It's good enough allowing teammates to trade.

Thats a question not easy to answer.

The thing is that everyone should do the content to get the gear, but content like vMA isnt nicely integrated so its a problem. Also we have loot runs that already go towards trading random gear. So logically being able to sell it wouldnt make much difference. Its hard to tell how the game would exactly change if this was possible today. It would at least require a propper analysis.

I do not mind this option to be implemented and it might even make me happy. But if they add this, one can get the equipment they want from other players without running the content on their own, which might lead them not to buy the content.
I believe for this reason we will not get this in the future.

Contaminate wrote: »

If you want the gear, prove you can even make use of it. Clear the content yourself. It’s already tradable within your group.

@Contaminate But what about those people who don’t have 11 other friends to run a dungeon with? This has nothing to do with people proving themselves because what if they don’t want to grind it for hours and hours. And yes I know it’s tradable with group members but what if another person didn’t run the dungeon with you and you wanted to give them armor.

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Oh boy, here we go again. This was possible at launch, and you know what? People complained about players having BiS builds without ever having run a single dungeon.

You want the gear? Do the content. Normals are easy, and unless you're in a score pushing group you don't need perfected.

Imagine that next patch they make the new BiS set drop from rewards of the worthy. And that for a reason completly absurd, they make them Bind on pickup. That’s how PVPers feel about the current system.

You want the gear? Play a game mode you loathe for a couple of days. For every toon you have. You would have the right to be pissed.

The only exception to that is sets from solo arenas, because you can’t be carried in them. It’s the only real skillcheck. They never should have made maelstrom weapons drop from nMA.

Edit: As others pointed out, it became BoP when you had to spend money to acquire said sets through subscription or dlc. So it’s not an absurd reason, it’s much worse. It’s greed. So the only way you would have BoP BiS sets only acquirable from pvp is if they would create a new pvp mode locked behind a new chapter.

It doesn't matter in the long run. When Zaans hits the golden noone will be able to tell how you acquired it.

Would be nice to have something else to do with my legendary perfected jewelery than just deconstructing them.

Dungeons Yes

Trials No

My belief is that what you want to do and improve at in game should be reflected in what you do in game. You should get better at trials by doing trials. You should get better at crafting by doing crafting. You should get better at pvp by pvp. If not directly from it then by being able to acquire things you need to improve at it by buying it with resources you get from doing what you want to play and improve at.

Trials gear is fine because it generally is only of benefit to at least pve players. Yes it helps in dungeons, at least that is the same type of gameplay.

Dungeon sets however are designed to be used by all players. Not just players that want to do dungeons and improve at doing them.

Pvp sets, at least most of them, are also not specifically designed for pvp use. They can be of benefit to pve players, some are even useful to crafter and farmers. They are all bind on equip. Pve players that want to use these sets never have to set foot in pvp. So why should pvp players have to set foot in a dungeon to get sets that benefit them?

The golden is another problem for dungeons gear being bind on pick up. Dungeons gear again is designed for all players but gold dungeon jewelry is only obtainable from the golden (Outside of upgrading which is insane). The preferred method of purchasing from the golden is ap. So to purchase from the golden at least the preferred way, forces players that have no interest in pvp to pvp. However there is at least the option to buy it with gold. Pvp players dont have the option to get dungeon gear through any means but farming the dungeon.

Well you can for 2 hours and with the next patch you can make it yourself as long as you have collected the item you want at some point

Trading with the group is a good middle ground to handle this in my opinion. I mean, where do you need the dungeon and trial gear if you’re not even doing those? Overland doesn’t really require fancy gear and you can also enter the normal dungeons and trials with the easily acquirable gear and perform well enough to collect the gear you want. Yes, there is the PVP scene, but if someone there really really despises doing PVE for the gear, they always have the option to craft or pick gear which can be purchased with AP.

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Imagine someone in a run getting a very rare yet much needed piece of gear. We'll randomly use a Lokke dagger, for example.

Player 1 gets that drop and someone else in the run badly needs it. It's the last piece they need. Because it's so stupidly rare, the prices on the traders are absurd. Player 1 decides that, instead of giving it to one of the people that needed it, he decides to put it on a trader for 5 million.

Player 1 wouldn't even have been able to complete the trial without the other people, much less get this item which only drops from the last boss.

This is a good point...and almost a justification, what it doesn't take into account though is the fact that Player 1 in this instance should have the CHOICE to sell it for 5 million on a guild trader if he so wishes, it is after all an absurdly rare drop in theory and he should be well compensated for his time spent. What you are effectively voting for here is to take away his free choice and make his ultra-rare drop virtually worthless unless someone else int he group is willing to pay something for it.

Now, of all people who play this game, I often don't even bother to decon overland gear, I just sell it to a vendor...but the option is there for me to actually list the stuff on a guild trader if I so chose. I completed that content, I should have the option to sell the spoils of war to other players...why are dungeons and trials different?