SilverBride wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

As is, we do vet dungeons and trials all the time. Practically living in these areas, as much as we enjoy them, there's still the entire rest of the game which dwarfs it in size and content and running the same few things over and over again is tedious.

That is the price of character progression. Content will become easier as the player becomes stronger. That does not mean all content should keep getting harder to keep up with the player.

The price isn't tied to character progression. It is tied to how much someone knows of how to play the game. That knowledge for some shouldn't invalidate content.

If the game is too easy for you, there are LOTS of things you can do to increase the difficulty WITHOUT increasing the difficulty for everyone else.

Remove your CP.

Use untraited gear.

Use lower level gear.

Reduce skill points in skills, passives, etc. to taste...

Use novel sub optimal builds.

Doing these things will increase the difficulty and you can modify it until you get the balance you like. none of these things will impact the difficulty for anyone else, only you and it requires zero work on behalf of ZoS.

If after doing this the game is still too easy for you...well maybe you should go back to Dark Souls or some other unforgiving SINGLE player game.

SilverBride wrote: »

Because feedback is important for helping improve the game and keeping players happy. But feedback goes both ways. When someone presents an idea they have to be prepared for the fact that not everyone will agree with it.

Yes, feedback is important, so why stifle it?

SilverBride wrote: »

This has been answered multiple times in multiple threads. My biggest issues with it are that overland is for every player of every skill level and is for questing and telling the story. It is not reasonable to expect a veteran level of the base game, especially if it would provide an unfair advantage to those players with increased rewards, which has been debated. Overland is not supposed to be hard.

No it hasn't. This is not an answer. Overland is currently not for every skill level. It is only for beginners. Everyone else has grown out of It. There USED to be veteran version of the base game, so your whole premise that overland should not be hard is simply your opinion.
Besides, I'm not proposing a seperate vet version (which you keep arguing against, I guess because its the easiest argument). I'm suggesting a personal slider that adjusts the battle-levelling that is applied to my character. We are currently already boosted to lvl50/cp160 in overland. I'm just suggesting that the slider adjust how much we are boosted(or nerfed if over cp160). I may end up fighting the same mob with someone set to easy and they 2 shot it and grab all the loot. That's fine..I don't want better/more loot. I have seen no current argument against this aside from 'nobody would use this', despite several here saying 'I would'

SilverBride wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

I don't do trials but don't argue against adding more, because I understand that others enjoy them. They do me no harm, so why would I try to spoil others enjoyment?

I have never argued against them either, and why would I? I realize there are players who like more of the challenge than the base game provides. That is why we have veteran dungeons, trials and arenas. But it is unreasonable to expect the base game become veteran content, optional or otherwise, when we already have content for that purpose.

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I've already said. Dungeons/trials are a different style of game.. Minimal questing, repetitive group content. Very different. You realize there are people who like this, yet won't realize there are those who want difficult questing, despite us saying 'here we we are!'

There is a reason there are multiple Skyrim mods that increase difficulty. There IS a demand for questing with challenging content.

SilverBride wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

No matter how much you try to frame this conversation that way, that doesn’t remove the fact that there are new players and casual players who find the combat in Overland and Questing boring.

Then maybe this isn't the game for them.

Many people play ESO for the world it takes place in. Some, like myself, enjoy both the world and the gameplay. Overland does not take advantage of that as most enemies play it like a turn based game, and it fails to live up to what the game can be. This bores players who enjoy the gameplay to the point they can't enjoy the world, and discourages newer players from diving deeper into the gameplay because the world doesn't try to properly represent it. This is a good game with fun gameplay and an amazing world, having a place where you can enjoy both of these would be good for old and new players alike, and I feel telling new players off for being board of the disengaging overland isn't good for the long term health of the game.