My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
Seriously. Every time I see a thread complaining about shields, it makes me think someone necro'd a post from like 2018.Atherakhia wrote: »We're literally playing Elder Stamina Online and we're trying to advocate for mag nerfs. Come on guys...
I virtually never encounter shields in BGs, and Magicka classes in general are much easier to kill than their stamina counterparts. Some of the people complaining about shields should start up a Magicka character, and play against decent-or-better opponents with proper builds and see just how much those "OP" shields help them survive. Especially in no-CP.
Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
mikey_reach wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
Yeah i dont think he realized that a sorc can burst a stamblade a lot faster than a nightblade that can two shot or “delete under 5 secs” if the sorc allows it.
2020 actually where its easier to kill a nightblade. Nightblades got their cloak nerfed several times, they got cast times on their skills they no longer have minor beserker and surprise attack no longer has major fracture. If i can kill them on my sorc when they used to heal better be faster and hit harder its certainly not a problem now.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
Yeah i dont think he realized that a sorc can burst a stamblade a lot faster than a nightblade that can two shot or “delete under 5 secs” if the sorc allows it.
You are still playing in 2015 or something ?
Magsorc on the other hand which is already incredibly strong and in a good position has evaded the nerf again thanks to their healing option being double wards.
LightYagami wrote: »Magsorc on the other hand which is already incredibly strong and in a good position has evaded the nerf again thanks to their healing option being double wards.
Sorcerers are always amazing in PvP. Many of their skills have multiple functions with low cost, for example steak and lightning form. They also have permanent pets while they can hide far behind the pets and do decent amount of damage.
Highly mobile, permanent pet, deadly in both long and melee ranges, big ward, sustain passives...
Can't really think of any major weaknesses of sorceres in PvP...
Recapitated wrote: »LightYagami wrote: »Magsorc on the other hand which is already incredibly strong and in a good position has evaded the nerf again thanks to their healing option being double wards.
Sorcerers are always amazing in PvP. Many of their skills have multiple functions with low cost, for example steak and lightning form. They also have permanent pets while they can hide far behind the pets and do decent amount of damage.
Highly mobile, permanent pet, deadly in both long and melee ranges, big ward, sustain passives...
Can't really think of any major weaknesses of sorceres in PvP...
Magsorc becomes instantly worse in tight spaces, compare Foyada Quarry to the cropped Istirus Outpost map.
LightYagami wrote: »Recapitated wrote: »LightYagami wrote: »Magsorc on the other hand which is already incredibly strong and in a good position has evaded the nerf again thanks to their healing option being double wards.
Sorcerers are always amazing in PvP. Many of their skills have multiple functions with low cost, for example steak and lightning form. They also have permanent pets while they can hide far behind the pets and do decent amount of damage.
Highly mobile, permanent pet, deadly in both long and melee ranges, big ward, sustain passives...
Can't really think of any major weaknesses of sorceres in PvP...
Magsorc becomes instantly worse in tight spaces, compare Foyada Quarry to the cropped Istirus Outpost map.
At least they can streak. Think of most other classes can't even leave tight spaces.
Get surrounded by enemies? Streak.
Want to stun enemies? Streak.
Want a gap closer? Streak.
Want to get c.c. immunity? Streak.
SRASinister wrote: »I'm sorry but if you're getting burst down by a sorc that fast in 2020 then you need to change your build or learn how to block.
mikey_reach wrote: »2020 actually where its easier to kill a nightblade. Nightblades got their cloak nerfed several times, they got cast times on their skills they no longer have minor beserker and surprise attack no longer has major fracture. If i can kill them on my sorc when they used to heal better be faster and hit harder its certainly not a problem now.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
Yeah i dont think he realized that a sorc can burst a stamblade a lot faster than a nightblade that can two shot or “delete under 5 secs” if the sorc allows it.
You are still playing in 2015 or something ?
Joy_Division wrote: »For one second let's suppose the OP's premise is right that wards are much more effective/efficient than healing.
How exactly does nerfing them and turning the sorcerer into a craptastic magikca based class - just like every other magicka spec - improve the game? In case you hadn't noticed, because ZOS has basically gutted anything interesting that a class can do, stamina specs have always been competitive and usually somewhere between meta and really strong because:
- No matter what ZOS does to our classes, they have options to 2 weapons with very good PvP oriented abilities (from which they shift between duel wield and 2H depending on what ZOS nerfs) and these skills hit ridiculously hard because ZOS keeps putting in ways to increase weapon damage. By comparison the destruction staff is an ok PvE weapon.
- No matter how much ZOS butchers old magicka skills that use to do multiple things like heal and damage, Stamina can always slot a very good heal in Vigor that scales on that ridiculously high weapon damage and not even be tied to a bad weapon like a resto staff.
- The magicka burst ultimate is the most telegraphed attack in the history of the game and somehow costs 200 ultimate. Dawnbreaker may have a stupid cast time, but it still hits hard, and costs a lot less.
- No matter how much ZOS nerfs the crap out of skills and healing, which is magicka's primary way of defending itself, stamina users by default will always be faster and will always be able to dodge more, which will forever work well at damage mitigation/avoidance no matter what questionable decisions the dev teams makes.
- Out of the 1,476,956,429 overpowered proc sets that have ever been in eso, at least 85% of those have been stamina based.
All of these mean that stamina players have a certain immunity to ZOS's nerfs because there are good options outside their over-nerfed classes.
I only recently started playing again because I got tired that ZOS had adopted the OP's approach of nerf anything that is either remotely interesting or effective. The number of magplars, magicka DKs, Mag wardens, and Mag necros I've encountered and fought that wasn't in a group or zerg-surfing has been zero. None. Nada. Zilch. I can't even tell what stamina classes I am fighting any more because they all basically are either Dizzy - Executioner spam or are Chernobyl inspired horrors that ooze unavoidable multiple poison procs that are far stronger than any class ability in the game. Unless it's a Sorc running Hurricane, I legit don't even know the classes these people run. The only reprieve I get from fighting proc sets is the only single viable magicka spec left - the sorcerer. And now you want to ruin that when ZOS has already in multiple patches nerfed the shields and their mechanics.
We're to the point where class abilities should not be compared to each other, rather should be compared to the ridiculously strong proc sets that have totally overshadowed anything a class can do. There isn't a class ability in the game that is, to use a word I hate, "overperforming" from this perspective. Nothing.
The interesting solution to the "problem" the OP identified in shields being too efficient/effective in relation to healing/alternative means classes have to defend themselves (lol, what are those? ZoS took them all away years ago) is not to ruin the sole remaining spec that actually relies on class abilities, but to improve the non shield/ward ways that people vainly attempt to use to defend themselves
PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »2020 actually where its easier to kill a nightblade. Nightblades got their cloak nerfed several times, they got cast times on their skills they no longer have minor beserker and surprise attack no longer has major fracture. If i can kill them on my sorc when they used to heal better be faster and hit harder its certainly not a problem now.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Assumptions aren’t good arguments its actually one of the most common mistakes humans make.PhoenixGrey wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »My favorite part of this nerf sorc post is thinking they run between 25-30k health effectively. Try 20-25K. And a 15K shield, lol. Maybe before health scaling. 15K shield is not something that is actually realistic. Try 9K. And that 9K is if you are stacking mag to 50K+ with passive mag boosting skills like inner light and bound aegis, boosting fully into Bastion, and health with cyrodil buff is around 22-24K depending on enchants. So, 8-9K shield, but you have to basically go all out into unsustainable levels of min/max on max mag.
Now, I know it, we all know it, "But shield stacking!"
Hardened Ward Cost after passives: 3655
Dampen Magic Cost after passives: 3884
So to stack these two shields, you would need to spend 7,539 magicka. And they last 6 seconds. And, since they can now be crit on, that 8-9K shield per stack is gone in a few seconds. A good sorc isn't going to sheild stack, because it is unsustainable, and spending 7.5K every few seconds to keep shields up is not viable to win a fight. If you can't burst them down and wear out their magicka pool when they get into stacking mode, you burst is just bad. And if you are fighting a 1 shield sorc and you can't burst an 8-9K critable shield, then they deserve to beat you.
Idk shield stacking is viable just go full well fitted and torc of tonal consistency and you will shield stack just fine. Also you dont need bound aegis or inner light to reach 9k hardened i do it just fine without those skills.
If shield stacking is viable on your build you hit like a wet doodle my surprise attack spam will delete you under 5 seconds
You can try full damage setup on any mag toons and it hits like wet doodle compared to its stam counterpart.
The shield size and mag regen mean nothing unless you just want to fight other mag toons
You obviously aren’t fighting any magica builds 1v1, magplar which is considered to be one of the weakest classes will maul just about anything else 1v1
Yeah i dont think he realized that a sorc can burst a stamblade a lot faster than a nightblade that can two shot or “delete under 5 secs” if the sorc allows it.
You are still playing in 2015 or something ?
If you actually think your nightblade weaker than sorc, its probably a potato
Shields these days are incredibly weak. I only see magsorc, magblade, and the occasional magden use them. Most people haven't had a problem deleting shield users in quite a few patches now.