Fanged Worm and Horned Dragon styles droprate

Magdalina · February 2021

What the heck is the deal with those? They're BOP, they're an outfit style (meaning way moar pages than a normal motif, 1 per weight etc), they drop only from the BGs reward coffers that you can only get once per day (per toon, but still) - and, in addition to that, it's not once per day after reset but once per 20/24 hours so gods forbid you can't game at your usual time one day - you're gonna miss out on that coffer then. For me they only ever seem to drop like every 5th or even 10th coffer (I didn't even realize Horned Dragon was actually a thing til like a month of daily BGs on 2 toons). So...if I counted right, there's (7 armor pieces in 3 weights + 10 weapon styles) 31 style pages, so 62 for 2 styles...with droprate like that it'd literally take years to get all of them with no way to speed it up other than making 18 PvP toons for daily BGs.

Did I miss something there? Why on Tamriel would you do that?! It's not like they're even best motif in game or anything, they're simply a very slight reskin of Fang Lair/Scalecaller Peak motifs which you can farm just fine with no cooldown or need for alts. Why would you gate something like that behind such crazy timesinks?

All I want is Fanged Worm chest - in either weight, really, although heavy kinda seems the coolest - because I love the looks but the original Fang Lair version looks too bulky with those books at the hips, Fanged Worm looks much better with the alchemy things. But dat grind...that's just silly.

gatekeeper13 · February 2021

I agree. But the drop rate was designed that way to make you play BGs daily.

DreadDaedroth · February 2021

I feel for you it took a couple of years before I found the horned dragon hat,

colossalvoids · February 2021

Pretty sure I still miss a belt or something after years of bg's, it's kinda annoying but oh well.

BohnT2 · February 2021

You think that's the worst part?
Both of those fail to update the loot table once you've collected them meaning the RNG can give you the same page you already got again which then results in no visible style page in the box.
The result is that it takes exponentially longer to get the next style page.

I know people sweating BGs every day since those style pages have been added and they still miss out on some of them with up to 2 months between drops.

Greek_Hellspawn · February 2021

I am one of a few that actually has completed both sets but all i do is playing bgs so for me it wasn't really a grind to get them.

Peppo_Lives · February 2021

I completed both sets in over two years, doing bgs almost every day with 3 to 6 toons (depends on luck/cooperating teammates)...so i really feel for you, OP

Fischblut · February 2021

It's not like they're even best motif in game or anything

For me, some of items from these motifs are best in the game (totally unique looks)

Pretty sure I still miss a belt or something after years of bg's, it's kinda annoying but oh well.

I still miss Fanged Worm pauldrons... But I stopped doing daily Random BGs on many characters very long time ago.

colossalvoids · February 2021

Just checked, lacking horned heavy chest, med legs, heavy feet and heavy waist. So it's even worse lol. Couple of years to go, seems right.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

It would be great if there was a way to buy the styles you needed with some sort of currency that only drops from BGs. Save a lot of frustration.

I'm currently doing 1 BG a day (whichI might do more after the tribunal celebration) and I've found that being unkillable is much better than being able to kill easily in BGs, because only team deathmatch really requires killing and even then with the right group you can gang up on people trying to kill you.

I'd always get the most kills in BGs but that would rarely get me the most points.

Magdalina · February 2021

BohnT2 wrote: »

You think that's the worst part?
Both of those fail to update the loot table once you've collected them meaning the RNG can give you the same page you already got again which then results in no visible style page in the box.
The result is that it takes exponentially longer to get the next style page.

I know people sweating BGs every day since those style pages have been added and they still miss out on some of them with up to 2 months between drops.

Oh god...that's REALLY not inspiring lol.

Fischblut wrote: »

It's not like they're even best motif in game or anything

For me, some of items from these motifs are best in the game (totally unique looks)

I do like some of them, but I'm not too fond of most of them being copies/extremely similar to Fang Lair/Scalecaller motifs. Imo if you're gonna gate something behind a grind like THAT, it must really be something absolutely amazing, unique and awesome. Instead they took 2 dungeon motifs, altered a couple things here and there and just threw them in...[snip]

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Ry1500 · October 2022

Magdalina wrote: »

What the heck is the deal with those? They're BOP, they're an outfit style (meaning way moar pages than a normal motif, 1 per weight etc), they drop only from the BGs reward coffers that you can only get once per day (per toon, but still) - and, in addition to that, it's not once per day after reset but once per 20/24 hours so gods forbid you can't game at your usual time one day - you're gonna miss out on that coffer then. For me they only ever seem to drop like every 5th or even 10th coffer (I didn't even realize Horned Dragon was actually a thing til like a month of daily BGs on 2 toons). So...if I counted right, there's (7 armor pieces in 3 weights + 10 weapon styles) 31 style pages, so 62 for 2 styles...with droprate like that it'd literally take years to get all of them with no way to speed it up other than making 18 PvP toons for daily BGs.

Did I miss something there? Why on Tamriel would you do that?! It's not like they're even best motif in game or anything, they're simply a very slight reskin of Fang Lair/Scalecaller Peak motifs which you can farm just fine with no cooldown or need for alts. Why would you gate something like that behind such crazy timesinks?

All I want is Fanged Worm chest - in either weight, really, although heavy kinda seems the coolest - because I love the looks but the original Fang Lair version looks too bulky with those books at the hips, Fanged Worm looks much better with the alchemy things. But dat grind...that's just silly.

Why has this still not been addressed?

heaven13 · October 2022

It’s even worse because one of the patches a few years ago, ZoS fixed the drop of the three basic styles (Stormlord, Pit Daemon, and Fire Drake) to be more player friendly but never updated these.

boi_anachronism_ · October 2022

Yeah it's rough. I literally just gave up. I had been grinding bg regularly and I've gotten 2 horned dragon and one fanged worm in months of play.

heaven13 · November 2022

Please, for the love of the all the divines, fix this. Battlegrounds are already not fun currently (and I typically like the objective based game modes) and it's even worse when you get to the end, get your purple box and get the same stuff you get every other time. Limited to one a day (per character, yes, but most people aren't going to suffer through random BGs on dozens of character) for a fraction of a percent of a chance to get the motifs you might be missing. Maybe make the drop rate double or something during BG event weekends.