Reasons to leave:
1) low CP guys
2) low DPS guys
3) group not skip mechanics, if its possible
4) group is killing every single monster, instead of skip trash
5) real healer instead of 3dds run

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Any time that I've ever pugged a dungeon on any support role, the dps are usually just terrible.

You've got one guy spamming light attacks with a bow and occasionally cloaking/ambushing in on the boss. Another time, one was running a 2h and an ice staff that kept pulling aggro, so we just left him dead. Not to mention the time where I had to tank around 13 (literally) daedroths on banished 2, and eventually just left the group after dying from zero resources.

I stick with running with guildies. I haven't pugged in a year at least. There's just so many people who don't know how to play the game/fulfill their role, and I low-key don't have the patience anymore.

13 , think my record is 10, the problem here was that the DD thought they could not kill any daedroths so if I dropped or lost some the DD would run around in circles until I grabbed them again, had we wiped I would explained that if i released daedroths they should run to the boss so they died in AoE, now that was an interesting fight. Was bubbled 4--5 times and did not see any other gotten bubbled.

And that is another benefit of guild groups, you can use discord. I would have shouted out mechanics or agree on stuff like pulling large groups of trash.

I mostly use the PUG finder on my man Templar hybrid tank. Maybe 30-40% of the time I do the same dps as the "dps" though. Maybe it's because I've been playing since beta but running the same dungeons over and over gets reeeealllyy boring If they take too long due tog low dps

Pauwer wrote: »

All the above yes. I'm crap tank cause: i die because i'm pinned down and someone should interrupt, because people stay in red cirles, because we can't kill the first mob on vet, cause there is no dps, because "i have no self heals" when i slot only taunt and and almost all other skills are healing skills, and i have not died or taken much damage at all, but still no self heals, because no one knows mechs and die from 1-shots, because lord knows what. I once took the pinion as a tank on wgt and the healer said i should unistall the game. All kinds if stuff yesh.

lol OMG you need a hug mate.
You've been through enough, I can see the Tank PTSD frustration in this post XD

*I wish I had friends that ran dungeons, because if I need keys or dungeon gear*

There's no other option

A reply from someone here, yap, I wish I had friends playing this too. I still like to run dungeons but on my own only. The ones I can finish only though. Tank main of course.

All of the above, maybe less so fake healer - I can keep myself up quite happily in base game dungeons and most classes have pretty good self heals. Pugged on my Dk tank a while back; swore I'd never do it again and converted him to dps / pvp. Levelled a warden tank recently and yes, I'm an idiot and figured I'd pug a few to finish his undaunted off. Oh dear god. I think I managed 3 dungeons before I said never again. Dps running ahead and pulling stuff - and then dying and complaining that I wasn't tanking the adds. Incredibly slow ttk on trash packs and inadequate dps on bosses, to the point the final group couldn't even finish BC2. Zero knowledge of mechanics - do people really not get they need to hit the pillars in WS2? -and zero communication for the most part. It's just not fun. In the end, just grabbed some guildies and we knocked out a couple of no death speed runs on last night's pledges for the achievements. Gave me enough to finish undaunted and never have to tank a pug again.

Normals are a different matter. All my toons are set up to tank and I used to run the daily RND on each for the xp. I don't expect that much from lowbie groups - maybe 15k between the 2 dps and healer, and a healer with a class heal - and build accordingly. They're sometimes a little slow but it's all manageable and usually fun.

Because the dungeon finder has no way to consider what kind of game play. So you get a rock star trying to practice speedrunning it, someone who can probably solo it and just wants the undaunted quickly or to practice for vet, someone who wants to do the quest this time and a newb. All this ends in disaster because nobody gets what they want.

When I'm tanking I do it on normals with guild people for fun and laughs. We do it at whatever rate we feel like, we usually kill all the trash, we stop and do the storylines, sometimes we even open all the barrels and stock up on provisioning stuff and whatever.

If I queue in the dungeon finder the odds are rather against getting a group like that.

Because there's no point in dealing with inconsiderate players with no dps when you can just whisper someone from your friends list or ask in guilds and actually have fun.
Not saying that everyone in group finder is terrible, but there's enough terrible players to make it not worth it.

I've encountered most of the scenarios on the list, the most common being #1, #2, #4, and #6. I only do vet dungeons if most of the group are friends/guildmates.

The last time I pugged with my tank it was helping someone with depths of malatar DLC. It was the worst two hours of my life as I repeatedly got dawnbreakered around by 12+ adds on the orb boss while trying to res my allies who died across the room. We never finished.

That's basically why I no longer pug tank. As DPS I can carry, as healer I can ensure DPS stay alive, but as neither all I can do is sit and watch the chaos unfold.

As someone who has started to tank regularly DPS is king in ESO you can be the best tank that ever lived in ESO but if you have non existent "dps" your not getting through anything and as many have said above your at the mercy of the group.

pugged a Vet Banished Cell 2 the other day had a fake healer and non existent dps we made it to Rilis XII and it was horrible i ended up tanking 6 or 7 Deadroths be4 we wiped we kicked out the 440 CP dps and got another dps an 810 who was just as bad or worse than the 440 again I stacked the Deadroths on boss since even with great dps you'll need to kill 2 or 3 deadroths just so you don't get overwhelmed and ended up the same way me and fake healer left. Me and my friend got on our DPS characters and blazed through the dungeon with some bad randos in zone chat.

I don't have time to spare on low dps people. If the team takes more than 40 second to a minute killing the first boss, I'm out. But I usually don't pug vet dungeons on my tank, only if I have to.