrong with naming your kid for pop culture. There is nothing wrong with naming your kid for someone you know IRL. There is nothing wrong with making up a name. There is nothing wrong with picking a common name out of a baby book. Let people do what they feel is best for themselves and their family. Let them do their research to decide what is best and act on it. Don't shame or lecture people for doing something just because it's not what you'd do.

    (Minor edit for clarification!)
    Edited by 16BitForestCat on August 22, 2021 2:26AM
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  • spartaxoxo
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    As someone who was named after a tv show character, it can be exhausting as a kid. Lucky for me not many are aware of the character. Unlucky for me, this name is close to the name of 2 other famous people (one real, one fictional). The level of bullying I received as a young kid because my name was close to a popular villain of a tv show I actually really liked (which my parents could not have foreseen) was constant. It was genuinely awful. I struggled greatly to make friends.

    In this case, I don't blame my parents. My name is gorgeous, the character is obscure so rarely commented on. And they couldn't have predicted the future.

    Luckily for me, video games became an escape. But I had to put up with a lot of racism and sexism even on those, to the point I sometimes just completely hid who I was. It wad still preferable to playing with 90% of the kids that lived near me irl.

    Having the name of someone famous is NOT the same experience of having something reasonable and unique. The people who just think my name sounds pretty and don't know it from adam are only ever bothered by how to spell it. And I get a lot of compliments from them. The people who immediately think of a villain? Different experience.

    So yes, I have no issue judging people for naming their kid something famous that can be potentially damaging. Sometimes it works out well, but sometimes it doesn't. And you're rolling the dice with your kids well-being when you saddle them with a name that's about how you feel and not about how they have to navigate life.

    Give it some real thought. I'm not saying you can't be unique, but think about your culture and the kinds of named accepted there. Think about the pre-built support network they will have, including who will be around them their own age. Think about what will be viewed as merely different, and what will be viewed as a joke. Because its not you that will be the butt of it.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on August 21, 2021 11:26AM
  • colossalvoids
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    Be sure to grant the kid a name change token asap after at least.
  • CaperGuy
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    Stuga. This is the way.

    Then if they get lost in a Wal-Mart or grocery store you can be like “Do you know how long I’ve been looking for you!”
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  • Danikat
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    All the people saying the equivalent of "give them a real name" can knock off because people have been naming their kids after pop culture characters for millennia. Many names we consider "normal" now were once considered unusual because they were the name of a popular character of the time. Just one modern example: Madison has been popular since the 1980s as a girl's name, largely due to the name of the mermaid in the 1984 Disney-Touchstone movie Splash. Most people nowadays have no awareness of this. They just think Madison is a nice name that has "always" been around for girls. I have a young relative named Madison; her parents were very amused to learn they'd unintentionally named her after a movie mermaid. :smiley:

    Name your kid something that has meaning to you, and which you hope will have meaning to the child. :) Your kid could have the most generic name in the world, and people will still make fun of it, so I've never seen that as a reason to go for the common names. People who want to be awful will invent a reason for it, anyway. Just look at the ESO forums. /salt

    I have an unusual first name myself, and over four decades later, I am still so glad my parents made up a name and didn't go with their first choice for me (which was the third most common name for babies born in my year, and has been one of the most common for centuries).

    The only downside is that no one can ever spell or say my name when they first meet me. I don't actually dislike that. I only dislike having to educate them, only to sometimes have them say, "I can't be bothered to remember that, so I'm gonna call you [Similar But Common Name] from now on." Never works out so hot for them, since I simply don't respond to it. :P That's on them for being stupid jerks who won't respect my name, not on me for having an unusual name and enforcing my boundaries, and not on my parents for giving me an unusual name.

    As to what you'll GET? A healthy kid with a cool name, I hope. :smile:

    P.S. ZOS employees Jay Barnes and Jessica Folsom named their child after ESO character Eveli (as in Eveli Sharp-Arrow)--different spelling, but pronounced the same way. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Eveli_Sharp-Arrow (Look in Notes.)

    I agree with all this.

    Taking names from popular culture is older than written history. The names Anthony, Anton and all the other variants come from one of the sons of Heracles, who was called Anton. People have been naming their children after characters from stories probably as long as we've had stories...or names.

    But what's a 'pop culture name' and what's a 'normal name' comes and goes. I only found out the name Wendy was made up for Peter Pan a few years ago, when a colleague named Wendy was critcising some people are work for laughing at someone's name on a form and saying their parents had obviously lifted it from whatever book they were reading at the time. As she said it only takes a few years of people using that name for it to become 'normal' and accepted, and other names which used to be quite popular fall out of use and then become 'weird' names that people assume parents only chose to try to be different.

    Also I don't think there's any way to give a child a name which everyone will always know how to spell and say. My name is Katy, it's 4 letters long and absurdly common (at least in the UK where I live) but I'm forever having to spell it out for people because they're not sure if it's Katy or Katie or mishear and thing it's Kate or Kathy, or decide they know better than I do what my "real" name is and write down Katherine or Kathleen or whatever they imagine Katy must be short for. (It's not, my full legal first name is Katy.)

    Add in the fact that the world is becoming increasingly international, with people moving to different countries for work (or simply to live somewhere different) or working with people from all over the world and the chances that anyone can go through their whole life only meeting people from their culture who will understand that their name is "normal" and know how to spell and say it is getting increasingly unlikely, no matter what their parents choose.
    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, there is a difference between giving a name according to particular tradition, religious custom or in recognition of family relatives AND naming girl Khalessi before 8 season of GoT when she turnout to be fascist murderer ^^

    When you name someone after another entity real or fictional, you're naming them after the aspects you love (if you're a good person), not the flaws. Sometimes the flaws don't really come out until much later, but that doesn't change that you picked a name that had meaning to you at the time, and that you want the person you named to embody those good traits, despite whatever bad ones may come up related to "the original." When you name your son Harold after your grandpa Harold, I'll bet you aren't naming the baby after Grandpa Harold's tendency to shout bigoted language after he'd had a few drinks. You're instead naming him after all the good memories of Grandpa Harold. Yet people name their children after people who weren't perfect literally every single day.

    Personally, I wouldn't name my nonexistent children after (also nonexistent) Grandpa Harold BECAUSE of his bad traits, and I wouldn't name my never-existing kids after a character in a still-ongoing canon if that character runs a real risk of becoming everything I'm against. But there's not actually anything wrong with doing so, if you want to name your kid after the kinder, shy Khaleesi Daenerys of the early books/seasons, or name them after Grandpa Harold's good sides. It's really not going to be something that's going to come up in the kid's everyday life in the end, regardless. People move on from fandoms and forget them over time. Grandpa Harold's bad traits won't be associated with the child named after him, and probably won't be remembered much after he's gone.

    It's just a terrible idea to be so afraid of "what society thinks" that you let it color how you identify your own child from birth. It's a game you'll never win because of there always being awful people in the world.

    Also people who want to make jokes and comments like that will find a way to do it no matter what.

    One of my nieces is called Juliet and people are forever calling her a drama queen. She's 2 years old, of course she makes a huge fuss about everything, every 2 year old does. But with her brother or sister is them being upset or stubborn or tired or whatever, with her it's being a drama queen, because she has a name people associate with a character from a play.
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