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Does Zos listen to its player base?

Togal
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Just wondering how much zos listens to its players, please use the poll!

Does Zos listen to its player base? 255 votes

Yes they do listen all the time
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No they do not listen at all
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  • DreadDaedroth
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    They listen when there's something to nerf.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    Other: Sometimes yes
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Kusto
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    Other: they seem to listen when enough people complain or ask for something but when they buff/nerf, they go completely yolo, instead of tweaking carefully, and it ends up being bigger mess than before.
  • Iluvrien
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    Other: when it fits with their existing plans, when they think a PR disaster might be in the offing, or when being handed a new way to monetise the game by a player.
  • Togal
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    No they do not listen at all
    Oh rip forgot to add other option, my bad lads.
  • AdamLAD
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    No they do not listen at all
    The reason that zenimax never listens is because PvE is prioritised over PvP. Brian wheeler in an interview even admitted it. Most balance changes are made around PvE. Each time he tries to make any sort of good change to PvP he cannot make it happen due to higher powers at zenimax. But even then they still don't listen. Who on earth wanted companions ? Very little actually wanted them. According to zenimax the introduction of companions was for people to do dungeons and overland solo for the story and make people less anxious about grouping up. The vast majority of people wanted a direct introduction of a solo Dungeon/Trial option. But no zenimax wanted companions. Why ? Because its another asset the can make money from in the long run. They wouldn't make money from such a direct option of a solo Dungeon now would they. As soon as zenimax was forced into not having a subscription manditory, all of our voices now silenced. As zenimax wants the money some way or another. Money reigns supreme in all walks of life. Many will do well to remember this.
  • DreamyLu
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    Yes they do. But they don't have free hands. Lot of factors are setting limits to what they can do. And actions follow within the given boundary conditions.
    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA
  • ZigoSid
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    They listen yes. The real question is more, did they care or not ? And then, it depends on multiple factor.

    If we ask something that concern the actual year content or major QOL issues or money grabbing, and that's not too crazy or too hard to do, MAYBE they'll do something.

    But once it concern previous years, the chances drop drastically. Like when they added an active icon to the Harrowstorms, I still can't believe that they "forget" to add one for dolmens and geysers at the same time ...

    Or those stupid rice bags in South Elsweyr, I'm pretty sure that this kind of things take 10 minutes to change but no, they're like "lol it's 2 years old ! Meh don't care !"

    Edited by ZigoSid on July 31, 2021 7:22AM
  • adriant1978
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    They probably do their best, but they likely really only listen to self-appointed "influencers" like streamers and popular guild leaders. At most they might take note of very noisy forum threads.

    None of these is listening to the player base as a whole though, the majority of whom are not influencers and probably not active on the forum.

    I suspect they "listen" to their metrics and stats much more.
  • agegarton
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    No they do not listen at all
    They don’t listen, in fact they often explicitly ignore the player base.

    Worse, their communication with the player base is poor and there’s no excuse for that given the wealth of communication channels that are available to them in the 21st century.

    There are hundreds of examples of changes that have proved incredibly unpopular, we’re unwanted or unasked for, and equally hundreds of opportunities that have been missed over the years. I suppose the good news is that there are hundreds of things ZoS could do to really engage the player base and add to and improve the game.

    Thankfully the game itself is bigger than ZoS. It’s still the best out there - at least for now - and the community is awesome. That’s why I keep playing.
  • Narvuntien
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    They listen but it tends to take at least 6 months to act on it or longer.
  • VaranisArano
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    Yes, ZOS listens to their playerbase.

    Just don't confuse listening with doing exactly what the playerbase wants.
  • ADarklore
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    No they do not listen at all
    They used to listen... they used to participate here in the forums... but not anymore. It used to be extremely common for Gina and Jessica to comment, but now it's extremely rare to see any of the ZOS team joining in on conversations here. Now the only people we usually hear from are the forum MODS.

    So it's really difficult to actually see any aspect of them 'listening' when they aren't providing us with direct feedback to our input. Especially when you hear of them stating they're listening to players when they make adjustments that nobody on the forums have mentioned except perhaps a streamer talked about. Yet, those streamers rarily speak for the majority, which neither does the forums, but at least the forums have more of a pulse on the people who are playing the game. Although on the flip side, many of the people who spend so much time on the forums tend to be people unhappy with the game in one way or another, because those who are happy are actually spending their time playing the game and not here on the forums. :)
    Edited by ADarklore on July 31, 2021 12:08PM
    CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
    ~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~
  • JanTanhide
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    No they do not listen at all
    Sort of but they listen to the Shareholders the most. It's a business so they need a new influx of players constantly since it's FTP. They should have stayed with the Subscription based model.

    ZOS listens to the PVP playerbase more than anything else. Constant nerfs and "balancing" is done mostly for the 1% of the playerbase. I know, I will get attacked by the PVP crowd over these statements but look at all of the changes in the game for the past 7 years and see what was done for PVP VS what was done for PVE. Completely one sided.

    The PVE players are leaving in droves as well as the PVP players. The game can not be "balanced" for PVP. It simply is not possible. You cannot balance two very different aspects of the game on the same server. ZOS "adjusts" the game "balance" with nuclear hand grenades over and over. The old players have had enough and are leaving or have canceled their subscriptions and only do the most basic in the game like logging in and out waiting and hoping for the day ZOS stops all this nonsense balancing.

    The PVP crowd constantly complains about everything not being balanced. It goes in cycles from one class to another until those classes are destroyed with nerfs. Then they move on to another class and figure out how to make those classes strong and the cycle continues. More complaints and eventually those classes are gutted.

    Remember Wrobel? LOL. I do. Maybe he had it right.
  • waterfairy
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    No they do not listen at all
    they listen but ignore our most basic of requests for years like "hide hip flap/shoulders toggle please" and "please stop adding hip flaps to new styles"...at the end of the day they do what they want for the game and rarely what the players want though every now and then they throw us a bone for being good doggies
  • Ryuvain
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    No they do not listen at all
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    That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
    Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
  • Ard01
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    No they do not listen at all
    They do not listen
  • TwinLamps
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    Where is the option "Yes, if you main magsorc" or " No, if you play DK"?
    Awake, but at what cost
  • SilverBride
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    I think some may be confusing ZoS listening to us with ZoS giving us everything we ask for.
    PCNA
  • Kalle_Demos
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    No they do not listen at all
    *Continues waiting patiently in Bosmer*

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    "If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn
  • gariondavey
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    No they do not listen at all
    Insert Barbosa meme "well yes but actually no"
    PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden
  • Darena_Bryant
    I feel like this is a little too much a set of extremes. I'm not one to even judge, honestly. I don't know these people well enough to say they ALWAYS listen or NEVER listen, and I think most players, even the oldest ones, also don't really know... they're just going to comment based on their opinions being responded to or not. In some cases people (and we know how people can be) will have suggested something once a long time ago, and if it never happened, will have a horrible opinion of the dev from then on, or vice versa. Others will say they don't because 'that's what everyone says, so it must be true', despite not having any way to have spoken to 'everyone'.

    I've seen this in other games as well; people who play the game anywhere from consistently to obsessively, but HATE it with all their being and never have anything good to say about it. ...Why? Why linger in a game you hate, talking crap about it? Just close your account, delete your characters, go play one of a million other games you could enjoy so much more, and enjoy yourself. And if you like things about the game, why not focus at least a little on those, instead of whatever hangup you have unless its majorly game breaking or puts you in the first category... which brings me back to my question of why?

    I do NOT think this is a perfect game, but it IS a very good one. I enjoy playing it, and it's engaging and interesting. If we look at dev and producer behavior in the last ten years, I have NEVER seen a company that complete adheres purely to the demands of their playerbase, so asking 'always' or 'never' is pretty unfair. And if you speak to anyone in the game about 'why is it so hard to get this?' or 'why does so much involve the cash shop?' the usual, and instant response is a dismissive 'Well, do you think they can keep this going without money?!' (At least it is for me.) If everyone knows this, then how and why are so many people complaining about the monetization of the game? I mean do we accept it as the norm, or do we resist it enough to affect a change?

    I'm rambling a bit, but basically I think this kind of question needs a much broader range to be answered in any fairness to either the devs or their producers. All or nothing seems way too narrow of a gauge.
  • ADarklore
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    No they do not listen at all
    JanTanhide wrote: »
    Sort of but they listen to the Shareholders the most. It's a business so they need a new influx of players constantly since it's FTP. They should have stayed with the Subscription based model.

    ZOS listens to the PVP playerbase more than anything else. Constant nerfs and "balancing" is done mostly for the 1% of the playerbase. I know, I will get attacked by the PVP crowd over these statements but look at all of the changes in the game for the past 7 years and see what was done for PVP VS what was done for PVE. Completely one sided.

    The PVE players are leaving in droves as well as the PVP players.
    The game can not be "balanced" for PVP. It simply is not possible. You cannot balance two very different aspects of the game on the same server. ZOS "adjusts" the game "balance" with nuclear hand grenades over and over. The old players have had enough and are leaving or have canceled their subscriptions and only do the most basic in the game like logging in and out waiting and hoping for the day ZOS stops all this nonsense balancing.

    The PVP crowd constantly complains about everything not being balanced. It goes in cycles from one class to another until those classes are destroyed with nerfs. Then they move on to another class and figure out how to make those classes strong and the cycle continues. More complaints and eventually those classes are gutted.

    Remember Wrobel? LOL. I do. Maybe he had it right.

    Care to post where you are getting your numbers from? I haven't seen any group 'leaving in droves' other than in PVP who are trying out another MMO beta at the moment. Otherwise, I still see tons of people in open world every single day.
    CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
    ~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~
  • DarcyMardin
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    Yes. Whether they agree with what the players say is another matter entirely. And even if they do agree, the problem might be a lot harder to fix than the players imagine,
  • Fhritz
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    Yes, but they can't do everything the community is asking for, because 100% of the community will NEVER agree on the same things
    I'm a single character man.
    Stamblade. Khajiit. Mostly pvp.
    And...that's it.
  • redspecter23
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    If the options were simply yes and no, I could easily vote yes, but they do not (and can not) listen "all the time" as their audience are often asking for different, contradictory things.

    They most definitely listen to a lot of feedback, especially when presented with respect, but there is no way they can please everyone all the time. That would be impossible.
  • Iluvrien
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    Yes, ZOS listens to their playerbase.

    Just don't confuse listening with doing exactly what the playerbase wants.

    At this point, I don’t need them to do exactly what I want. I’d settle for them ceasing to do exactly what I don’t want.
  • kargen27
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    People are still confusing listening with getting the answer you want. Players wanted housing we got housing. Players wanted flying mounts we didn't get flying mounts. In both cases ZoS heard the player base requests. The answers were different.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Vevvev
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    Other: Sometimes yes

    ^^^^^

    They do but whether they agree with us and implement it is a different story.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • FR0STDEE
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    Yes they do listen all the time
    Yeah of course they do.

    Remember when everyone was asking for companions.
    Like the forums was completely flooded with request for companions.
    Companions, companions, companions, everyone was screaming for companions.

    And ZoS delivered………………….yay.
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