JJOtterBear wrote: »You also have to consider that listening to players does not equal doing anything players demand.
Yeah. That would make sense. But do you remember the mael arena weapons fiasco?
The entire community was enraged, they wanted zos to do it properly. What we got? Nothing. They did not listen at all. What we got is a short answer from B.W. and that was it.
So yeah. As i said earlier they only consider it but never do it. Its basicly the usual we do that what we and that 1% percent of player base who we "support" think is good. Its always like this.
On the rest 99% they only listen to the bug reports and not the game building l.
That short answer is proof they listen. It wasn't the answer you wanted but it was an answer.
JJOtterBear wrote: »You also have to consider that listening to players does not equal doing anything players demand.
Yeah. That would make sense. But do you remember the mael arena weapons fiasco?
The entire community was enraged, they wanted zos to do it properly. What we got? Nothing. They did not listen at all. What we got is a short answer from B.W. and that was it.
So yeah. As i said earlier they only consider it but never do it. Its basicly the usual we do that what we and that 1% percent of player base who we "support" think is good. Its always like this.
On the rest 99% they only listen to the bug reports and not the game building l.
That short answer is proof they listen. It wasn't the answer you wanted but it was an answer.
more likely its proofs that. they not do what the player base asked.
A_Silverius wrote: »Not even sure if they listen to themselves tbh.
The reason that zenimax never listens is because PvE is prioritised over PvP. Brian wheeler in an interview even admitted it. Most balance changes are made around PvE. Each time he tries to make any sort of good change to PvP he cannot make it happen due to higher powers at zenimax. But even then they still don't listen. Who on earth wanted companions ? Very little actually wanted them. According to zenimax the introduction of companions was for people to do dungeons and overland solo for the story and make people less anxious about grouping up. The vast majority of people wanted a direct introduction of a solo Dungeon/Trial option. But no zenimax wanted companions. Why ? Because its another asset the can make money from in the long run. They wouldn't make money from such a direct option of a solo Dungeon now would they. As soon as zenimax was forced into not having a subscription manditory, all of our voices now silenced. As zenimax wants the money some way or another. Money reigns supreme in all walks of life. Many will do well to remember this.
TempPlayer wrote: »Yes and No. It depend on whether your opinion align with their objective or not. And their main objective is of course, as with any capitalistic company, maximize profit. Maybe surprising but it have nothing to do with gameplay mechanics or content.
The player base never speaks with one voice, one viewpoint.
If they asked us what shade of red the sunset should be, the answer would include all shades of red, green and purple, some stripes, checks, the odd polka-dots and a fish.
No matter what colour they eventually use, the majority of the player base would probably think they weren't listened to.
The player base never speaks with one voice, one viewpoint.
If they asked us what shade of red the sunset should be, the answer would include all shades of red, green and purple, some stripes, checks, the odd polka-dots and a fish.
No matter what colour they eventually use, the majority of the player base would probably think they weren't listened to.
Um Cyrodiil lag? *Elephant in the room waves back and continues to glitch*
JJOtterBear wrote: »You also have to consider that listening to players does not equal doing anything players demand.
Yeah. That would make sense. But do you remember the mael arena weapons fiasco?
The entire community was enraged, they wanted zos to do it properly. What we got? Nothing. They did not listen at all. What we got is a short answer from B.W. and that was it.
So yeah. As i said earlier they only consider it but never do it. Its basicly the usual we do that what we and that 1% percent of player base who we "support" think is good. Its always like this.
On the rest 99% they only listen to the bug reports and not the game building l.
That short answer is proof they listen. It wasn't the answer you wanted but it was an answer.
more likely its proofs that. they not do what the player base asked.
starkerealm wrote: »They listen. It's not even a question. It's just that they don't cater to our every (conflicting) whim.
FlopsyPrince wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »They listen. It's not even a question. It's just that they don't cater to our every (conflicting) whim.
How do you know this?
starkerealm wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »They listen. It's not even a question. It's just that they don't cater to our every (conflicting) whim.
How do you know this?
Because I've met them.
adriant1978 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »They listen. It's not even a question. It's just that they don't cater to our every (conflicting) whim.
How do you know this?
Because I've met them.
It would be nice if they put a bit more effort into communicating the information you are apparently privy to with the player base at large. We aren't all influencers, streamers, the kind of people who can attend conventions, etc.
The dev comments in the patch notes are a good start but we could really use more in depth posts by ZOS on here explaining their reasoning behind doing or not doing things which come up repeatedly in the community.
For example the information you provided about "console hardware issues" was news to me. I'd like to have read that in a post from the devs themselves talking about the compromises they have to make in order to keep a unified experience across platforms.
starkerealm wrote: »The comment about console hardware limits came from one of Rich's recent streams on Twitch.
adriant1978 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »The comment about console hardware limits came from one of Rich's recent streams on Twitch.
I had a suspicion this might be the case. I do wish Rich would spend a bit more time writing up this kind of information in readable, searchable form and a bit less time making videos but I'm probably just showing my age at this point ... now get off my lawn!