So are PlayStation gamers just gonna get screwed over from here on out?
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✭✭Take your complaints to social media forum like Twitter or Reddit - from experience, ZOS hardly ever bothers to address anything in this forum.4 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game has ALWAYS ran buggy and laggy on ALL platforms. Why are you taking it so personally. Microsoft acquiring Zenimax Media has nothing to do with it.
In fact I just watched a bit about how Sony's little system requiring your console to constantly sync to their servers could potentially brick your unit and even leave you unable to play any of your titles on PS4 once they drop the servers supporting it because of PS5.
So yeah, maybe you SHOULD blame Sony.
You play XBOX right? thought so...lol.
Your point being?
My point being is if this was an ongoing Xbox issue ...wait you'd be cool with it. See the one thing We console players have in common is we're all peasants...underlings, but one day we will rise up goddmt, lol.
In all actuality I'm just having fun with the maint issues I'm in my cubicle at work rn and like poking at Xbox users, all fun no animosity ArchMikem . You have a great rest of your day
It technically is an ongoing Xbox issue. It's an ongoing issue for all platforms, that was my initial point. I'm not bashing Playstation at all, I was arguing the OP clearly stating there's some Playstation discrimination going on, which is pretty bogus to claim. ZOS wouldn't undermine an entire platform intentionally, that takes revenue away, regardless of who owns them now. That's why I asked why these guys are taking this so personally, this isn't a platform specific problem.
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✭✭The game has ALWAYS ran buggy and laggy on ALL platforms. Why are you taking it so personally. Microsoft acquiring Zenimax Media has nothing to do with it.
In fact I just watched a bit about how Sony's little system requiring your console to constantly sync to their servers could potentially brick your unit and even leave you unable to play any of your titles on PS4 once they drop the servers supporting it because of PS5.
So yeah, maybe you SHOULD blame Sony.
You play XBOX right? thought so...lol.
Your point being?
My point being is if this was an ongoing Xbox issue ...wait you'd be cool with it. See the one thing We console players have in common is we're all peasants...underlings, but one day we will rise up goddmt, lol.
In all actuality I'm just having fun with the maint issues I'm in my cubicle at work rn and like poking at Xbox users, all fun no animosity ArchMikem . You have a great rest of your day
It technically is an ongoing Xbox issue. It's an ongoing issue for all platforms, that was my initial point. I'm not bashing Playstation at all, I was arguing the OP clearly stating there's some Playstation discrimination going on, which is pretty bogus to claim. ZOS wouldn't undermine an entire platform intentionally, that takes revenue away, regardless of who owns them now. That's why I asked why these guys are taking this so personally, this isn't a platform specific problem.
But you have a good rest of your day too! I got off work super early today.
In all seriousness I 100% hear what you're saying...but you got to admit its quite funny and or coincidental since Sony and Microsoft are console competitors and now they own Zenimax Studios (fr fr...how many articles have you read or came across since that had the the sky is falling for PS users now that Bethesda is under Microsoft ownership<--is it bs 99% chance it is but it stirs the pot). When its the forums you know claims like this are absolutely bound to get posted. Poking a little fun is all part of it.
Also, we all know some can overreact but like someone stated earlier regardless if ZOS reads or cares what's written in these agitated posts its a place to vent a bit. Having others come in a tell somebody who is clearly upset to calm down or go to PC or argue their "outlandish" discriminative claims just kind of stirs the pot...but then again that's the forums right? I mean look at the R.I.P. PC EU thread... 100+ pages of agitation...I feel their pain too.Edited by Odovacar on April 5, 2021 9:28PM2 -
PrayingSeraph✭✭✭✭✭I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....0 -
Lixiviant✭✭✭✭✭PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
But, are you able to at least load the game?5 -
PrayingSeraph✭✭✭✭✭B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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However currently on Xbox, menus are lagging to the extreme and there's 50% chance the game will freeze when you access any bank or trader. Considering these are crucial aspects of gameplay, this utterly refutes the idea that ZOS is showing favoritism towards Xbox. The game may be more broken on PS, but it's still broken on Xbox.
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It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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PrayingSeraph✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »
It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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Define level of service. Do you mean service as in what the game currently is offering? Yes I agree things are currently worse for Playstation.
Or do you mean service as in what ZOS is prioritizing investigating and fixing? If so, then by all means show proof that ZOS cares less for what's happening on Playstation than other consoles.
My point is, this conspiracy nonsense that PS players are getting purposely screwed is silly and without merit.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 6, 2021 3:30PM4 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »So not only does this game run like absolute garbage and is completely unplayable in Cyrodiil as well as being littered with bugs but now we have to wait 11 hour maintenances because we purchased a PlayStation instead of an Xbox?
And now ZOS are blaming Sony even though it’s not Sony that coded this absolute disaster of a game it’s you ZOS! It honestly wouldn’t even surprise me if this is some kind of plot to get people to switch to Xbox! This is pathetic and you should be absolutely ashamed ZOS.
Your implied correlation is that it's ZOS fault the game doesn't work well live despite having internally tested it and it running fine. Clearly the issue today has to deal with some kind of problem caused by PSN itself and the game, something that wouldn't show up on an internal test.
But if you want to go ahead and jump to some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory that they're purposefully sabotaging a Multiplatform game on the platform with the highest number of owners to make less money then be my guest.
The game never runs fine...ever. Sometimes it is less buggy than other times, but it is never 100% fine.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »
It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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Define level of service. Do you mean service as in what the game currently is offering? Yes I agree things are currently worse for Playstation.
Or do you mean service as in what ZOS is prioritizing investigating and fixing? If so, then by all means show proof that ZOS cares less for what's happening on Playstation than other consoles.
My point is, this conspiracy nonsense that PS players are getting purposely screwed is silly and without merit.
It is not silly or without merit to think that a company will not care as much about their competitor as themselves. This is a natural part of competition. Nobody made the claim that they are purposefully sabotaging Playstation.
You attempting to discredit the idea that internal policy may partially explain delays by using irrelevant information and strawman arguments doesn't make an idea have more or less merit.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 6, 2021 3:31PM1 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »
It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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Define level of service. Do you mean service as in what the game currently is offering? Yes I agree things are currently worse for Playstation.
Or do you mean service as in what ZOS is prioritizing investigating and fixing? If so, then by all means show proof that ZOS cares less for what's happening on Playstation than other consoles.
My point is, this conspiracy nonsense that PS players are getting purposely screwed is silly and without merit.
I don't know, I'm starting to come to a different conclusion: Sony doesn't want competitors on their platform, taking money out of their pocket. I mean, all one has to do is swap MS with Sony, and it's exactly the same conspiracy theory, only given what I know about Sony, it's a lot more plausible. I mean, I had to replace a HDD in my computer because of Sony's rootkit fiasco, all for just playing a CD. So if I were to cosign any conspiracy theories on this, I'd be laying the blame at Sony's feet. Isn't it odd, don't ya' think, that these issues would start now, after MS acquired ZoS?
So they convolute their backend even more, to make their customers rage quit. Makes perfect sense to me.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 6, 2021 3:34PM0 -
Alpharos7✭✭✭Just to throw my two cents using- no PlayStation users will not be screwed over, and people are reading into these outages too deeply.
It's already been confirmed that ESO is getting a PS5 upgrade, and I highly doubt ESO will do anything to purposefully disenfranchise its PlayStation player base, especially as it brings in alot of money.
Looking further ahead, Elder Scrolls 6 will be such a big money spinner that it will definitely be on PS5. As for Starfield, that could be XBOX exclusive, but depending on how fat through its development it is, it may be that it will be for PS5 too.
Could we see patches / DLC for Microsoft first? Yes very likely, but this has been going for years with other companies. Its just how video game companies work.PS5 EU (UK) 668CP - Avid Roleplayer and Elder Scrolls fan!
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✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »And now ZOS are blaming Sony
Oh, is that how you read Gina's comment? Because I read it as meaning "Sony is helping us figure out what is causing the issue so we can fix it," not "We are helping Sony figure out what is causing the issue so they can fix it." Nowhere did I see any wording which suggested that ZOS is "blaming Sony" for the issue.
This is corporate business talk, there is no developer that will outright say “this is Sony’s fault” but they are heavily implying that this is a Sony issue instead of the truth that this is a poor coding issue caused by ZOS.3 -
Lixiviant✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »And now ZOS are blaming Sony
Oh, is that how you read Gina's comment? Because I read it as meaning "Sony is helping us figure out what is causing the issue so we can fix it," not "We are helping Sony figure out what is causing the issue so they can fix it." Nowhere did I see any wording which suggested that ZOS is "blaming Sony" for the issue.
This is corporate business talk, there is no developer that will outright say “this is Sony’s fault” but they are heavily implying that this is a Sony issue instead of the truth that this is a poor coding issue caused by ZOS.
Well said. Zos can't seem to fix the problem(s) and is reaching out to Sony.Edited by Lixiviant on April 5, 2021 10:01PM0 -
Recast85x✭✭If this issue were PSN, I'd expect other Playstation games to be broken too. They aren't.
This is a zos issue.7 -
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✭✭✭Folk blaming MS lol. This game has been a joke on PS for well over a year now. Low textures, awful draw distance, loading issues, issues logging in, blue screens galore, server issues etc etc. This time tomorrow or the next day some of you PS gamers will be back on these very forums staunchly defending the overpriced fluff in the CS like some of you do. The relevance? If you keep ploughing money into this game blindly ZoS can and will drag their heels sorting the PS issues out.
I've not given this company a penny of my cash for close to a year now and have zero intention of doing so until they sort their **** out with this game. Giving them even a penny is telling them this game is worth supporting in its current state on the PS4.0 -
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✭PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »
It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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Define level of service. Do you mean service as in what the game currently is offering? Yes I agree things are currently worse for Playstation.
Or do you mean service as in what ZOS is prioritizing investigating and fixing? If so, then by all means show proof that ZOS cares less for what's happening on Playstation than other consoles.
My point is, this conspiracy nonsense that PS players are getting purposely screwed is silly and without merit.
It is not silly or without merit to think that a company will not care as much about their competitor as themselves. This is a natural part of competition. Nobody made the claim that they are purposefully sabotaging Playstation.
You attempting to discredit the idea that internal policy may partially explain delays by using irrelevant information and strawman arguments doesn't make an idea have more or less merit.
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As ESO was pre-Microsoft acquisition I don’t see how Microsoft would get any revenue whatsoever from any property before the agreement. That’s like a company saying they’re entitled to profits despite having done no work to gain it.
Business-wise it’s smarter to do profit splits with anything post consolidation and separate anything from before that as just Zenimax profits. They’re still two companies, not one. Zenimax was not absorbed into Microsoft. Books need to be kept separate.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 6, 2021 3:36PM0 -
PrayingSeraph✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »
It does not follow that an issue they have been unable to fix on any platform means that PS4 isn't experiencing uniquely awful service. PS4 IS getting a completely different level of service than PC and XBOX. And saying otherwise is a false equivalency. The question is NOT is PS4 getting a different level of service the past 2 weeks, but why.PrayingSeraph wrote: »
.B0SSzombie wrote: »PrayingSeraph wrote: »I'm confused TC. Xbox users are currently experiencing a utterly broken bank and menu system. Things are not rough just for Playstation....
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Define level of service. Do you mean service as in what the game currently is offering? Yes I agree things are currently worse for Playstation.
Or do you mean service as in what ZOS is prioritizing investigating and fixing? If so, then by all means show proof that ZOS cares less for what's happening on Playstation than other consoles.
My point is, this conspiracy nonsense that PS players are getting purposely screwed is silly and without merit.
It is not silly or without merit to think that a company will not care as much about their competitor as themselves. This is a natural part of competition. Nobody made the claim that they are purposefully sabotaging Playstation.
You attempting to discredit the idea that internal policy may partially explain delays by using irrelevant information and strawman arguments doesn't make an idea have more or less merit.
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As ESO was pre-Microsoft acquisition I don’t see how Microsoft would get any revenue whatsoever from any property before the agreement. That’s like a company saying they’re entitled to profits despite having done no work to gain it.
Business-wise it’s smarter to do profit splits with anything post consolidation and separate anything from before that as just Zenimax profits. They’re still two companies, not one. Zenimax was not absorbed into Microsoft. Books need to be kept separate.
I'm not disagreeing. Rather I am pointing out it makes little sense for MS to screw over(directly or indirectly) PS ZOS paying customers post-acquisition. MS's history with other multiplatform companies such as Rare and Mojang shows evidence of this.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 6, 2021 3:36PM2 -
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✭✭Microsoft has nothing to do with it. Console performance has been trash since launch and same with most games. Just move to pc if you want good experience.1 -
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✭✭✭Microsoft has nothing to do with it. Console performance has been trash since launch and same with most games. Just move to pc if you want good experience.
Unless you've been attempting to jam a SNES cartridge into a disc based console, your console comment is nothing but the usual hot air spouted by those who love to parrot others. Seriously, "most" games? Maybe you should just stick to commenting on PC games.
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Recast85x✭✭Microsoft has nothing to do with it. Console performance has been trash since launch and same with most games. Just move to pc if you want good experience.
Its been awful on PC too. The cyrodil issue wasn't console only. The light attack bug wasn't console only.
Whatever zos did they did *only* to PS players and whether or not it was intentional, the timing is awfully suspect.3 -
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