I would kill for Portside shave to be available...

I saw this sentence in the thread and find it funny x)

I'm nervous about anything interesting being in the crates tbh.

When the PTS cycle started they actually gave us the Iron Atro crates from the preorder even though they weren't even officially revealed. I opened mine and just got basic trash (only the potions etc. rewards) so I thought it just wasn't programmed in, but someone did get some of the datamined stuff in theirs. Makes me think that if there had been anything fun in there, the news would have spread far and wide.

Now they may be incomplete and could still be adding things, which would explain why that thread died quickly and why mine had no rewards above 'fine' level, so maybe I won't give up all hope, but ZOS hasn't exactly been listening to all of us begging for it to release. I tried to check again on the EU PTS, but my game just crashed at the crate screen so I don't know if that's because the crates are not really set up yet.

I really really want them to finally release Short Mussed Wave already. I'm at the point that I don't care how. If they wanted to make bank though, all they need to do is release SMW (and Velsa's style) the same way they did the Hailcinder Elk mount - as a bonus with the 3000 crown pack. That would be a bonus for the newbie boom they're hoping for to get Crowns, and it would force all of us players to buy Crowns at base value instead of using our stockpiles or Crown sellers in game.

Until then, I'll just have to look at Bastian and complain the whole time about how much I wish I could get his hairstyle...
I guess I need to figure out another style for my next character since ZOS doesn't want my money to get the style I wanted.

Well, we're getting a hairstyle in this month's showcase... but not one of these NPC ones.

Standing Wave did disappear from the store without warning back in February of 2020, so it has been unavailable for 15 months now. Still, that pales in comparison to the 43 months that Heroic Poet was unavailable, or the 53 months that Wavy Triple-Braided Updo hasn't been seen.

Not to mention of course the continual lack of Short Mussed Wave. I swear every DLC brings a few NPCs with that style... I can only count a few NPCs ever that use things like Barbaric Windblown, but I can count a few NPCs every DLC with Short Mussed. And of course, we'll soon get to see Bastian and his hundreds of clones all taunting us with that style.

I really wish that, whatever is preventing ZOS from releasing it, whether it's the lack of an Argonian morph or whatever, they would get over it and just put it out. It can't be that they want to make Nicolas feel unique, considering the number of NPCs that they've given that style to. What, we can't have it, but you have no problems giving it to the enchanter in Leyawiin or the countless Jester's Fest NPCs?

It's obvious the character designers love that style. We're making so much noise about wanting it (and other styles) to release. Who's the person who's looking at this and saying "nah, we don't need their money."

STILL no Portside Shave. At this point the devs are just ignoring us.

From the way things are looking, the iron atronach crown crates are going to consist primarily of pets, mounts & body markings for the most part, few Deadlands themed furniture items & iron atro styled weapons. As much as I want any hairstyle, preferably short mussed wave or heroic poet in these crates... I have a bad feeling that this season also will not contain one as well, just like what happened with the Ayleid crates.

Looks like we might be taunted by Bastian's hair for a long time to come if that is the case.

JazzyNova wrote: »

Something I discovered, apparently there is an NPC in Stormhold wearing the hairstyle shown in the crystalfrost skin promo.

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Back:

That's the hairstyle I've been waiting for

The part I don't get, is that releasing already existing hairstyles is basically as close as it gets to printing free money. There's at least 5+ styles now that are only seen on NPC's.

Besides, stuff like extra hairstyles should always be available in the store year round! I've long since lost count how often I've told to new players or friends who recently picked up ESO like, 'oh yeah that style you like isn't available right now but may pop up again some day if the stars align'.

JazzyNova wrote: »

As much as I want new hairstyles to come out & ones long retired to return, it is getting more & more difficult to hold out hope for them anymore, especially with the continued focus on housing, mount & pet reskins.

I'm with you on that one. Every showcase has a bunch of pets, and I think we've only gotten hairstyles in about seven or eight of the monthly showcases since the Crown store started, even though hairstyle mods are huge for the single-player Elder Scrolls games. A lot of people are also asking for the same hairstyles too (Heroic Poet, Short Mussed Wave, and Velsa's seem to be the most popular), so it feels like the Crown Store marketing team isn't looking into this forum at all...

I wonder what the marketing team is thinking sometimes - when they did the CP rework, they said the average account CP was around 400 or so, which suggests that they've got a lot of new/casual players who may not have been around for a long time. And yet there are so many cosmetics that have been out of the store for over 3 years at this point. Do they really think there's not a market for this?

I'd even add a few things to your list: Here's a list of all hairstyles in the game at present. Each has an item ID and can be linked, but not all have actually been made available for sale.

Jorunn's, Zeira's, and Velsa's hairstyles technically don't exist in the files as collectibles (and Velsa's technically was seen on an NPC even earlier than the TG DLC, since it's also Fa-Nuit-Hen's from the Orsinium DLC, Nov 2015). The same was true about things like the Misanthropic Lycanthrope hairstyle - it existed on NPCs since the Wolfhunter DLC, but the collectible wasn't added to the game until it was found in the Crown Crates. As such, it has an item ID of 8049 while the basegame styles (the ones in the Cosmetic Pack: Hair Styles) have IDs 492-583. It's even got a later ID than the newest hairstyle that was made, Seafarer's Crowning Trim, ID 7625. That means I wouldn't expect these to show up anytime soon until the collectibles get added in, even as popular a request as Velsa's hairstyle is.

However, there are a bunch of styles that are in game, so all they need to do to be made available is for someone to put them up for sale. It's interesting to note that some of the Crown store hairstyles have earlier IDs than the basegame ones and some are later, and yet not all of those have released. So far the following styles exist in the files and on NPCs, but never went live at any point.

• Warrior Topknots (465)
• Portside Shave (466)
• Short Mussed Wave (470)
• Mid-Parted Shoulder Length (1049)
• Fluttering Forehead Feathers (1050)
• Assassin-Style Sunset Crest (1054)
• Color Streaked River Braid (1320)

Those first three are interesting, since those item IDs are lower than the basegame styles, so they were added to the game at the same time (along with the first few styles in the store and from the first few crate seasons). All three were also available to use on PTS at one point. And still, none of those ever made it live. And then there are the styles like Heroic Poet and Wavy Triple-Braided Updo that have been in the store at one point, but have now been completely unavailable for over three and a half years - I imagine many players were not around for all that time, so that's a whole market that could want to buy it.

The worst part about Short Mussed Wave is that it is such a hotly requested style, has been in the game forever, and it's still not available to players while it's put on so many NPCs. I'd wager the list of all NPCs with Short Mussed Wave is longer than the list of all NPCs with any other unreleased style... it's so used on NPCs that it's probably close to the list of all NPCs with unreleased styles combined. There's no hairstyle that looks even close to it, and yet we still don't have it after all this time despite it (quite literally) following us everywhere now.

I'm really sad that it doesn't look like Short Mussed wave is coming, even though everything is set up for it to release. I've tried submitting /feedback about it since now that I've got Bastian behind me I'm seeing it everywhere, but I can't imagine that would do much. Mostly I'd just like it for my next character. I like to take screenshots and document the story, so pretty well if I don't have that style soon, I'll just have to start without it (and then I won't need to buy it since I don't want to retake every screenshot once they finally do decide to release it). I've heard a lot of people say similar things - that they're waiting for something to drop in the store, but then decide to just go with a different option because they're sick of waiting and then don't need to spend the money once what they wanted does exist. I know I'd throw money at the store if they dropped that style.

Please, ZOS, It's about time that we're thinking of next month's showcase. Please have some of these styles in there! Don't let us keep being barred from using a hairstyle that's we see everywhere that we're all dying to get.

Just noticed this in the promo image from the Midyear Mayhem article. A character on a mount who looks like he has either heroic poet or short mussed wave, the redguard woman in the middle has Zeira's hair & the altmer on the far right has Veya's hair.



I am crossing my fingers that we see Zeira's hair or Veya's hair in the next datamine, but I don't have my hopes up. It seems like these hairstyles are becoming more commonplace than ever now on all sorts of NPCs. Plus there is an altmer NPC, Ylahizu the Magnificent, found in Blackwood during random encounters who can possibly transform you into a maormer with Veya's hair as well.

I know it's probably not ingame yet, but I really want a Karen haircut for one of my characters. It would be funny.

Well, no good news in the latest datamine - there's a hairstyle, but it's just a yellow version of The Standing Flame. None of the NPC styles.

But I did notice something else - there are a few NPC styles we missed. Obviously Emeric's and Ayrenn's (but Ayrenn's is actually part of her helmet, not a hairstyle), but Lyris also got a new braid with Greymoor that's modelled on and not textured.

Then there's this one - seen on two of the random non-interactable training vampire NPCs in Greyhome from the Markarth prologue:

I haven't seen this one anywhere else in game.

Also for facial hair - we've mentioned the woven beard that Sir Craig Lescher and Gherig Bullblood have, and the Argonian feathered beard found on Dust-On-Scales and the dude modelling Fluttering Forehead Feathers on the first page, but I haven't seen Thane Svynne's lynx chops around

Also Tayfern fro mthe Markarth main quest is wearing Poet's Stubble and Tied Imperial Goatee together.

Us: Well, there aren't many NPCs involved in the dungeon DLCs, so we'll likely be getting an update without having to see someone wearing Short Mussed Wave, right?

ZOS: Meet Weylin, the questgiver for Red Petal Bastion!




I guess the September showcase'll come soon, and then there will be the Grim Harlequin crates and the Blackwood event next month as well. Still, I highly doubt that any unreleased hairstyles will go up in the showcase or be some of the event rewards, and I don't know if they'll have any hairstyles in the new crates beyond Yellow Standing Wave.

I'm still hoping they'll eventually figure out that this is a popular hairstyle and finally release it, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I've just started my character that I wanted to give this style to and I had to go with my second choice hairstyle. Yeah, I can change it at any time if they ever do decide to release it, but I'm one of those people who does screenshots and storytelling, so changing something cosmetically would mean redoing all of the screenshots...

Knowing my luck, that style will release when I'm about 3/4 of the way through questing - still not at the end so I can justify changing things, but also far enough from the beginning that it'd be an insane amount of work to redo all of the shots.

With the exception of the atrocious standing wave and all its variants, hairstyles are the one thing I always buy, regardless if I can immediately use it on a character, since it's just nice to have the options available.

ESO's relentless content and fashion updates still amaze me to this day, but at the same time it's incomprehensible how such a simple thing (well in comparison to whole new zones, dungeons and armour looks) like new hairstyles isn't added on a regular basis, especially if there's already over 10 of them already seen on NPC's across the world. They could add one new style a month, and in a year we'd still see new hairstyles in the store! Everyone likes hairstyles, gimme that skooma please.

As someone who is still appalled by how BAD MOST of the hairstyles are I will say that we desperately need options! I'm so tired of using the same 3 hairstyles for 17 characters! LOL

I know this is a super wild suggestion, but I would love for the long elven braid to also work on... you know... elves.