Vampire Skill Tree Bugged

blackwolf7 · April 2014

The question is when?? And if it is a sure fix or not. Patch 1.1 could be nxt month or nxt nxt month.

Azymuth · April 2014

So...nerfs 1st...ofc...god forbid we can actually have fun with OP pve for a few days like unbalanced aoe dk emeprors did in PVP since their skills work (clever builds and all that). Not to mention it will still take 10+days (if that forum post is recent), just in time to have us resub.

K might have (partially) rushed to judgement this time unless those patch notes are incomplete or they drastically change (which they can) BUT this "Vampire passive abilities will no longer stop working when your character dies." and this"You’ll see fixes for quests and skill line abilities" look good, assuming they work and include ultimate cost reduction. From the wording it makes you wonder, Bat Swarm doesn't bug on death. Need full list of skill line fixes when it releases,

Also: luls WWs got a nerf (just on 1 thing but...nerf...rly). Only 1 stage of a thing that you will out level rather fast but the ONE patch note line they get is that, and maybe some "skill line fixes"?!

TheBull · April 2014

Yeah, the poison mist bug is super lame. Cost me two respecs. I had to do it twice to make sure I wasn't doing it wrong... Video below...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b2I8YIvTEGE
Confirmed, ticking too slow, and not enough.

blackwolf7 · April 2014

bump

AlliN · April 2014

those things were bugged in early beta. I posted about them on beta forums with every beta release.

Almost a year, no changes. They care. Like EA.

blackwolf7 · April 2014

dont let them drown this thread!!!! PLS fix vamp passive bug ASAP you already have the fix ZOS! Just implement it

blackwolf7 · April 2014

The fix is coming for 2-3 weeks I wonder if ZoS can apply the fix next maintenance since i figured the patch is already ready. It was on the patch 1.1 together with other class skills fixes. I think it would be better to apply some of those patches in case some bugs again occurs, it will be easier to point out what went wrong

Darkro · April 2014

This is what some vampire abilities do in PVP and they need a NERF asap.
In this video you can see a single vampire tanking over 100 players without dying. This is as broken mechanic as it can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Darkro wrote: »

This is what some vampire abilities do in PVP and they need a NERF asap.
In this video you can see a single vampire tanking over 100 players without dying. This is as broken mechanic as it can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM

Actually, DK + vamp + emperor armor is the one who is OP.

VAMP alone doesnt make you OVERPOWERED so vamp isn't really the problem here. If you observed carefully, he doesn't even spam vampire's mistform and ult.

so yea you should learn how to check videos first before stating something is OP.

It is very easy to counter vamps i kill them all the time provided there's only 10lvl gaps between us. above that it will be hard.

you just need to learn how to counter some builds imo.

and you can see that those zergs are low level and they are trying to take down a VR vamp who is wearing emperor armor.

Darkro · April 2014

blackwolf7 wrote: »

Actually, DK + vamp + emperor armor is the one who is OP.

VAMP alone doesnt make you OVERPOWERED so vamp isn't really the problem here. If you observed carefully, he doesn't even spam vampire's mistform and ult.

so yea you should learn how to check videos first before stating something is OP.

It is very easy to counter vamps i kill them all the time provided there's only 10lvl gaps between us. above that it will be hard.

you just need to learn how to counter some builds imo.

and you can see that those zergs are low level and they are trying to take down a VR vamp who is wearing emperor armor.

Scrubie dear, read it again, I mentioned some vamp abilities are Overpowered to the brink that the caster is immortal. I just gave you a random video that happens to be dk/emperor. Last night I saw a nighblade and a templar (not emperor) doing something very similar. We couldn't kill them, we couldn't stun them, we couldn't silence them and we were 50+ veteran 1-10 people.
Tip: Check top 20 ranks in any cyrodil campaign. They are all mostly using a very similar spec to farm points very easy.

Also, this ability is also used with same potential in pve. I know this, since some of my friends have started using this in dungeons and they just run trough it solo in vr10 dungeons and everything dies left and right, without them having any problems or downtime.
Hint: they make around 500k -1 milion~ gold a day with this in pve, assuming they play 8-9 hours straight.

But as long as they do something to it in pvp, they can keep it as it is in pve, I don't care, and I am sure you don't care either.

Regards

Nehemia · April 2014

Darkro wrote: »

This is what some vampire abilities do in PVP and they need a NERF asap.
In this video you can see a single vampire tanking over 100 players without dying. This is as broken mechanic as it can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM

I've seen one former emperor attempting to abuse this. Everyone knew what to do, the emperor splat to death within 2 seconds. So much for that "OPness".

Nacario · April 2014

Im also experiencing said bugs.

Darkro · April 2014

The only way to counter it is for everyone to spread out so the vamp cant life steal so much, but seeing as 90% of people in cyrodil are not running organized, that's something hard to accomplish.

Sjored · April 2014

Also having these bugs.

LjMjollnir · April 2014

Passives being disabled happening all the time.. very annoying.. 8(

Also people confused about Dark Stalker...

Increases Movement speed while Sneaking and Allows player to enter Stealth more quickly at Night.

seperate the 2 sections and you get this
Increases Movement speed while Sneaking.
Allows player to enter Stealth more quickly at Night.

Sneak speed is ALWAYS on.
Entering Stealth is Quicker at Night only.

quite simple... nothing difficult about it.. and thats exactly how it works in game.. (when the passive isnt lost to dying).

MeIkor · April 2014

I don't know about that vampire fix. It states that vampire passive no longer stop working upon death. The things that did this was night stalker, the regeneration ability and possibly undeath. The vampire stage reset didn't happen upon death it happened when ever you logged or zoned to a different area. I hope this does fix this though. Also still no fix for poison mist. I'm just gonna respect and call it working as intended but tooltip wrong. It's ridiculous

Kraun · April 2014

Also, sometimes when you die (atleast in Cyrodiil), the passives stop working, no sneak speed, no higher magicka/stamina regen, but the negatives stay (more fire damage & reduced health regen)

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Its not sometimes ive confirmed it many times when you die, the reduction cost comes back to normal

Morbus2 · April 2014

ZoS, please fix the vampire bugs. I beg you.

The reason I bought this game was because I REALLY enjoyed playing Oblivion as a Vampire and I thought how cool it would be to be a Vampire in an Elder Scrolls MMO. I don't care about any other bug or problem the game is having as much as I care about this one.

Again, please fix sooner rather than later.

Thank you.

Gilvoth · April 2014

bump

Azymuth · April 2014

For the zillionth time, it's not dying that bugs costs it's loading screens, if you guys have been spamming the wrong bug reports don't wonder later when that 1.1 patch hits and ultimate is still 200 cost most of the time. Die and use a soul gem and you will see. Dying does bug the passives and not only for vampires and those get fixed on loading screens (oh the irony). Also it's tooltip bugs for costs (except ult).

This is not a bump cuz they went with the HORRIBLY WRONG decision to compound a million fixed in 1.1 so gonna wait for that now.

Also let me put it this way: Got 3 vampire characters (two at lvl 5 since I cba to lvl again and get angry every time I go into a public dungeon and stuff bugs) and still looking for a WW bite for that 4th so... until I can be a vortex of death and bats and blood (even with a *** 6 targets cap on aoe skills) with 70%+ uptime (stage 4 ult cost 50 with no bug) AT LEAST in PVE there will be no resub. (And also another minus on decision making about how to handle problems ZOS.)

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Oh yeah if you use a soul gem it remains the same; if yoy wayshrine the cost goes back to 100%

blackwolf7 · April 2014

They will be applying a patch this maint on tuesday hope this gets fixed

Azymuth · April 2014

Nah, probably not, the 1.1 patch is gonna be in PTR for at least 1 week (or 10 days or more) since 23rd or 24th. If it goes live May 2st on Friday we can consider ourselves lucky. Also I can't find any news about any patch this Tuesday, it's just the regular maintenance (which may or may not happen and may or may not contain any patch/hot fix).

blackwolf7 · April 2014

I just hope they apply the fix asap as I want to play vamp. It just makes no sense playing vamp currently because youre just asking yourself to take 50% more fire dmg without any benefit or minimal benefit.

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Morbus2 wrote: »

ZoS, please fix the vampire bugs. I beg you.

The reason I bought this game was because I REALLY enjoyed playing Oblivion as a Vampire and I thought how cool it would be to be a Vampire in an Elder Scrolls MMO. I don't care about any other bug or problem the game is having as much as I care about this one.

Again, please fix sooner rather than later.

Thank you.

Were on the same boat ;c

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Can any ZoS representative reply to this thread ?

if ever you guys can release the fix for this earlier than patch 1.1

3 weeks seems pretty long

Sjored · April 2014

Still no official word on this?

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Nope i hope that patch tomorrow fixes this though

blackwolf7 · April 2014

Patch is 10-11 hours from now! Please ZoS for the love of kyne! Fix thissssss