Dirt_Rooster wrote: »I think it's funny how attached people are to the meta in this game. Magplar is possibly in it's strongest state since launch and no one can see it. I'm doing constant 1v10s in no CP. I feel invincible and haven't died to a 1v1 in months.
What I'm mainly referring to when I say it's funny... Is when people come to me asking for advice after getting laid out. Once I tell them, they laugh at me, call me a noob, and in the same breath say magplar sucks right now. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Joy_Division wrote: »Dirt_Rooster wrote: »I think it's funny how attached people are to the meta in this game. Magplar is possibly in it's strongest state since launch and no one can see it. I'm doing constant 1v10s in no CP. I feel invincible and haven't died to a 1v1 in months.
What I'm mainly referring to when I say it's funny... Is when people come to me asking for advice after getting laid out. Once I tell them, they laugh at me, call me a noob, and in the same breath say magplar sucks right now. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
No one can so it because you're describing a phantom.
Best it's ever been? Lol; two patches ago saw 4 nerfs and no buffs so your statement is objectively false.
It's not that we are attached to a meta. It's that Templars are no longer the class we feel in love with years ago and now have just dumb mechanics like needed 4 consecutive hits for a burning light proc or not being able to use breath of life to heal an "ally".
Can i go on no CP and pounce less experienced players using proc sets (as oppsed to actaully being a templar)? Yeah, but that's because I've played since launch, not due to being a Templar. And I can do that more efficiently as a Warden so what's the point?
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
What are those screenshots supposed to prove exactly? There are individuals on the opposing teams that have managed to die 17 (SEVENTEEN) times in under 10 minutes.... I wouldn't think that's even possible
edit: on topic - Vate + BRP destro + proccset (choose your flavor of extra cheese) of choice works well on any mag class, esp ones dealing most of their damage in melee-ish range.
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »I think it's funny how attached people are to the meta in this game. Magplar is possibly in it's strongest state since launch and no one can see it. I'm doing constant 1v10s in no CP. I feel invincible and haven't died to a 1v1 in months.
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
https://imgur.com/3aIV6bu
https://imgur.com/H6IcLHP
Like I said, any class can do that.
Joy_Division wrote: »Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
https://imgur.com/3aIV6bu
https://imgur.com/H6IcLHP
Like I said, any class can do that.
at the 70 - 0 - 2.
Dirt_Rooster wrote: »Saying magplar is in a worse place now due to nerfs is irrelevant. Magplar wasn't the only thing that was changed, the whole meta shifts every patch. Whether you want to change your build and playstyle to counter the vast majority of players instead of simply comparing old magplar to new is up to you. Nerfs or not, magplar is in a better place now due to how other players have changed.
https://imgur.com/a/DGVvdPl
Ariades_swe wrote: »Ariades_swe wrote: »I love malacath even in light but I'm built for it.
I tried out a 1.8 critdamage modifier build vs my friends 3400 critresistance dk with over 30k resistances and my jabs crit him for 1170 crit while in malacath each sweep channel hit him for 1135, 100 percent of the time.
You need at least over 40 percent critchance and over a 1.9 critdamage modifier to be on par with a malacath build if opponent got a 3500ish critresistance.
This is fairly easy to get as a templar.
Factor in procsets and malacath is op even in cp.
Interesssssting....very interessssssting!!! 🤤
May I ask what gear mix you are using?
Malubeth/Grothdarr/Engine guardian
Frontbar:
5pc overwhelming with charged lightningstaff and disease enchant. (With charged trait u will have perma minor defile and vulnerability on target cause of disease enchant and overwhelming proc).
4 pc warlock
Malacath ring
Full spelldamage glyphs and apprentice mundus.
Backbar
4 pc Overhelming
5 pc Warlock (Best sustain set in the game after buff)
Ariades_swe wrote: »Ariades_swe wrote: »I love malacath even in light but I'm built for it.
I tried out a 1.8 critdamage modifier build vs my friends 3400 critresistance dk with over 30k resistances and my jabs crit him for 1170 crit while in malacath each sweep channel hit him for 1135, 100 percent of the time.
You need at least over 40 percent critchance and over a 1.9 critdamage modifier to be on par with a malacath build if opponent got a 3500ish critresistance.
This is fairly easy to get as a templar.
Factor in procsets and malacath is op even in cp.
Interesssssting....very interessssssting!!! 🤤
May I ask what gear mix you are using?
Malubeth/Grothdarr/Engine guardian
Frontbar:
5pc overwhelming with charged lightningstaff and disease enchant. (With charged trait u will have perma minor defile and vulnerability on target cause of disease enchant and overwhelming proc).
4 pc warlock
Malacath ring
Full spelldamage glyphs and apprentice mundus.
Backbar
4 pc Overhelming
5 pc Warlock (Best sustain set in the game after buff)
What skills are u using to proc enchant? Just heavy? I’m doing something similar but with a vateshran lightning
Ariades_swe wrote: »Ariades_swe wrote: »I love malacath even in light but I'm built for it.
I tried out a 1.8 critdamage modifier build vs my friends 3400 critresistance dk with over 30k resistances and my jabs crit him for 1170 crit while in malacath each sweep channel hit him for 1135, 100 percent of the time.
You need at least over 40 percent critchance and over a 1.9 critdamage modifier to be on par with a malacath build if opponent got a 3500ish critresistance.
This is fairly easy to get as a templar.
Factor in procsets and malacath is op even in cp.
Interesssssting....very interessssssting!!! 🤤
May I ask what gear mix you are using?
Malubeth/Grothdarr/Engine guardian
Frontbar:
5pc overwhelming with charged lightningstaff and disease enchant. (With charged trait u will have perma minor defile and vulnerability on target cause of disease enchant and overwhelming proc).
4 pc warlock
Malacath ring
Full spelldamage glyphs and apprentice mundus.
Backbar
4 pc Overhelming
5 pc Warlock (Best sustain set in the game after buff)
What skills are u using to proc enchant? Just heavy? I’m doing something similar but with a vateshran lightning
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
And what templar unique skills do you use? For fun lets debate that the same build is better with other classes. Rationalize why it isnt.
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
And what templar unique skills do you use? For fun lets debate that the same build is better with other classes. Rationalize why it isnt.
Front bar
Jabs, Degen, power of the light, toppling, Radiant destruction, crescent sweep
Back bar
Rune, ritual, rapid regeneration, race against time, honour the dead, life giver.
Might well be better on other classes, however magplar is and will remain my main so got try make it work to some degree.
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
And what templar unique skills do you use? For fun lets debate that the same build is better with other classes. Rationalize why it isnt.
Front bar
Jabs, Degen, power of the light, toppling, Radiant destruction, crescent sweep
Back bar
Rune, ritual, rapid regeneration, race against time, honour the dead, life giver.
Might well be better on other classes, however magplar is and will remain my main so got try make it work to some degree.
No need to delve in too much bcz thats alot of templar stuff. So that kinda answers that.
Just wondering do you use sweeps or jabs? Not trying to nitpick bcz you also listed power of the light too instead of purifying light. Not sure if your using a hybrid or just a different build. If its just a typo im not trying to nitpick but i am genuinely interested ATM
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
The only way I have found magplar to be somewhat playable this patch is by completely changing my playstyle with it..gone is the sword and board block casting honour the dead and in is a much more mobile resto wielding plar..
No more do I get stuck on the back bar struggling to get on the offensive and instead can apply more pressure myself.
Imo the block playstyle is old hat this patch, the dots and procs will eat through your stam each time you try to block them. I've found playing resto with rapid regeneration and life giver for the back bar ult alongside 3- 4 well fitted and 20% dodge roll reduction in cp, with race against time allows for a much more versatile and mobile magplar experience which is better than I've played before. I've changed to argonian and use engine guardian and lich or the sustain and use stuns and malacth for the damage playing in heavy.
One of the best plar builds I've put together in long time.
Imo the block playstyle has been old news for a looooong time, if you play Templar aggressively, you'll have a better time with everything (sustain, resource management etc;) as you'll be forcing that backbar block playstyle on other people.